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3861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 11, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
Mancini is not going anywhere: he will live up until his contract will regularly pay him. After that, and only then, he might think of finding another team to train and he will start again.
Will you work when you are paid not to work?
He has done it before and he will do it again.
3862  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
How are you guys with Bitfinex withdrawals? Any of you got your money out of that mess?
According to coinmarketcap Bitfinex had a 38000 BTC trading volume in the last 24hrs
That's really nothing for finex


I got my 64% back.

I'm thinking I'll need to use the courts to get the rest back but it's almost worth $5000 to not have to deal with the US justice religion.

I mean 64% is better than nothing considering you could have lost everything. I hope you will consider not to leave your coins on exchanges from now on.  Wink
3863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN/DISCUSSION] Silk Network: Silk, DarkSilk and Weaver on: August 11, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
I wonder how many people involved in the scene are actual crypto enthusiasts wanting the paradigm to shift and how many people are involved for just a quick buck.....


Don't misunderstand me but what you call a paradigm shift might never happen. I mean think of how the whole bitcoin thing degenerated: let's call it for what it is now, a mere speculative investment.
Raise your hand if you believe there is still the same atmosphere of the early days.

When money comes into place, everything starts to stink. Ad rot.

Thats all ive been saying!! The atmosphere of the early days is dead here.. money and ego.have corrupted it all.  Dead man walking.

Edit: dead coin trading

Actually, I was referring to Bitcoin. I was not implying that for this project.
You really try to get as much as you can on your side.
3864  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is decentralized.Really?! on: August 11, 2016, 07:00:48 AM
Quote
Bitcoin is based on a peer-to-peer network of computers running the software. These computers are called nodes. Participants in the network might be running nodes for different reasons: for profit as in the case of miners, to manage full-node wallets, to collect and study information about the network, or simply as a social good.
Bitcoin’s decentralized nature contrasts to the structure of fiat currencies. Central banks make monetary decisions after evaluating evidence gathered from the evolution of the economy. In a decentralized system such as Bitcoin, discretionary decisions are not possible.

Understanding
Bitcoin
Cryptography, engineering, and economics
PEDRO FRANCO


My comment: yes, whatever you will think of Bitcoin is decentralized. Go back to your fiat money if you don't like it.
3865  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN/DISCUSSION] Silk Network: Silk, DarkSilk and Weaver on: August 11, 2016, 06:34:17 AM
I wonder how many people involved in the scene are actual crypto enthusiasts wanting the paradigm to shift and how many people are involved for just a quick buck.....


Don't misunderstand me but what you call a paradigm shift might never happen. I mean think of how the whole bitcoin thing degenerated: let's call it for what it is now, a mere speculative investment.
Raise your hand if you believe there is still the same atmosphere of the early days.

When money comes into place, everything starts to stink. Ad rot.
3866  Bitcoin / Press / [2016-08-11] Bitfinex Draws Volume as Traders Test Experimental BFX Tokens on: August 11, 2016, 06:22:28 AM
A market appears to be developing for Bitfinex's newly issued debt tokens.
Distributed this week by the troubled exchange to users who lost funds in last week's $60m hack, the value of the cryptographic tokens rose sharply after the exchange resumed trading today.
The so-called "BFX tokens", a debt-based blockchain asset said to be convertible to equity in the Hong Kong-based business, started the day out at $0.10 and rose to as much as $0.40 over the course of the day's session.

read more here
http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-debt-tokens-trading-bfx-coin-climbs/
3867  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 11, 2016, 06:19:28 AM
How are you guys with Bitfinex withdrawals? Any of you got your money out of that mess?
According to coinmarketcap Bitfinex had a 38000 BTC trading volume in the last 24hrs
That's really nothing for finex
3868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
Still not to be considered as a viable option for big amounts teh only way we are going to get rid of these thefts, robberies and scams is the following

https://bitsquare.io/

I don't see many other options today unless we are able to move money p2p (using escrow)

Bitsquare currently has a 1BTC limit, plus it can take a long time to make the fiat transfer. (2 days for SEPA). So its not a real alternative ATM


Yes, at the moment this is what we get. But, as I said, if we don't have very high needs it is more than good right now.
For big amounts we still have to rely on third party exchanges which showed us how bad they are in managing OUR money.

Anyway, good news is $600  Smiley
3869  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC wallet with interest? on: August 10, 2016, 12:58:15 PM
There is this one which offers 2.35% on BTC deposits
https://magnr.com/

Other related sites are
https://www.facebook.com/HelloMagnr/

https://twitter.com/magnr

They seem a solid company but you never know in the crypto world.
Do your own research before investing
3870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 10, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
Mancini should given another one year to prove himself are deserve to manage inter milan as a world class manager.

