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3861  Bitcoin / Project Development / MOVED: Looking for Devs to help in new ICO on: August 24, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
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3862  Economy / Services / MOVED: XHOSTFIRE | KVM VPS in Siberia, Russia and Sweden | 1Gbps | INSTANT | From $5/mo on: August 23, 2015, 12:27:15 AM
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3863  Other / Meta / Re: Trouble understanding post moderation. on: August 22, 2015, 07:40:19 AM
Thanks for clearing it up mprep.
I'm still unclear about the swearing though. Is that acceptable?

I'm not asking permission to go on a cursing rampage btw  Grin   I think this particular post that was deleted was in fact my worst ever use of language around here  Smiley

EDIT: And I'll have the apple sauce, thank you  Cool
As long as the post doesn't consist solely of swearing (has some sort of argument or provides information, a.k.a is constructive), then it's OK to do so.
3864  Other / Meta / Re: Trouble understanding post moderation. on: August 21, 2015, 10:50:14 PM
Hi there!

I've had a post deleted by a forum moderator, and while I suspect the reason for the removal, I would appreciate a clarification from any forum moderator as to the rule in question. My point is not to troll the moderators or the forum, I just want to be certain of what caused by post to be deleted, so that I can stick to the rules and avoid future posts from taking the same fate.

Here's the message and deleted post:

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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I sympathize with the child there. Freedom of speech is only ever a good thing when I am free to say whatever the fuck I want, and others can only say whatever the fuck pleases my ears. Smooth must not be allowed to express his opinion by means of post/trust/rating/whatever! Oh ... Wait ... I see what you did there  Roll Eyes

Guess you were spotted very early on, off you go back on ignore little Inquisitive Troll(TM).
Please stop posting off-topic nonsense on this thread.

I haven't followed developments as closely as I would like, do we have any up-to-date community built binaries so I could try out the DB version on my Windows box? I know of the cautionary notes and caveats, just wondering if anyone has published binaries yet.

The bottom portion of the post was quite on-topic, and had significant followup from both the thread OP as well as other community members.

The top portion was a brief reaction to a post by one persistent troll that keeps posting on that thread with all sorts of non-sense propaganda, trying to push a certain agenda forward. This is a fancy troll, in that he writes eloquently enough that he might persuade the less critical readers, using systematic deception tactics and extreme persistence.
For this reason alone, I granted him a response. Otherwise he remains on my ignore list and I don't generally respond to trolls.

So my question is: was my post deleted due to swearing (couple instances of the F word), or was it something else? Is swearing strictly - or even casually - against the forum rules? I've read a good few newbie guides and such, but haven't really found this to be stated anywhere...

Thanks for your time.
It was deleted as it consisted mostly of off-topic content as well as due to the fact that I was cleaning up an off-topic discussion (that included the "troll" you were referring to posts).
3865  Economy / Currency exchange / MOVED: PayPal exchanger on: August 20, 2015, 10:07:46 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1158039.0

Unrelated to Bitcoin.
3866  Other / Off-topic / MOVED: Free goods on: August 20, 2015, 09:57:46 PM
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3867  Economy / Digital goods / MOVED: e-currency exchange Software on: August 20, 2015, 09:48:20 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1158014.0

Illegal sales are not allowed here.
3868  Bitcoin / Project Development / MOVED: Bitcoin Faucet | FaucetEmporium | Support Us In A Whole New Way on: August 20, 2015, 09:46:43 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156385.0

Keep minor announcements in the main thread.
3869  Bitcoin / Project Development / MOVED: The Only Bitcoin Opportunity Like This! on: August 20, 2015, 09:44:04 PM
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3870  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos using Censorship to Engineer Bitcoin on: August 19, 2015, 08:14:39 AM

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XT is bitcoin not an alt.
theymos thinks differently and you're not the one running the forums.



Well Theymos is wrong and soon to it find out.
So far, I haven't seen widespread support for BitcoinXT, but rather support for bigger blocks in Core, as well as a very vocal minority running around and screaming in various Bitcoin communities how they support BitcoinXT. If it, however, becomes more popular than Core and consequently becomes the "real" Bitcoin (as in the overwhelming majority of people/services/miners/etc. accept it as such), I think the place where BitcoinXT discussions will hold place will change from the alt sections to the main forum.

Mprep, stop being a minion and listen carefully

You're not a lawyer. You cant say Theymos legally own this forum.

He is a chief operator of the forums but unless you're an expert of the law (lawyer) you dont know if Theymos is legally the owner.

Sirius and Satoshi created the forum, and there is no legal contract to sign over the ownership.


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Mprep, stop being a minion and listen carefully
Ad hominem, classy.

/s

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You're not a lawyer. You cant say Theymos legally own this forum.
Yes, I can. He pays taxes on the income from the forum's advertising. He was also the one who the government contacted with a subpoena on the DPR case, to release information from Bitcointalk. They don't contact randoms, they contact who legally owns the forum and thus has full authority, with no one to answer to except the law, to release sensitive information.

