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3861  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 15, 2017, 10:04:54 PM
Buy a plane ticket and travel in a straight line and you can easily see the earth is not flat. Very hard huh?
3862  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 10:02:59 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.

But you can't do it without some complexity.

Suddenly you like to play with complexity. Did you forget entropy? More complex doesn't come from less complex. This means that our complex life, emotion, thought, intelligence, etc., came from something more complex in the past. So, whatever placed the complexity into the universe when it started the universe, had all these qualities in greater amount than we have.

When you look at the great complexity around, you realize that the intelligence to make this complexity is way beyond anything that we could understand. Putting all the "qualities" that exist together in such a complex form indicates God.

You can talk like you are getting away from it. But you can't get away from it.

Cool

So I'm guessing the creator of god has to be much more complex as well, right?

You are the one that said you are guessing. If you are really guessing, than what you posted is right. If you are not, then it is wrong.

Is it not time to get on topic and discuss the scientific proof for (or against) God? Like many others, you have lots of room in the forum to post all kinds of religious threads about God. Why continue to do it in this one scientific thread about God? Are you really trying to state that science is a religion for you?

Cool

So you agree that god has a creator? Interesting.

I didn't say or imply that I think that God has a creator. You know it, yet you seem to claim that I said or implied such. Just goes to show your deceptiveness.

Cool

But what created god then? Since he is so complex as you claim, then something even more complex must have created him, right?

Science definitely has shown us that God controls complexity. But I haven't seen any science that has shown that God was created. Have you researched it?

Cool

It didn't at all. Science only shows us that there was a beginning to the universe, everything after that are just assumptions on your part. Saying it was god. It could have been a lot of other things, so no, science hasn't shown us that. Why don't you just admit your belief in god is purely based on faith and try desperately to prove his existence with science when you know you won't be able to.

If you want to stop at entropy, perhaps science only shows a beginning. But when you add complexity through cause and effect, science definitely shows us God.

Cool

No it doesn't. As I said, that points to multiple different possible causes and who knows how many more there are that we haven't thought of. It doesn't necessarily have to be god. It could be gods, could be any other creature that is complex enough to create a universe, a simulation etc etc. Just because you can't think of any other possible explanation it doesn't give you the right to say it's god.
3863  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 09:22:24 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.

But you can't do it without some complexity.

Suddenly you like to play with complexity. Did you forget entropy? More complex doesn't come from less complex. This means that our complex life, emotion, thought, intelligence, etc., came from something more complex in the past. So, whatever placed the complexity into the universe when it started the universe, had all these qualities in greater amount than we have.

When you look at the great complexity around, you realize that the intelligence to make this complexity is way beyond anything that we could understand. Putting all the "qualities" that exist together in such a complex form indicates God.

You can talk like you are getting away from it. But you can't get away from it.

Cool

So I'm guessing the creator of god has to be much more complex as well, right?

You are the one that said you are guessing. If you are really guessing, than what you posted is right. If you are not, then it is wrong.

Is it not time to get on topic and discuss the scientific proof for (or against) God? Like many others, you have lots of room in the forum to post all kinds of religious threads about God. Why continue to do it in this one scientific thread about God? Are you really trying to state that science is a religion for you?

Cool

So you agree that god has a creator? Interesting.

I didn't say or imply that I think that God has a creator. You know it, yet you seem to claim that I said or implied such. Just goes to show your deceptiveness.

Cool

But what created god then? Since he is so complex as you claim, then something even more complex must have created him, right?

Science definitely has shown us that God controls complexity. But I haven't seen any science that has shown that God was created. Have you researched it?

Cool

It didn't at all. Science only shows us that there was a beginning to the universe, everything after that are just assumptions on your part. Saying it was god. It could have been a lot of other things, so no, science hasn't shown us that. Why don't you just admit your belief in god is purely based on faith and try desperately to prove his existence with science when you know you won't be able to.
3864  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 08:44:34 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.

But you can't do it without some complexity.

Suddenly you like to play with complexity. Did you forget entropy? More complex doesn't come from less complex. This means that our complex life, emotion, thought, intelligence, etc., came from something more complex in the past. So, whatever placed the complexity into the universe when it started the universe, had all these qualities in greater amount than we have.

