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38241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin fails.. on: January 09, 2015, 04:46:42 PM
The U.S. government didn't invent Bitcoin. They don't have the knowledge of how to hack or corrupt it. At least not in the coding. The thing that they excel at is using Bitcoin. Bitcoin provides a perfect means for some in government to covertly move funds all over the world with reasonable anonymity. They love Bitcoin. They wouldn't destroy it even if they could.

Smiley
38242  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: January 09, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
Muslims hate other people because they are afraid of what other Muslims will do to them if they don't. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.msg10093386#msg10093386.

Smiley
38243  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: January 09, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
The violence in the Quran. From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
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The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."  

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"  

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

There is more. Go to the link http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

Smiley
38244  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin fails.. on: January 09, 2015, 04:20:36 PM
Bitcoin is based on technology built over decades of technological advancement by thousands of people. Bitcoin isn't simply Satoshi and the Devs. Bitcoin is the whole dedicated system of electronics, computers, telecommunications, the electrical grid, and everything else that upholds the "system," including the need and greed of the people.

All nations fall. All systems crash. Bitcoin will fail, but it won't happen easily.

Smiley
38245  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have AIDS? on: January 09, 2015, 04:15:40 PM
High hash needs to be paid for.
Bitcoin has good hash but keeps going down because that hash needs to be paid.
When you buy gold you do not pay a constant tax to the miners after initial purchase.
Bitcoin is different. Here you pay after purchase a tax to miners of 10% of its value this year.

Can it be cured with speeding up blocktimes or does it need to fork to faster rewarddecrease?
Obviously satoshi was afraid of attackers. He did not think of a whole army of altcoins which could jump in and back it up.
He did not think of the possibility to share hash with other coins.
What sense does a mega-high hashrate make when it is this expensive and makes the coin useless to store value?
Are the fears which would make such high and expensive hashrate necessary still justified in 2015?

Here is my question:
Does Bitcoin have aids? Can it be cured? How?

It can be cured just like it is being cured. Stop using Bitcoin until the miners learn to live off what they get. Supply and demand. If people stop using Bitcoin, miners will stop mining, small folk will get into mining the old way because the difficulty will fall, and things will be like they used to be. Then it will start all over again.

Does Bitcoin have AIDS? No. Only BANDAIDS, until it heals itself.

Smiley
38246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are cryptocurrencies the future? on: January 09, 2015, 04:11:07 PM
LOL, I am mentally paraphrasing that  to "Just a big fuckoff carrot to get useful work out of shiftless crackers."

Glad you liked it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916556.msg10092840#msg10092840

 Cheesy
38247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Jesus ministry not to preach from American soil on: January 09, 2015, 04:04:02 PM
Have you all seen this: http://www.coindesk.com/roger-ver-denied-us-visa-attend-miami-bitcoin-conference/

Why would the government do this other than to mess with him? Is it because of his connection to Bitcoin or because he renounced his citizenship? If you renounce your citizenship you can't go to the U.S. anymore? I suggest we all mail a cup of fresh urine to the U.S. senate in protest with a label that says, "piss off".

When you look at the laws regarding citizenship in the United States, you are only a citizen if one of three things fits your circumstances. These are:
1. You were born in the United States;
2. You were naturalized;
3. You said you are a citizen but you lied, and government accepted your lie.

That's about it. Maybe none of us are citizens. Maybe not even residents. Certainly not in our capacities as human beings. Maybe we as humans are only domiciled here.

There is question as to whether or not you were born in the United States, even if you were. Why? Simply because there are several definitions of the term "United States." The term is ambiguous, and you probably didn't understand - and don't understand now - the legalease (legal meanings of) regarding which "United States" you were talking about when you renounced your citizenship. Ambiguity is not allowed in law. Besides this, the definition that you would fall under when you were born is not the definition that applies to you when you are entering the country, and it is not the definition that you renounced when you renounced your citizenship.

In other words, when you present a passport or other documentation to port authorities, and they say, "This looks like you." And then they ask you, "Is this you?" What is your answer? You say, "Yes, it's me." What you have just done is turned yourself into a piece of paper, a passport, or some other documentation. And, since you are still a human being, the word "you" when they ask, "Is this you," is plural, meaning both you, the human, and you, the documentation.