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He is a chief operator of the forums but unless you're an expert of the law (lawyer) you dont know if Theymos is legally the owner.
See previous comment.

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Sirius and Satoshi created the forum, and there is no legal contract to sign over the ownership.
However, the government considers theymos the owner of the forum while Sirius owns the domain itself.
3871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Auroracoin IOS test (get free AUR!) - New roadmap site! - New wallets! on: August 18, 2015, 09:41:37 PM
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3872  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos using Censorship to Engineer Bitcoin on: August 18, 2015, 09:21:17 PM

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XT is bitcoin not an alt.
theymos thinks differently and you're not the one running the forums.



Well Theymos is wrong and soon to it find out.
So far, I haven't seen widespread support for BitcoinXT, but rather support for bigger blocks in Core, as well as a very vocal minority running around and screaming in various Bitcoin communities how they support BitcoinXT. If it, however, becomes more popular than Core and consequently becomes the "real" Bitcoin (as in the overwhelming majority of people/services/miners/etc. accept it as such), I think the place where BitcoinXT discussions will hold place will change from the alt sections to the main forum.
3873  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos using Censorship to Engineer Bitcoin on: August 18, 2015, 09:03:36 PM
Altcoin section moderator here:

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Theymos is using censorship...
Definition:

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Censorship blocks something from being read, heard, or seen.
Source: http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/censorship
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Go look for the legal definition of constructively blocked, censored, et cetera.  Theymos effectively blocks these discussions by burying them far away.  Alts is an enormous cesspool of total shit.  Nobody has the bandwith to sort through the mountains of trash there.

Moving to the altcoin sections isn't blocking, it's literally clicks away. Regarding the /r/bitcoin subreddit, you are free to create another subreddit that doesn't delete BitcoinXT threads.
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Clicks away?  It is a total noise factory.  Nothing in there is useful.  Alts is a garbage heap.  Theymos doesn't like XT - so he dumps it to the garbage heap.

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to engineer his personal beliefs of Bitcoin - and XT is not the first time.  
You do know that this forum legally belongs to theymos, right? As such he can "engineer" whatever the hell he pleases and so far he's been pretty liberal about it.
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Legally belongs to him?  Good.  I didn't say he has a legal obligation - I am arguing that he has a moral obligation to avoid hindering discussions by turfing topics (dumping to alts) he doesn't approve of.  He can engineer whatever he wants - OK.  He just shouldn't be applying the delete button in response to his personal objectives and visions of bitcoin.  Good that he owns the site - it comes with a bit social responsibility.  


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When Theymos doesn't like something, he buries discussions of it to places where it isn't easily found.
Yeah, clicking your mouse several times is such a hard task.
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Dude, Alts is a giant pile of shit - you can't find anything in there.  Clicking your mouse?  It has nothing to do with clicking the mouse.  And you understand perfectly well what I am saying in this regard.


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This amounts to a form of censorship.
See previous definition.
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See above

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He like to imagine 'oh, that's not true bitcoin - so I'll just stuff that over in alts'.  
And you go to the altcoin sections to see the threads. Big whoop.

XT is bitcoin not an alt.  btw, Mastercoin is bitcoin with some added protocol on top.  It is not an alt.


 
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Moving threads to the altcoin section is not and will never be censorship.
It is constructively eliminating the material by burying it deep in a noise bucket.

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XT is bitcoin not an alt.
theymos thinks differently and you're not the one running the forums.

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btw, Mastercoin is bitcoin with some added protocol on top.  It is not an alt.

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Mastercoin is a digital currency and communications protocol built on the Bitcoin block chain.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastercoin

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It is constructively eliminating the material by burying it deep in a noise bucket.
And that's not censorship. Censorship is eliminating any kind of access to the censored information. As I said, getting to XT threads is literally a few clicks away. Click - you're in the main page, click and you're in the altcoin sections, another click if it's in the second page and click again to open up a thread. Is that difficult to do?
3874  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos using Censorship to Engineer Bitcoin on: August 18, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
Theymos is using censorship to engineer his personal beliefs of Bitcoin - and XT is not the first time.  

When Theymos doesn't like something, he buries discussions of it to places where it isn't easily found.  This amounts to a form of censorship.  He like to imagine 'oh, that's not true bitcoin - so I'll just stuff that over in alts'.  

It has a profound effect on the community.  Censorship is wrong.  Theymos as custodian of the largest platform on bitcoin should self impose restrictions on continued use of this technique.

For example, Mastercoin was worth $150M market cap and getting enormous attention.  Mastercoin is added layer on TOP of bitcoin.  It introduced some really useful new function - on top of bitcoin's blockchain.  

Theymos didn't consider it real bitcoin.  He moved the Mastercoin threads deep into the very noisy 'Alts' section.  The community could no longer effectively communicate and organize.  Mastercoin dissolved and disappeared immediately thereafter.  

Theymos simply destroyed Mastercoin because he personally didn't like it.  

Theymos does like XT.  He considers everything outside his ideal - 'an Alt'.  So, he invokes a kind of censorship to bury those topics.  