When you look at the great complexity around, you realize that the intelligence to make this complexity is way beyond anything that we could understand. Putting all the "qualities" that exist together in such a complex form indicates God.

You can talk like you are getting away from it. But you can't get away from it.

Cool

So I'm guessing the creator of god has to be much more complex as well, right?

You are the one that said you are guessing. If you are really guessing, than what you posted is right. If you are not, then it is wrong.

Is it not time to get on topic and discuss the scientific proof for (or against) God? Like many others, you have lots of room in the forum to post all kinds of religious threads about God. Why continue to do it in this one scientific thread about God? Are you really trying to state that science is a religion for you?

Cool

So you agree that god has a creator? Interesting.

I didn't say or imply that I think that God has a creator. You know it, yet you seem to claim that I said or implied such. Just goes to show your deceptiveness.

Cool

But what created god then? Since he is so complex as you claim, then something even more complex must have created him, right?
3865  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 15, 2017, 08:43:50 PM

Agreed!  Nomind should research flat earth so he can answer basic questions about it.   Grin

I like how he ignores us to take a pic and upload here and then proceed to un ignore lol
3866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 15, 2017, 04:21:24 PM
Not a Flat-earther, but am taken aback by the close-up pics of Saturn's rings. CGi comes to mind.

The problem with the flat earth theory is that it takes a simple experiment to prove it wrong. Just walk in a straight line and eventually you will be back where you started. I mean you don't have to walk but anyone can take a plane and see it for themselves, as easy as that. Yet these lunatics don't want to accept that because they are insane.
3867  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 03:17:33 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.

But you can't do it without some complexity.

Suddenly you like to play with complexity. Did you forget entropy? More complex doesn't come from less complex. This means that our complex life, emotion, thought, intelligence, etc., came from something more complex in the past. So, whatever placed the complexity into the universe when it started the universe, had all these qualities in greater amount than we have.

When you look at the great complexity around, you realize that the intelligence to make this complexity is way beyond anything that we could understand. Putting all the "qualities" that exist together in such a complex form indicates God.

You can talk like you are getting away from it. But you can't get away from it.

Cool

So I'm guessing the creator of god has to be much more complex as well, right?

You are the one that said you are guessing. If you are really guessing, than what you posted is right. If you are not, then it is wrong.

Is it not time to get on topic and discuss the scientific proof for (or against) God? Like many others, you have lots of room in the forum to post all kinds of religious threads about God. Why continue to do it in this one scientific thread about God? Are you really trying to state that science is a religion for you?

Cool

So you agree that god has a creator? Interesting.
3868  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 02:13:51 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.

But you can't do it without some complexity.

Suddenly you like to play with complexity. Did you forget entropy? More complex doesn't come from less complex. This means that our complex life, emotion, thought, intelligence, etc., came from something more complex in the past. So, whatever placed the complexity into the universe when it started the universe, had all these qualities in greater amount than we have.

When you look at the great complexity around, you realize that the intelligence to make this complexity is way beyond anything that we could understand. Putting all the "qualities" that exist together in such a complex form indicates God.

You can talk like you are getting away from it. But you can't get away from it.

Cool

So I'm guessing the creator of god has to be much more complex as well, right?
3869  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 01:57:28 PM

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.

The fact that you are unable to use a dictionary, doesn't mean I have to define anything. Get a family member or roommate to look "complexity" up for you in the dictionary.

Once you have the definition of complexity firmly embedded in your mind, then make one of those atoms you are talking about. No, I don't mean manipulate one. I mean make one. Like, create it. Why would I want you to do this? Just so that you can see that parts of an atom are not nearly as simple as our names for them.

Cool

Again invoking some sort of authority. Just because humans can't make certain things doesn't mean a god created them. You jump from, this is complex to this is complex therefore a god must have created it. What I'm saying is that an atom only is less complex than a full human body for example. And the parts that make the atom are less complex than the atom itself and if you keep digging you get to the least complex part.

Also humans can manufacture matter. We can turn light into subatomic particles for example.
3870  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 10:22:03 AM
I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

You make good points... unfortunately there can be scientific proof if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

This is exactly why I use basic, foundational science to show that God exists.

