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3841  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the fate of Scammers if bitcoin later becomes a traceable Currency. on: December 13, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
no they arent . there were also people loves btc to become partially anonymous and this was the main idea of its creator so why revise it  ?

btc will only loose some avid costumers and they could be switching on other cryptos that are still anonymous  . scammers can still be avoided if people will only become wiser and smarter but let say if btc and cryptos  are fully traceable , scammers will think twice before doing such act and the scammer will also be reduce dramatically  .
3842  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of the current status of Bitcoin? on: December 13, 2019, 03:04:32 PM
2019 was another stepping stone for Bitcoin to move forward and to reach more achievements and success. This year was a long journey for Bitcoin but there were lots of improvements and adoptions which we should consider as an advantage for the better situation of crypto in the coming years.

This is a year also of realization to many crypto users and understand better what's going in the market. Adoption is growing every day and that means the demand of crypto is also growing. This year is really a long journey for bitcoin attaining a more stabilized value as compared to previous years of its existence.

atleast btc achieved that right ? to become less volatile  .  that is also my wish before and now this year was a succesor  .

btc did seem to stabilize for a long time but the only problem is that its value dropped too much  . my happiness were cut off tbh but what i can do ? the year is almost over so i can only expect for a better price increase next year  .  now for this moment . i think i wont acumulate more btc but id only wait to see if btc recover next year   .  that would be my go signal to start the year 
3843  Economy / Economics / Re: How do manage portfolio efficiently while having a full time job? on: December 13, 2019, 08:22:29 AM
first of all , you are not really that bad in english  . second of all , your schedule is so hectic and i suggest is better not stress your self on those trades but better if you can only foccus on what your doing right now if you think that they are more important than what you will be getting on crypto trades  .  lastly if you still insist to multi task  , there are so many apps on the web that can help you automate or get instant updates regarding on your portfollio  , i forget thier names but you can search them on google and test which work better for you
3844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FEAR OF DUMPING on: December 13, 2019, 07:11:19 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  Cool. due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.

same here , i dont also like to hodl my coins for a long time but i love to sell them as soon as poosible so that i can enjoy my hardwork from working a long time in a bounty that i joined  . 

short or long term , both are still have risk  . once we enter the world of crypto we are already expose to many risk  . also we all have a fear of dumping , that is why i choose to be a short term hodler/trader but for an ico owner its their responsibility already if their coins would dump or not  .
3845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is now the right time to buy altcoin? on: December 12, 2019, 05:12:53 PM
What else will the right time buy altcoin? All coins are almost in red for months. You can buy even with close eye (just kidding, don’t do that).
I know despite down in price no one will invest right now and everyone will wait for the next bull run to buy coins when their prices will be sky-high. That’s how crypto trading is going on, people buy high and sell in low.


lol seriously  ? wait for the bull , buy high and sell low ? wtf is that move  . trading does not work that way but it works like this  : > they will wait for the dump then buy coins and then wait for the bull to sell  .

now is the example for traders to buy and i guess they are buying now because we can see some improvements on the price  .  this is the right time to buy but people think that the right is when coins drop really hard , they are just greedy which can only lead for them to miss the oppurtunity  .
3846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else notice that when share market down, crypto price goes up? on: December 12, 2019, 04:40:07 PM
how is that possible ? when market is down your also saying that all prices of cryptos are down but you said  btc always increased ?  

you mean to say that if the market goes down its always followed by a small increase  ? that seem to be true but not  always  . there are those times that when the market is down all cryptos including btc were still down for a longer time  . and why only btc or why mostly btc increases first ? well because btc is the most valueable coins before others   .
3847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can do Governements against Satoshi ? on: December 12, 2019, 04:02:14 PM
no he didnt predicted anything . no on earth can predict if what will happen to thier invention  .

he is just lucky because people embrace his invention  . you said he is threatened too much but how can you say that he will comeback  ? isnt he scared  ? what if you are right that there are already people that hunt for him  .  of course no one believes on him before because his invention is not that popular and who would know him anyway  ? he is like an ordinary people 10 years ago  
3848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Never possible earn free bitcoin without work. on: December 12, 2019, 03:19:42 PM
Agreed. I worked as a support agent at one ICO and I always received request like "give me bitcoins for free".It's just annoying! Why do some people think they can receive money without any work?
Maybe because there are Airdrops, airdrops is giving away free tokens or coins that you can easily convert to bitcoin if it has a value in the exchanger. Maybe that is also the reason why a lot of people are expecting free coins or tokens to ICO's.

but he said he is only working as a support and i believe its not his job to process payments but the work of support is to fix user's issue related only on thier ico  and do you think he will complain here if is in charge for the airdrops  ?