It is a very dangerous part of our Bitcoin community that one man has his finger on the delete key and can silence large groups of people presenting important opinion - by merely declaring is 'Alts'.

Theymos needs to stop.  - or be stopped.

Altcoin section moderator here:

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Theymos is using censorship...
Definition:

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Censorship blocks something from being read, heard, or seen.
Source: http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/censorship

Moving to the altcoin sections isn't blocking, it's literally clicks away. Regarding the /r/bitcoin subreddit, you are free to create another subreddit that doesn't delete BitcoinXT threads.

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to engineer his personal beliefs of Bitcoin - and XT is not the first time.  
You do know that this forum legally belongs to theymos, right? As such he can "engineer" whatever the hell he pleases and so far he's been pretty liberal about it.

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When Theymos doesn't like something, he buries discussions of it to places where it isn't easily found.
Yeah, clicking your mouse several times is such a hard task.

/s

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This amounts to a form of censorship.
See previous definition.

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He like to imagine 'oh, that's not true bitcoin - so I'll just stuff that over in alts'.  
And you go to the altcoin sections to see the threads. Big whoop.

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It has a profound effect on the community.  Censorship is wrong.  Theymos as custodian of the largest platform on bitcoin should self impose restrictions on continued use of this technique.
So far I've seen crap in this forum that would never fly in most internet communities, not by a long shot. Moving threads to the altcoin section is not and will never be censorship. You can still fully access it from the comfort of your home.

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For example, Mastercoin was worth $150M market cap and getting enormous attention.  Mastercoin is added layer on TOP of bitcoin.  It introduced some really useful new function - on top of bitcoin's blockchain.  
If it was so amazing, it would've survived in the altcoin sections. Apparently, the "enormous attention" was just excitement for something new that quickly withered off.

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Theymos didn't consider it real bitcoin.  He moved the Mastercoin threads deep into the very noisy 'Alts' section.  The community could no longer effectively communicate and organize.  Mastercoin dissolved and disappeared immediately thereafter.  
MasterCoin - BitCoin. See the difference. It was/is a different cryptocurrency and it doesn't matter if it was built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. 99% of current altcoins are tweaked versions of the Bitcoin code.

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Theymos simply destroyed Mastercoin because he personally didn't like it.  
I don't think he cared enough about it to dislike it.

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Theymos does like XT.  He considers everything outside his ideal - 'an Alt'.  So, he invokes a kind of censorship to bury those topics.  
He supports the Core side and that's his freedom to choose. He allowed for discussion of XT to remain in the forum. And if he doesn't want to host someone's bullshit on a forum that he owns or a subreddit that Reddit allowed him to control (as legally Reddit probably owns all subreddits), it's his damn business.
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It is a very dangerous part of our Bitcoin community that one man has his finger on the delete key and can silence large groups of people presenting important opinion - by merely declaring is 'Alts'.
He didn't delete XT threads on Bitcointalk, he moved them. And I've already expressed my opinion about Reddit.

And to finish off my post, here's a comic strip from xkcd.com:

3875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it just me or is everyone else sick of the block size debate? on: August 18, 2015, 07:52:38 PM
It's logical for any kind of major change, especially one that has several distinct sides with wildly different opinions, to trigger discussion, debate and complaints especially when coupled with influential Bitcoin community members taking different sides as well as expressing opinions or taking some sort of stance regarding the other side. However, if you feel you are tired of such debate and have nothing to add/correct/suggest, feel free to refer to my post I made on a trollish thread in Meta:

-snip-

Anyway, seems like the fork is drawing out the usual elements: trolls, extremists and sheep, that seem to drown any kind of legitimate discussion into one side screaming "CENSORSHIP", while the other one responding with "ALTCOIN". My stance on this debate:


3876  Other / Meta / Re: Guys, there is no censorhip. Stop crying ok? Here read this: on: August 17, 2015, 10:02:26 PM
That does not sound like theymos and from the looks of it, theymos did not say that (although he did say something similar on reddit).

I think his explanation was very good and well thought out and it probably wouldn't be a horrible idea for him to make a cross post on bitcointalk (here is what he actually said.)

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That does not sound like theymos and from the looks of it, theymos did not say that (although he did say something similar on reddit).
Sigh...  Undecided

-quote snip-

--- By Thermos.

-snip-


Anyway, seems like the fork is drawing out the usual elements: trolls, extremists and sheep, that seem to drown any kind of legitimate discussion into one side screaming "CENSORSHIP", while the other one responding with "ALTCOIN". My stance on this debate:

3877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / MOVED: [NEW ALGO][ICO][PRE-ANN]64BitPrimes[BPR] on: August 17, 2015, 09:40:05 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154817.0

Begging / Pointless thread.
3878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / MOVED: CryptoCircuits 中文 (Chinese ANN) on: August 13, 2015, 08:37:25 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152359.0

Not in english in an english board.
3879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Bitz developers workhorse on: August 13, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
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3880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MOVED: Double spend with zero transactions has been solved. on: August 13, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
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