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3841  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is not a Game . on: August 10, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
It can be said unambiguously that if you refer to the game, then it will immediately be a losing option.
Of course, there are too many differences between game and trading. If you use the same ways in playing the game to trading, then probably ends with losing. Trading is a serious matter, not a fun activity. People who claim they are traders should already learn everything about trading as a whole. Also, they must know how the risk in trading, so they use proper strategy to prevent it. Never be the same as you play the game that sometimes just use your feeling to win it.

3842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anything like excess gambling on: August 10, 2021, 11:12:03 PM
Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.
When you gamble with no limitation about time and money to use, I will call it an excessive gambling attitude. This clearly indicates that you cannot control yourself, how can you have no limitation there? Even you are a gambling lover or a fanatic gambler, you should know how to control yourself. Be smart and discipline in gambling, guys! It won't be a fun activity anymore if you become an addict and losing everything because of gambling excessively.

3843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 10, 2021, 11:01:41 PM
its done and officially!!!
L. Messi wears the psg jersey from now on and for the next 3 years Shocked
Yep, I have seen it on PSG official instagram channel. I am not surprised since it was what I guessed before. Messi needs a club that has the ability to pay his salary and promising enough for him to play regularly there. PSG is a perfect place for him to play, it has a very strong attacking line with Mbappe and Neymar there. Now PSG main attackers will be Neymar-Mbappe-Messi, very ideal to catch UCL trophy this season.

My previous guess  Cheesy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877785.msg57626468#msg57626468

3844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 10, 2021, 10:46:52 PM
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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.
This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Where do read that news, mate?
If it is true, it will be very shameful for Barcelona. It is like the attitude of a child who lost his toy. Barcelona shouldn't act like this, a very unprofessional attitude. I agree with you if Barcelona must support Messi's decision. He already gave everything to Barcelona, now it is time for him to move. Barcelona management has no right to refuse Messi's decision. If Barcelona management really attacks PSG, they will lose people's respect. And finally, many Barca fans will leave Barcelona suddenly, especially those who are fanatic Messi fans.
3845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 09, 2021, 11:59:12 PM
but one of his motivating factor to come to Barca was the fact that he was going to play with Messi,the world best player.
Yep, it may be one of his motivations to join Barcelona. But I think it shouldn't be the strongest motivation to be there.

now that Messi is no longer in the team,it would be even hard for Barca to even win a major tittle,because the team was built around Messi.
Don't too early judge Barca will be difficult to compete winning major trophies just because they have no longer Messi! Barcelona club should be bigger than Messi's name, they still have many top players with great talent/skills on the squad. Of course, Messi has a big role, but don't underestimate other players. Who knows the remaining players can play better without Messi? Because now they don't need to rely or focus on a single player only, no main attacker. With this situation, each player will try their best to make a goal when they have a chance. No pressure to pass the ball to someone that be an executor to make a goal.

I believe Barcelona can play well without Messi. Even young players will have more chances to show their best performance. With no Messi there, a new idol will rise soon.

3846  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The reason why investors often lose money on: August 09, 2021, 11:53:13 PM
My rule of thumb in trading is what Warren Buffett said, be greedy when others are fearful and be fearful when others are greedy.
Be greedy should be always too risky, better to avoid. Even Buffett said to be confident doing it once people feel afraid, just be careful since it cannot be applied to every situation. In my opinion, we must always analyze the situation carefully. Do it when it looks like to be worthed and realistic, and kindly refuse to do it once it is likely too risky. Simply, be smart in analyzing!  Smiley

3847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin anti-inflation? on: August 09, 2021, 11:44:34 PM
I really don't know if this bitcoin can be an anti inflation asset or not.
IMO, OP seems not talking about Bitcoin as a digital asset but as a currency. If it is related to a digital asset value, I don't think OP will focus on discussing "anti-inflation". What we are looking for on a digital asset is profits, right? Doesn't really care if Bitcoin has inflation or not. But if Bitcoin will be a global currency someday, surely the topic "inflation" will make sense to discuss. Since people probably want to know the advantage of Bitcoin, whether it can be better than fiats or not.  Wink

3848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 08, 2021, 11:59:06 PM
It looks like Aguero is really mad that Messi has officially left the club. He has come to Barcelona for Messi. And now it looks like Aguero wants to leave also.
Aguero is a professional football player, he won't leave Barcelona just because of Messi leaving. Also, I am sure the biggest reason why he came to Barcelona isn't about Messi. He must know Barcelona is a better place to get more titles and probably to have a new experience there. Since Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in the world that already won various trophies, all players must expect to be a part of that club. Now, Aguero has the chance to shine in Barcelona, even without Messi. I believe he won't waste the chance to be a Barcelona superstar.