Your answer should have been, "That is not me. I am a man/woman. As a man/woman born in the United States, I claim right of entry." Then, if they don't let you enter, you can file suit on the individual in his/her private capacity, who wouldn't let you enter.

Take a look at the info in the links listed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916456.msg10079836#msg10079836, and see that government's determination of illegality about anything doesn't apply to you except if you are in government, or if you want it to. It becomes applicable to you when you say, "Yes, that's me," regarding some government documentation.

In particular, watch the 10 videos at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D.

Smiley
38248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are cryptocurrencies the future? on: January 09, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
One of the major reasons that cryptocurrencies are the future is, the offer of treasure provided to hackers.

Hackers are people who do hacking for a reason or purpose. Some of them are bored. Some of them are young punks who want to test and improve their computer skills. Some of them are paid to hack. Others are paid computer programmers who use hacking to sharpen their programming skills. And I'm sure there are loads of other reasons.

In almost all of the above cases, hackers are basically looking for some form of "pay." I mean, if you were a hacker who fit into one of the above examples, wouldn't you be more inclined to do a good job of hacking if you knew that there was the promise of treasure, if only you could do your hacking well enough?

Cryptocurrencies are the future because of the promise of treasure to the hackers. Just look at all those bitcoins that could be stolen if only the blockchain or personal computers could be systematically hacked.

The blockchain encryption is very strong. Computer firewall encryption is very strong. They are strong, like the walls of a bank vault that houses treasure - money, gold, silver, bonds, etc.  If only one could breach those walls, think of the possibilities. Yet unlike a bank vault, there is tremendous freedom. There aren't many armed guards. The firewall guards are strong, but they are not armed. Properly done, if you can hack and get away, you live to hack another day... from elsewhere.

Because the blockchain and firewalls are so strong, hackers are refining all kinds of hacking methods, even inventing new machinery and math methods, just so they can hack and steal. Many of the hackers don't realize what a job they have ahead of themselves. Rather, they feel lucky. So they go about their hacking attempts with ever-renewed vigor.

Because of all of the above, many new developments will come about in the areas of computer and programming technology. Even mathematics itself may be extended by some obscure hacker, who is simply trying to grab as many bitcoins out of the blockchain and firewall "bank vaults" as he/she can get away with. Because of the strength of the encryption, this whole hacking-caused advancement of math and computer technology will go on well into the future.

Smiley
38249  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama wants 2 FREE years of Community college for all students! on: January 09, 2015, 10:25:10 AM
Can we, also, apply it to people who went to college years ago? so that they get some of their loans paid off, or so that they get money back if it is all paid off?

For example, if great great grandpa went to college for 4 years, starting in 1936, can his estate get 2 years of his student loans back? It wouldn't be much. Things were a lot less expensive back then.

Smiley
38250  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Arizona is Keeping the World Free! on: January 09, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
"John Sidney McCain III is the senior United States Senator from Arizona"
^^^Yes!
Nothing quite cries FREEDOM, like knowing John McWar is your Senator.

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Arizona is a gun State. The people can have guns....

Pot is still illegal in AZ, and your call that freedom?   Tongue

<Back on topic>
Glad to hear that some important freedoms are legal in AZ.

Arizona manufactures Apache war helicopters.

Gun strength in Arizona helps to maintain freedom strength in any of the States that decide they want pot freedom.

Take a look at the info in the links listed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916456.msg10079836#msg10079836, and see that government's determination of illegality about anything doesn't apply to you except if you are in government, or if you want it to. In particular, watch the 10 videos at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D.

Smiley
38251  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return on your BTC on: January 09, 2015, 09:03:20 AM
If he doesn't get many players, he could call it "WeaklyPonzi."    Cheesy
38252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: January 09, 2015, 03:34:02 AM
As far as I understood this forum is supposed to be about topics that had to do with bitcoins.