Mancini is done and it is time to move on. You cant just expect to give every coach one last chance because that decision will influence the result of the next for the next season. Mancini is a great coach but the club owner want more than that so the best choice is to give another chance to another coach
Mancini was an excellent football player but I'm truly sorry to admit that is no good as a coach.
He was literally overpaid and his results don't really demonstrate he was worth all that money
3871  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NSA, CIA, IRS, DHS, ATF, FBI, GCHQ, Federal Reserve, ISIS are the illuminati on: August 10, 2016, 12:39:57 PM

This was worth a read. Agency or not there's no doubt that products and services like Google, Facebook and so on have some sort of connections, roots with the Agency. They are too big to be left on their own if you ask me. Too powerful not to be controlled by govs
3872  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2016, 12:38:05 PM
Bitfinex Will Resume Trading and Withdrawals in The Next 36 Hours  Shocked

Ask youreself this question, woud you continue trading when Gox reopend without an explanation how they have been hacked.. Shocked

Do youreself a favor, remove all funds and find a regulated exchange.

http://themerkle.com/bitfinex-will-resume-trading-and-withdrawals-in-the-next-36-hours/

Still not to be considered as a viable option for big amounts teh only way we are going to get rid of these thefts, robberies and scams is the following

https://bitsquare.io/

I don't see many other options today unless we are able to move money p2p (using escrow)
3873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 10, 2016, 10:45:52 AM
I expect to see Arsenal vs. Manchester United challenge in this years Premier League competition. Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Leicester City is way behind now. After latest transfers 2 sides hugely step up their squad quality. Considering they had harmony from last season Arsenal is one step ahead right now.

Yes I'd definitely bet on Manchester United to win the English Premier League this coming year. If Mourinho finds how to manage these guys I don't think there is any space for the other teams.

And Man utd to win the league pays quite nice  Wink
3874  Other / Politics & Society / Dear USA why don't you consider using Bitcoin for this? on: August 10, 2016, 08:23:11 AM
U.S. Sent Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/us-sent-400-million-in-cash-to-iran-as-prisoners-were-freed-wsj-reports.html

Euros, Swiss francs and other currencies were packed into wooden pallets and flown to Iran on an unmarked cargo plane, the paper added. The money was procured from the Dutch and Swiss central banks.
The payment was made in foreign currency as it is illegal under U.S. laws to deal with Iran in dollars. Iran also still faces sanctions limiting its access to global markets.
The money was the first installment of a $1.7 billion settlement the Obama administration reached with Iran earlier to resolve a dispute about the non-delivery of U.S. arms purchased by Iran's last monarch, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.


So now imagine how much all this costs: planes, fuel, forex etc.
They could have simply bought 1.7billion dollar in btc which is roughly
1.700.000.000,00 USD = 2.906.276,599 BTC

and make us all rich.

Joking apart, this is the US gov moving cash in wooden pallets to Iran.
 Roll Eyes
3875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2016, 08:14:47 AM
BFX coin to the moooon!  Shocked

Glad to see you're still around, I thought maybe at some point you'd get cleaned out but it seems you're doing fine, kudos!

This whole bitfinex thing is the main reason I've been advocating "as low as possible for as long as possible"  just imagine the political fallout from this kind of "hack" if the price had been 10 or 100X where we are today.

Best case scenario for the long term, in my opinion, is if we can remain below ten billion market cap for as long as possible while the kinks get worked out.

This shit might be game changing, but it's nowhere near prime time.

Some egghead is gonna crack this thing eventually. Who wants to become a systemic risk? Spread it out like butter on a burn. That's what I say.

EGG-xactly!

Your crypto money is only as secure as whatever the current state of the art cryptography is capable of.

How can elliptic curve possibly be as secure as shipping paper bills on pallets? Transparency be damned!
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-sent-cash-to-iran-as-americans-were-freed-1470181874

If you get blocked by the shitty wall street journal, just Google the following "U.S. Sent Cash to Iran as Americans Were Freed" -no body bothers to do their own work any more , the media has become the best echo chamber ever!

IRANic Grin Grin Grin

They could have send some small BTC transaction every once in while instead of asking the Duthc and the Swiss to provide them with other currency because it is illegal to deal this things with US dollar.
They still have a long way to go to reach 1.7billion! good luck with that.

Imagine what a mega pump if the US will consider to buy 1.3 billion of BTC to settle this deal.

No more moon, we'll go well beyond

3876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 09, 2016, 02:55:50 PM
Finally POGBAck! That's the new hashtag. One of the biggest trades in modern football. Sooo much money for a player.
Wil he prove to be so valuable? Yes, I'd say he's a great player but if you ask me, he lacks so much experience. Long way to go for him to be a real top one.
3877  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2016, 02:53:15 PM
They are all inside jobs. MtGox, Mintpal, Cryptorush, Cryptsy, Bter, what am I missing? other than Bitfinex...

If we would add the numerous scamcoins/projects/ICOs/IPOs born and dead for a single reason i.e. the profit of the creators well you can think of how much money disappeared into this new economy.

So much waste.

But I'll not be naive: in the world out there it is exactly the same.
3878  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2016, 03:58:11 PM
I'm sorry but I hate the idea of giving finex the ability to issue "tokens" to their customers.
It means that every time shit happens they can "trick the system" as they please.

That looks like some sort of QE to me. Am I the only one who sees it that way?
3879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 08, 2016, 03:46:01 PM
Too bad for Leicester.
Zlatan is too much: he gets along very well with Jose Mourinho and I believe Manchester United will be in the top class once again next year.

Man utd has one of the most skilled player on Earth together with one of the best trainers.
3880  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: difficulty finally dropping like expected- dramatically. on: August 08, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

As of today the next mining difficulty will be 6.06% higher than the actual one. Last time I checked yesterday it was 4%
So expect a new higher difficulty once again
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