3849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 08, 2021, 11:54:48 PM
They dont but probably they are trying to gather all those top stars in a club and try to be Real Madrid 2.0
Actually, there are no problems with gathering many top stars in one club, even the idea of Real Madrid 2.0. As long as it doesn't break any rules and the club has good finances to pay the players' salaries, then it is okay. PSG management is quite smart to sign top players this season, many of them got from free transfer status. So, they will be safe enough from violating financial fair play regulation.

Football is alot more than just winning a trophy. Even if they intended to win UCL, it doesnt justify their action of signing all those top stars. Its nothing more than trying to get more audiences to Ligue 1 and turning it into one of the better league out there.
I know it well, surely football is not focusing on winning a trophy only. There are too many aspects on the football field, very complex and relates to various things. But each season, every club has their own target, it is also the same as in Real Madrid when they ever focused to target the UCL trophy previously. It is exactly what's happening in PSG, they seem to target the UCL trophy. Winning League 1 trophy is a usual thing for them, they need UCL trophy to get the better achievement. However, it is in my own prespective.

3850  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 08, 2021, 11:40:55 PM
semisalnya saya unlock lagi dan modify dengan informasi yang lain kira-kira lebih baik ga gan?
Buat apa? Malah nanti bikin orang-orang bingung. Thread baru bukan idea bagus, bikin ribet ente sendiri.

BTW, jadikan aja ini thread official BK8 di board lokal Indonesia. Kalau ada update atau informasi apapun, share aja di thread ini langsung. Sudah banyak contoh yang lain seperti Bitocto Exchange, NordFX, Pintu, atau ZAKY-CELL. Mereka buat satu thread saja untuk official mereka di SFI. Jadi, orang-orang yang mau tau semua hal tentang platform tersebut, tinggal menuju ke satu thread saja untuk dapat info nya.

3851  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BK8 - Kripto Online Kasino Terbesar dan Terpercaya di Asia - BTC & USDT on: August 06, 2021, 09:59:11 PM
Hi gan, terimakasih untuk masukannya dan akan segera di lock.
Saya lihat thread yang satunya sudah dilock, good response. Semoga tidak diulangi.

Untuk saat ini pilihannya hanya ada 3 di atas, dan usulnya sangat menarik, dan kedepannya semoga kami dapat menyediakan tambahan dalam pilihan crypto seperti TRX dan XRP.
Ditunggu untuk info lanjutannya terkait tambahan crypto TRX dan XRP.  Wink
USDT dengan network TRC20 sebenarnya sudah cukup murah, namun saya kira jika ada opsi lainnya, akan lebih memudahkan pengguna.

Untuk hal ini gan, kami kedepannya akan membuka market baru di Eropa, jadi akan menambah pilihan mata uang lokal berdasarkan negara tersebut sebagai tambahan.
Mungkin redaksinya bisa dirubah sedikit biar gampang dipahami.
EX: Untuk ke depan, BK8 akan mendukung mata uang lokal negara-negara lainnya.

3852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin a safe haven? on: August 06, 2021, 09:49:36 PM
I am not sure you can state it as safe haven. For me, Bitcoin investment surely has risks, not so different than another usual investment. But what makes Bitcoin different? It is about the chance to get higher profits, and even it can be earned in a short time. By the way, for those people who know well how to get big profits from Bitcoin and understand the right way to invest in it, the risk in Bitcoin can be minimized. But it doesn't mean to lose all the risks in Bitcoin. IMO, we must be aware that Bitcoin will probably be never a really safe haven.

3853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The reason why investors often lose money on: August 06, 2021, 09:37:42 PM
Basically being investors in crypto space also requires lots of preparations like crypto trading and if you are too busy and unable to find time for learning then you may stick with bitcoin investments alone.
You are right. There are many things needed for a crypto investor, especially if he wants to be a professional investor with multi assets. He must accept having a learning process and it is probably timeless. There are many things needed to learn, not only about skills or knowledge. A professional investor must learn about the current trend in crypto, a possible situation on the next season, factors that lead to increase/decrease in crypto coins, and many other things. This must require a lot of time and a serious intention.

3854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: August 06, 2021, 09:28:27 PM
Aguero come, Messi goes. Something really strange happened in Barcelona and La Liga this time around.
It is not strange, it is how Barcelona already prepares everything before Messi goes. I think Barcelona already knows if Messi is very possible to leave this season, so they signed Aguero to replace Messi's role if it really happens. And now, when Barcelona must admit to having no Messi in their squad anymore, they already have another top superstar, Aguero. At least, the power of Barcelona attacking won't decrease so much.

without Messi then I think Laliga will be a less attractive league.
Yes, I agree. Without Ronaldo and Messi, La Liga is nothing. The remaining top players in La Liga now cannot replace the popularity of those two legends. I suspect La Liga popularity will drop massively this season. Football fans around the world will prefer to watch EPL, Serie A, or Ligue 1.