Everyone understands basic entropy a little. We all can see it in old age. Scientific laws regarding it are readily accessible in books and the internet. Scientific theory that tries to explain how it works, still doesn't understand it. But entropy is observable all around us.

Certainly science understands complexity more than anyone. Medical science has been trying to cure all kinds of diseases for ages. Nature is so extremely complex, that science has been failing with many of its cures. If science has been able to extend the length of lives of people, it isn't by much. Consider billionaire David Rockefeller. He died at age 101. If science had been able to keep anyone alive and young, he would have paid for it with his $billions.

Cause and effect is the basics of science. Scientists continually try to find the scientific causes that make/made everything that exists. Whatever they research, they continually look for the cause of it. No spontaneous generation of anything has ever been found. There is always a cause for something.

These 3 - cause and effect, complexity, entropy - point to the existence of God. How does it work? Like this.

Entropy shows that there was a beginning. If there had been no beginning, and if everything had been going on as it is forever, entropy would have destroyed all complexity long ago. Because the complexity is as great as it is, there was a beginning, and not too far in the past.

Entropy also shows that complexity is running down. In general, the past was more complex than what exists today. We do not find complexity coming out of something less complex, except temporarily. Now and again a couple of low intelligence will be parents of a genius. But the genius genes were inside the parents, even though they were not evident in the parents themselves. Complexity is always waning because of entropy.

Cause and effect is the greatest. Everything has a cause... or many causes. And the causes are effects of other causes. Like entropy and complexity, cause and effect are all-pervading... present throughout the whole system of nature.

In the same way that you can cause something complex to happen - if you think about it and plan it out and do it through cause and effect - even so nature has a complex plan built into it. How often do you throw a handful of sand into the air, and reap something complex that you can understand? The way the sand lands may produce a complex pattern, but the complexity of even that is beyond understand. It takes great working among people to produce complexity that is slightly great - automobile, computer, rocket, good medicine, etc.

The point? Whatever set cause and effect into place, to produce the complexity of life through essentially throwing a handful of sand into the air, must be extremely complex within itself. And since the complexity in us includes intelligence, emotion, thinking, feeling, and a host of other complex things, such complexity must be withing the "genetics" of whatever started cause and effect.

The best understanding of what this starter of cause and effect is, is found in our word "God."

Cool

You are talking about theories and assumptions. Scientific proof means, it is testable or measurable in anyway ... so if I do A, I always get B as Result. If I say - if I do A, it SHOULD get me B ... it is only a theory. You still have to proof it. If you can't proof it ... like in this case ... it is still a theory.
We still cannot completely explain the big bang ... so god COULD have been the source for that. But that is just a theory. In the past people thought that thunder is also created by god, because they had no tools and the knowledge to explain this phenomenon.

Cause and effect is overwhelming throughout nature, and nothing to contradict it has ever been found.

Entropy is overwhelming throughout nature, and nothing to contradict it has ever been found.

Complexity, is extremely great. Even simplicity in nature is extremely complex.

All scientific experiments contain these 3 to some extent... even if the scientist doesn't state it in his white papers. How much more proof can you find anywhere for anything?

Cool

You have to define what complexity means. The fact that something is complex doesn't mean it was created by a superior being. The complexity in a human being is formed in it's core by atoms, which are also formed by electrons, protons etc etc which aren't really complex. Together they can make up something pretty complex but that doesn't mean anything. You are just assuming everything. You are also assuming that it has to be a god because it's our best definition which makes no sense. It's a made up definition. Any other god, aliens, other superior beings could fit in that category as well.
3871  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 15, 2017, 09:12:18 AM
I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

You make good points... unfortunately there can be scientific proof if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

This is exactly why I use basic, foundational science to show that God exists.

Everyone understands basic entropy a little. We all can see it in old age. Scientific laws regarding it are readily accessible in books and the internet. Scientific theory that tries to explain how it works, still doesn't understand it. But entropy is observable all around us.

Certainly science understands complexity more than anyone. Medical science has been trying to cure all kinds of diseases for ages. Nature is so extremely complex, that science has been failing with many of its cures. If science has been able to extend the length of lives of people, it isn't by much. Consider billionaire David Rockefeller. He died at age 101. If science had been able to keep anyone alive and young, he would have paid for it with his $billions.