All religions are the opium of the people, christianity is no different from Islam, they all got big problems and you're just deciding to look for the bad on Islam.
Have you ever considered all those pederast priests? All the crusades and wars fought because of Christianity? all the radicals and religious fanatics?
In the bible god killed around more than 24 million people, and don't get me started on how much atrocities were on the old testament.
I will enlighten you with the truth: you only see Islam as an extremely evil thing BECAUSE the media, society all around you, and other sources have led you to believe that. Of course Christians are all perfect fellas in your mind, most redneck Americans believe all that crap.





Did you ever have a little fish bowl with some goldfish or something in it? Perhaps you had gerbils. Who had the authority for them? You or they? I mean, if one of them said, Screw that guy who put us in the fish bowl and sees to it that we are fed everyday, would you even care?

God cares. You are ignorant. He is the Boss. If He wants to stop feeding you for a few days, He is the Boss. Like it or not, nobody orders Him around.

If I were you, I wouldn't be so cocky as I lived my simple little life, completely in His view, and under His control.

Smiley
38253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Arizona is Keeping the World Free! on: January 09, 2015, 02:20:07 AM
From Daniel in the Old Testament:
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Daniel replied, “No wise man, enchanter, magician or diviner can explain to the king the mystery he has asked about, but there is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in days to come. Your dream and the visions that passed through your mind as you lay on your bed are these:

“As you were lying there, O king, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have greater wisdom than other living men, but so that you, O king, may know the interpretation and that you may understand what went through your mind.

“You looked, O king, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

“This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; in your hands he has placed mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds of the air. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

“After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

“The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and the interpretation is trustworthy.”

Smiley
38254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Arizona is Keeping the World Free! on: January 09, 2015, 01:28:54 AM
. . .

Quote from: Various, Wikipedia link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy#Kant_on_anarchy
Kant on anarchy

The German philosopher Immanuel Kant treated anarchy in his Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View as consisting of "Law and Freedom without Force". Thus, for Kant, anarchy falls short of being a true civil state because the law is only an "empty recommendation" if force is not included to make this law efficacious. For there to be such a state, force must be included while law and freedom are maintained, a state which Kant calls republic.[3][4]

As summary Kant named four kinds of government:
1. Law and freedom without force (anarchy).
2. Law and force without freedom (despotism).
3. Force without freedom and law (barbarism).
4. Force with freedom and law (republic).
(Red colorization mine.)

Note the balance which, by Kant's definitions above, Great Empire of Earth, an imperial anarchist despotism, strikes.

If the nation of Israel had not asked for the detailed laws that they asked for at the time that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, there would have been a government installed that would have been the absolute best.

1. Freedom in every way except for one person harming another or damaging his property.
2. Judges that did one thing, judge the harm/damage lawsuits.
3. A method for removing judges for corruption.

The only other thing that would have been added would have been methods to honor God.

Because the people asked for it (though they didn't really understand what they were asking for), God gave them the detailed laws that He did. They received top-notch laws, the best that there are. And these laws were even adapted to their standards of living in many ways.

The four you have referenced don't really cover this form.

Smiley

That would have been force constrained by freedom and law (a republic). What they asked for was law and force that didn't allow for the freedom I made reference to elsewhere (a despotism).

When you consider the constraints on everything according to the laws of nature, the freedom before they asked for the detailed laws would have been much better for them. If they had not asked for those detailed laws, Israel may not have fallen as a nation ever. It might have wound up being the ruling world nation today. Things would have been different.

Smiley
38255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Psychiatrists Now Say Non-Conformity is a Mental Illness: Only the Sheeple are ' on: January 09, 2015, 01:22:38 AM
. . .

Quote from: Galileo Galilei link=http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~kvikram/htmls/read/maths.htm
Mathematics is the language with which God wrote the Universe.

Mathematics is a language of man... one that he uses to attempt to describe the universe.

Smiley

Language is an adaptation of culture—one that man uses to attempt to describe mathematics.

I always wondered why they couldn't, for example, find the answer to pi.   Wink
38256  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Arizona is Keeping the World Free! on: January 09, 2015, 01:21:15 AM

Watch for nuking of Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix doesn't really supply anything that can't be supplied elsewhere in the U.S.  Even the Apache helicopters could be assembled elsewhere. If they nuked Phoenix, not only would they get some test results, they would also remove the strength of the most gun-free State in America. So, they would benefit all around.