3855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 06, 2021, 09:15:42 PM
Its ridiculous but if they are willing to pay quite decent amount for Pogba then so be it.
It is not ridiculous but actually PSG doesn't need a new midfielder, they already have enough players in that position. Maybe PSG will sign Pogba with low fees or even no fees but then the problem can be on the player salaries. I think PSG won't plan to sign another top player if they successfully sign Messi this season.

PSG is trying to get more audiences for Ligue  by gathering all those stars in one team
I believe PSG really wants UCL trophy this season. It is the possible biggest reason why PSG management signs many top players currently. They already have some chances to win it previously, they probably have the intention to try with a bigger effort this season. If PSG can sign Messi, I bet for PSG to win UCL this season.  Wink

3856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 06, 2021, 08:50:19 PM
Maybe Messi is just tired of waiting for a favorable outcome of negotiations to conclude a contract?  Wink And when Messi arrived to sign a contract, the player was asked to reduce his salary even more.
I am sure he is really tired of facing the problem about his salary in Barcelona. I read a rumor that his salary will be cut 50% and even Messi cannot be registered to the La Liga competition because his salary is still too high. Barcelona management is in a serious problem because of the financial crisis, negotiating with the La Liga president also get no solution. I think both Messi and Barcelona management are in a situation with no possible solution. Finally, Messi realizes leaving Barcelona is the only way to solve the problem.

I think that Manchester City would also not refuse to sign Messi even if they have all their strikers, especially since you do not have to pay a lot of money to buy a player.
Man City still targets Harry Kane. I believe they will stop buying a striker if he can sign Harry Kane. Although Man City has unlimited funds, they will face a problem of financial fair play. Not only about player transfer fees but also the number of player salaries on a club. It is like Barcelona experiencing right now.

3857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Elon Interested in Dogecoin? on: August 06, 2021, 08:33:46 PM
Elon said he have bitcoin , ethereum and doge when conference with twitter CEO . so we know the fact why elon shilling doge.
Do you trust his statement? I can understand if he is holding Bitcoin and Ethereum but not for holding Doge. Elon Musk isn't someone who wants to take a risk of his money by investing in Dogecoin. He should know very well that Dogecoin has nothing to survive a long time in crypto market. Even its price cannot increase if no Doge tweets are made by Elon Musk. Although he really has Doge, it may be several months ago, before he pumped Dogecoin.

3858  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The reason why investors often lose money on: August 05, 2021, 11:03:29 PM
But without losing money, investors won't learn much.
That's the point. Losing makes investors learn, they will realize their mistakes. Since all investors must have the intention to take profits, they will force themselves to know well the effective ways to invest then. No investor will accept losing forever, so they must learn hard and more seriously. Well, losing doesn't always be a bad thing. If an investor can understand it and know what to do after losing, it even can be a big motivation for him to improve their investment skills.

3859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: August 05, 2021, 10:55:59 PM
I admit that playing online gambling and playing gambling at physical casinos has a different taste, and everyone does have the freedom to choose.
Indeed. It should be very different between the atmosphere to play online casinos and directly on physical casinos. I can understand what you feel, mate. But we have no choice, health is the priority. It is not only for ourselves but also for all people around us. Since Covid can spread easily, it is better to stay at home. 

Therefore, many people who usually play gambling at physical casinos are now starting to switch to playing online casinos.
Yep, all gamblers should accept to switch to play online casinos. It is much better than stop it totally. As I said above, we have no choice, online casinos are the only choice for now. I think if we already play it many times, we also can feel comfortable with online casinos. Also, think about a new experience in online casinos. It should be an interesting experience for a gambler who tries online caissons for the first time.

3860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: signs of gambling addiction on: August 05, 2021, 10:35:28 PM
I once had a friend who borrowed money from me to play gambling, in fact to this day he has never paid it
after all gamblers have limits and when they borrow money for gambling then it is a nightmare for them as well as the lenders
That's why a gambler should have a limit to use money and loaning should be avoided since it potentially brings bad impacts. Money management isn't only for trading or investment, gambling also needs it. A gambler should know his limit to use money, if the allocation is over, kindly stop gambling at that time. Think about loaning once the funds are over, will be a disaster. As you said above, a gambler will be difficult to pay the loan. How he can pay the loan if he never wins? Even if he wins and gets the money, he will gamble again with the money because he thinks to get more prizes with bigger money. This is actually to happen if a gambler force to gamble with loan money.
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