Cause and effect is the basics of science. Scientists continually try to find the scientific causes that make/made everything that exists. Whatever they research, they continually look for the cause of it. No spontaneous generation of anything has ever been found. There is always a cause for something.

These 3 - cause and effect, complexity, entropy - point to the existence of God. How does it work? Like this.

Entropy shows that there was a beginning. If there had been no beginning, and if everything had been going on as it is forever, entropy would have destroyed all complexity long ago. Because the complexity is as great as it is, there was a beginning, and not too far in the past.

Entropy also shows that complexity is running down. In general, the past was more complex than what exists today. We do not find complexity coming out of something less complex, except temporarily. Now and again a couple of low intelligence will be parents of a genius. But the genius genes were inside the parents, even though they were not evident in the parents themselves. Complexity is always waning because of entropy.

Cause and effect is the greatest. Everything has a cause... or many causes. And the causes are effects of other causes. Like entropy and complexity, cause and effect are all-pervading... present throughout the whole system of nature.

In the same way that you can cause something complex to happen - if you think about it and plan it out and do it through cause and effect - even so nature has a complex plan built into it. How often do you throw a handful of sand into the air, and reap something complex that you can understand? The way the sand lands may produce a complex pattern, but the complexity of even that is beyond understand. It takes great working among people to produce complexity that is slightly great - automobile, computer, rocket, good medicine, etc.

The point? Whatever set cause and effect into place, to produce the complexity of life through essentially throwing a handful of sand into the air, must be extremely complex within itself. And since the complexity in us includes intelligence, emotion, thinking, feeling, and a host of other complex things, such complexity must be withing the "genetics" of whatever started cause and effect.

The best understanding of what this starter of cause and effect is, is found in our word "God."

Cool

How was the past more complex in general? Humans were far less complex 1000 years ago.
3872  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 14, 2017, 10:24:55 PM

Earth is 71% water and water does not curve nor stick to a 1000+mph spinning ball. (When you try to put water on a ball, it falls off)

You heard it people!!!!44
When you try to put water on a ball, it falls off
That's absofuckinglutely convienced me. GIVE THAT MAN A NOBEL FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!!4444444444
PUT WATER ...ON A BALL.. and it falls off...



Water sticks to the rotating globe earth. Time to rethink your wording... which will bring you to a better understanding of globe earth.

Cool

I seriously just died when I read this explanation.... I had to be revived. water doesn't stick to a ball.... At 1000+ miles per hour. Nice.
It does not stick to a ball? Have you ever been on the beach? Water sticks to a ball, at least partially... The rest is pulled down by the gravity, because it sticks to the larger ball. So yeah it does stick to balls, and fyi it sticks to every objects regardless their shape. Cheesy

Yeah right, spinning ball earth believers. Your ignorance on that matter is big and your common sense is seriously flawed.



What exactly you don't understand here. It is called science-observable, repeatable and measurable experiments.


Yeah, I am the ignorant one, because I know the tennis ball stuff is not modelling the earth-water relation at all (probably you never heard about multiple forces occuring same time), but you are smart one because you think gravity is non-existent and we are pushed down with electrostatic force(?) generated by the dome(?) sorry I don't remeber your ridiculous theories exactly, but yeah, that makes sense. You can call someone ignorant, when your "proof" won't be a meme. Cheesy This happens when you fail all your exams and drop out from school. Smiley

Exactly, gravity does not exist. It is imaginary force in the spinning ball earth heliocentric deception. Keep researching.




I think you might need a negative trust rating as well.
3873  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 14, 2017, 09:36:56 PM

Earth is 71% water and water does not curve nor stick to a 1000+mph spinning ball. (When you try to put water on a ball, it falls off)

You heard it people!!!!44
When you try to put water on a ball, it falls off
That's absofuckinglutely convienced me. GIVE THAT MAN A NOBEL FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!!4444444444
PUT WATER ...ON A BALL.. and it falls off...



Water sticks to the rotating globe earth. Time to rethink your wording... which will bring you to a better understanding of globe earth.