I think the US finished nuking its own military a few decades ago. If all Trident sub crews were miraculously cleansed of the possibility of mutiny, look for an evacuation of http://www.luke.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5047 personnel and families in the Phoenix metro area and/or a military coup. Phoenix also has Criminals Unionists in the government and general public that would need to be evacuated too.

Still, it's probably not wise of me to give them any ideas.   Cheesy
38257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Psychiatrists Now Say Non-Conformity is a Mental Illness: Only the Sheeple are ' on: January 09, 2015, 01:13:20 AM

Quote from: Common Expression
Mathematics is the language of the universe.

Mathematics is a language of man... one that he uses to attempt to describe the universe.

Smiley
38258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Arizona is Keeping the World Free! on: January 09, 2015, 01:11:18 AM
. . .

This is the reason why the Power Elite need to move their base of operations to other countries. I mean their technology producing and maintaining base. The U.S. still produces too much of the technology and hardware that they use. If some other country had the ability to support the technology and manufacture of military machines the same way the U.S. does, the Power Elite would cause us to be nuked in a moment. As it is now, they would be cutting off their own supply lines.

Watch for nuking of Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix doesn't really supply anything that can't be supplied elsewhere in the U.S.  Even the Apache helicopters could be assembled elsewhere. If they nuked Phoenix, not only would they get some test results, they would also remove the strength of the most gun-free State in America. So, they would benefit all around.

Smiley

EDIT: And, they would have the benefit of an excuse for martial law around the whole nation... kinda like a big 9/11.

A gilded cage is only useful when it isn't perceived as such. When it is, the gilding is just a needless expense.

Thank you for your confirmation.  Smiley

You don't seem to understand: "the rule of law" (as opposed to, say, "the rule of force") is part of that cage.

All right. I'll admit that I don't know what you are getting at.  Smiley


Quote from: Various, Wikipedia link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy#Kant_on_anarchy
Kant on anarchy

The German philosopher Immanuel Kant treated anarchy in his Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View as consisting of "Law and Freedom without Force". Thus, for Kant, anarchy falls short of being a true civil state because the law is only an "empty recommendation" if force is not included to make this law efficacious. For there to be such a state, force must be included while law and freedom are maintained, a state which Kant calls republic.[3][4]

As summary Kant named four kinds of government:
1. Law and freedom without force (anarchy).
2. Law and force without freedom (despotism).
3. Force without freedom and law (barbarism).
4. Force with freedom and law (republic).
(Red colorization mine.)

If the nation of Israel had not asked for the detailed laws that they asked for at the time that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, there would have been a government installed that would have been the absolute best.

1. Freedom in every way except for one person harming another or damaging his property.
2. Judges that did one thing, judge the harm/damage lawsuits.
3. A method for removing judges for corruption.

The only other thing that would have been added would have been methods to honor God.

Because the people asked for it (though they didn't really understand what they were asking for), God gave them the detailed laws that He did. They received top-notch laws, the best that there are. And these laws were even adapted to their standards of living in many ways.

The four you have referenced don't really cover this form.

Smiley
38259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 12 Dead in Terrorist Attack on French Satire Magazine on: January 09, 2015, 01:01:21 AM

Yeap I was serious "while LOLing". Grin
Also, I'm like this right now:

It says; "Do you want war; Come On!".

ps: I'm not serious about those killings, it's only joke.

Hey, that little guy's cute!   Cheesy
38260  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 12 Dead in Terrorist Attack on French Satire Magazine on: January 09, 2015, 12:52:39 AM
-snip-

The Judeo-Christian religion is the only religion that holds eternal life for people.

Smiley
So what? Hindu people believes "reincarnation".
They believe that they'll come back after death again. Grin

If you want eternal life; your best hope is "scientology" Grin
At least science can offer a "digital brain" and "cybernetic body" etc. Grin

It doesn't have anything to do with what people think. It has to do with what God has set in place.

Smiley

God(s) orders to kill people. So "Let's start a rampage" and kill each other. Grin

Your kind of thinking is the kind of thinking that, if you were serious, might be a bit of prompting for God to do exactly what you say.

Smiley
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