nothing wrong of asking for the payments but they should ask for the right person and also they will only make sure that they really did their job correctly and not just begging without working because that is funny and bad thing to do  .
3849  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make big profits from exchanging bitcoin to altcoins on: December 12, 2019, 01:25:53 PM
too bad .  i tell you , you already loose the potential of  earning big profits the moment you exchange your btc to alts  . you didnt really know the worth of your btc arent you   ? but dont worry  ,  if ever you already exchange your btc to alts  you can still exchange it back to btc although you will only loose some due to transaction and trading fees  .  or also you can roll it and live like a trader where you trade those alts to other coins then you trade those coins to a cheap coin and sell for higher  price  .
3850  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I am not lucky in trading - what am I doing wrong? on: December 12, 2019, 12:46:52 PM
I think you are not the only one who are facing difficulties in trading because trading is really risky and difficult to learn that even you watch a lot of tutorial videos and read books about trading, it is still difficult to apply it in your trades even you follow the basic strategy of trading like buy low, sell high because bitcoin votality males it difficult to trade that you can't predict when will bitcoin's price will go up and down.

risky is not the right word to include when you are facing diffculties in trading but risk is already given before you trade but difficult yes it is difficult to trade but the guy said he already do trading for a few years and with that time he is still a noob  ? i find that strange  .

 it wont be difficult if you will learn too much either by reading or watching  a video not unless if your mind is floating during your learning sessions  .  not all are blessed with good trading skills but we can make it happen if we wont give up  .
3851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: About a Btc site(Someone help me remember) on: December 12, 2019, 10:16:00 AM
Base on the given information, more likely you are pertaining to a cloud mining BTC site or something like that.


i dont think its a cloud mining website he is talking about because  a cloud mining website only offers a cloud mining  . you know the one that you deposit cryptos and their platform are the ones that will mine for you  but the op refering to is a gambling site slash and casino   .

@op if i still remeber yobit is a trading exchange where you can buy and  sell btc , or invest  plus they do have a built it gambling game on thier site as well   .  id like to clear that im not promoting yobit and im not related to them   .
3852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you learn as a gambler? on: December 12, 2019, 08:37:13 AM
yes we hear so many negative or bad effects pertaining to gamble and now what you wanted to hear  ? the positive effects  ? hmmm i think the positive effects that gambling dealt on my life is that it provides me an income ( extra income ) to be specific aside from working online  . gambling is really helpful to me but i dont know about the others  .  also i learn that we must be patience and embrace the small income what we got on the gambling platforms . we must think our family first so that we wont over gamble   .
3853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much Money You Need To Win To Stop gambling, Is This Possible. on: December 12, 2019, 06:52:21 AM
As long as he still has a passion for playing gambling, that person will always come back to gambling places and try their luck. They want to chase the other money so they can have a chance to make bigger money. But if they can think that it will not possible to get the bigger money, that person will stop his habit and will try to search for making money from the other way.

This is not happening at all. It is easy to observe that even if gamblers are losing everyday or every time they go to casinos, they are still gambling. They are still playing and waging even if they know that they are losing so much. They know that they cannot get the bigger money because they have very little chance to succeed but they still set aside money from their limited funds to go to gambling and placing bets. If losing will make them realize, all the gamblers must have already quit gambling.

Some of them know the risk of playing gambling, but they consider that they can prevent themselves from becoming addicting. But the other gambler, although they know they can lose the money, they still playing as you say. The only way to preventing the loss is by limiting the money we use to gamble so we don't place bets with a higher amount than we can afford. If they can do that, I think they can realize that gambling is only for entertainment and get fun. But if we talk about how much money we need to win so w can stop, then the answer will vary.

you dont need to bet small to know the real worth of gambling because some gamblers that i know were already playing for fun but their bets were already huge enough  .

 once they feel that they enjoy enough that is the time that they will stop  . they dont chase loss or get angry from loosing whatsoever  .  thier story tells to us that there is no specific amount of money to accumulate before realize that you need to stop on gambling  .
3854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the main purpose in gambling, always to make more money? on: December 12, 2019, 06:13:47 AM
For me it was, and once I did realize that I stopped gambling, although not completely,
confuse  ? you said you stop but not completely  . you mean to say that you are now in control of the situation compare to before that you cant stop easily

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there are some casinos which give tokens and tokens yield dividends, so I tend to give it a go once in a while.
same here  . that is what i do so that i can control my self for depositing too much but atleast we can still play gambling right  ? but we cant expect too much from these small amounts of money  .