Cool

I seriously just died when I read this explanation.... I had to be revived. water doesn't stick to a ball.... At 1000+ miles per hour. Nice.
It does not stick to a ball? Have you ever been on the beach? Water sticks to a ball, at least partially... The rest is pulled down by the gravity, because it sticks to the larger ball. So yeah it does stick to balls, and fyi it sticks to every objects regardless their shape. Cheesy

Yeah right, spinning ball earth believers. Your ignorance on that matter is big and your common sense is seriously flawed.



What exactly you don't understand here. It is called science-observable, repeatable and measurable experiments.



The tennis ball water is affected by earth's gravity which is much stronger, of course the water is going to fall to the sides. Not to mention that the earth is not moving that fast, the tennis ball would have to take 24 hours to do 1 full rotation. I don't know if you are a troll or simply retarded.
3874  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 14, 2017, 09:29:00 PM
Earth at 121,000 feet and no curvature oh, and what a surprise Vod it looks nothing like a cartoon picture. -- https://youtu.be/WQITXbcz2hg



Earth curvature is created by fisheye lenses and NASA CGI artists!


But where is the dome???
3875  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 14, 2017, 01:23:41 PM
Yes I believe in god ، and I Believer there is one god , when you ask about god that mean you in a good way to god

God is the one who gives the life that we are using right now. God is the one who are always ready to forgive our sins that we committed and we do. God is also in our side to help us by giving blessings and protect us from all danger that we might face. We should remember that God is good all the time.

'' protect us from all danger that we might face.'' Seriously? All the innocent children that are dying and suffering everyday are protected by god? Give me a break.
3876  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 14, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 

If you can't understand it how are you convinced that what he is doing is the right thing?

ehm... well ... I am not?! Because I don't believe in god. I thought that because of the way I chose my words, it was pretty clear how I feel about this topic ^^. Apparently not.

Yeah, my bad. I'm used to religious extremists in this topic
3877  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 14, 2017, 11:08:46 AM
On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything

And yet, everything bad that happens on earth is not his fault...   Roll Eyes

Well, god doesn't make any mistakes. If something happens, then it happens for a reason! Apparently there is a very good reason why e.g. so many children starve to death ... but of course we stupid humans cannot understand it. 

If you can't understand it how are you convinced that what he is doing is the right thing?
3878  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 14, 2017, 09:47:07 AM
I am a little bit surprised why this is even a thing. Despite if god exists or not ... there can't be a SCIENTIFIC proof for the existence.

There can be if you make up your own definition of "SCIENTIFIC".   Undecided

That is true. I just don't understand why believers try so hard to combine science with the supernatural. On one side, god is this almighty power that is just everywhere, sees everything, knows everything - but then he is still provable through science. Doesn't make it even more sense to say ... well you can't proof gods existence BECAUSE he is so powerful!



Because they are pussies to admit they only believe in gods blindly. They know deep inside there is really no evidence or proof for their existence and they only believe in them because they are desperately trying to find a purpose for life.
3879  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 14, 2017, 09:45:54 AM
So we are back to no evidence, youtube videos and some pictures where someone insulted him (sniff, sniff, I'm hurt) as always.
Most of the ones that has research flat earth has found BS and nothing else.
Over 400 pages and still not a convincing argument. This must be a world record

nomad is a mentally ill delusional person. Thankfully vod gave him negative trust. The guy is a loony.
nomad is just farming with his alt accounts probably for selling purposes...

A lot of good points are being made in this thread - a lot of education for those willing to learn...

It's a shame NoMind and friends can just post garbage memes and bury the good points.  Sad
I wouldn't call some shitty non-related image created in MS Paint memes, but yeah, this toxic behavior is more than annoying. No value would be lost if lowmad would be gone for good. Cheesy

I'm still seriously debating whether he is trolling or not. After 400 pages of the same shit it seems hard that he would still troll and not get bored but at the same time he posts only troll shit. I'm genuinely interested in finding out but I don't know if we will ever know. Certainly he is insane if he kept the act for so long.
3880  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 13, 2017, 11:51:13 PM
^

I'm sure there's a tutorial somewhere if you can't figure out how to start your own thread.

Good luck, Sparky.

 Kiss

Good luck with your negative trust idiot.
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