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Rather than gambling to make money, you are better off doing some other work, at least you would be sure that you will be paid.
no problem on gambling if you can make money because it is hassel free than working but we better get a work if we are noob on gambling
3855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bull run is delayed! Halving not helping! Bear go away on: December 11, 2019, 06:19:48 PM
and how do you know that the bull run will start ? we are already on december and there are no bull runs but who knows ?  what if the designated time for the bull run are now adjusted  ? any month can be a potential start date for a bull run  and how can you say that halving didnt help when the halving dont occur yet  . who brought the bears ? well people that like to invest and trade , they are the ones that buy on bears but they are also the ones that make bull run happen 
3856  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Whales keep getting richer and richer while everybody else is losing... on: December 11, 2019, 03:37:20 PM
Whales are well educated, they are also financial literate and that's why their wealth are keep growing. They have financial knowledge where they know the strength and weaknesses of a coin. They have good risks management and good trading setups to win in a trading. They are also good executing their plan carefully because of the portfolio that they have. Whales have power to manipulate the market because of the bitcoins that they have.

Because it's a natural case that rich are easier to get richer because they already have a huge capital and they will just richer just by their passive income. More over in cryptocurrency the whales could pump and dump the price easily because a huge volume could make the market move.

thats not always the case that happens  . i know some rich people that already became poor because of mis handling of thier money  .

they have alot of capital and expected that they will also bet more because it wont make sense if they bet small when they already have tons of cash and what if they loose those big bets  ?  passive income that your saying will also come if they will invest on something and this also needs a capital  . what they do is also not easy because there will also be whales that do oppositely  .
3857  Economy / Economics / Re: Who is the richest person? on: December 11, 2019, 02:54:46 PM
Satoshi if still surviving could be another most riches person in the world. Satoshi allegedly holds 1 million bitcoin which are about $72 billions at current price that comes along the money richest persons have. Imagine the moment bitcoin doubles, Satoshi would be the most richest person in the world.
I doubt Satoshi did create the bitcoin for himself. If that was the case in the very beginning then he could've move his bitcoin and sold it since then but he did not. I don't think Satoshi got a value at that amount, we did not even know who Satoshi is/are. As far as I know Winklevoss twins has the 1% of the circulating supply of bitcoin, they might not be the richest person with bitcoin but man that is huge money in there.

1 percent and you call that huge ? to you maybe but to me it sounds pretty small . huge to me means over 5 percent ( if we are talking a total of 10 percent ) and over 50 percent ( if we are talking about 100 percent ) but i guess satoshi did create his btc for himself first because that what he wanted to happen but he also care for other people because what is the reason for building it anyway when we already have existing payment methods and currencies  but he build something unique and useful  . many people outside crypto are more richeier than satoshi .
3858  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin could be 6000$ soon give us your opinion on: December 11, 2019, 01:53:47 PM
hello we all see a few movement Indicate that btc will go down to 6k is this  possible what would be your opinions
I don't think so, maybe it is just your feeling. As you can see, price seems strong at $7k and holiday season is getting near. There's a chance that we might see atleast a little improvement before the end of this year because of that. If your statement happened, then look it in a positive way since you can buy at a cheaper. But seriously we don't see the indication you are seeing. We only see the resistance in $7k. Who knows, you might be right since no one know what will happen.

i believe on what whellscryp said  . since we  are already in the 7k support , its obviously closer to 6k so in no time the price could probably fell down slowly till the exact 6k value or lower than this  but i dont want it to happen iether because im afraid that i could loose my potential profits on my current btc hodlings  . he just said his words normally i dont think that he is scared or nervous about the possible drop   . and what is the relation of the holiday season  ?  holiday or not people can think and act whatever they want  .
3859  Economy / Economics / Re: How many bitcoin is enough? on: December 11, 2019, 01:20:16 PM
In my own opinion, every crypto users always aim to have a huge amount of bitcoin, but it still doesn't satisfy them because every people always experienced greed in terms of money, that is why they always wanted to have a huge amount of bitcoin for them to cure their satisfaction and to buy everything that they wanted and needed.

so there is no specific answer to this question because people are greedy  .

once they have some bitcoin they will try to double it and if its doubled they will try to double it again  . the process will only loop  . unfortunately not all people are risk takers to double their btc but they will just pretend that its enough for them  . i also forgot that the price of btc do also changed   . so when btc price go down  , the need for btc will also rise more evenly    .
3860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Altcoins not Growing These Days on: December 11, 2019, 12:33:38 PM
Because they lose money when investing, therefore investors lose their interest and prefer BTC compared to altcoin. But take it easy there is still hope if altcoin will pump and almost everyone hopes it will happen in 2020

and why would they loose money at the first place if they will only knew how to pick up a good alt and if they will only knew how to hodl and trade i think there will be no loosers on here but there are still loosers and they dont easily loose thier interest on doing the same thing because they also want to recover  .  and if its true that people are now switching in btc , why is that btc price is still verry low up to the moment of this writing  ? oh well lets hope that our hopes will occur next year
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