I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive. Having read just the above 2 sentences, I already knew you were a religious fruitcake. Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real, And this is where I stopped reading and clicked your ignore button. Sorry. I wasn't trying to trample on your religion. I was simply pointing out some things in the beginnings of the first video. Boy, some of you atheists are touchy about your religion. And I suppose I would be about Christianity as well, if Christianity were simply based on blind faith. What I don't understand is how atheists can hang onto a religion that so constantly says "maybe," "possibly," "if," and all kinds of other limiting factors that show that nobody really has any kind of a clue about the foundations of the religion. You guys are distinctly admirable in your bravery, blind though it may be.  Atheism isn't really a religion but it still hinges on a sort of blind trust that all assumptions thus forth are logical and rational even if they themselves cannot rationalize it, which makes it just as contingent on this faith factor as religion. Seems to me that atheism is a sort of primitive religion. It has most of the things that are required for something to be termed a religion. Yet, unlike most modern religions - Christianity, Buddhism - there are certain parts of atheism that aren't expressed clearly, while other parts are expressed in detail, like dogma. I might compare the atheism religion to one of the more primitive cells in early evolution history. Christianity would be like a very specialized eye cell or brain cell. The prerequisites for atheism being a religion seem to be there. There is no proof that God exists; there is no proof that God does not exist. So, why believe God does not exist? There is no foundation for such a belief. This makes atheism, at the very least, very similar to a religion. |
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I am a biologist, but it doesn't help. Where life comes from is one of those central issues in science that still does not have an answer. I am at work and could not watch the videos. However, it sounds like the "primordial soup" idea. That is where a mix of complex molecules start a chain reaction that leads to a replication of the original state. That is what I learned in school, but I am no longer sure about. I say this because, although we have been able to make organic molecules by simulating the early Earth since the 1930s, we have failed to create life. Something else is going on also. I have no clue what it is, but my guess is that it involves physics that we don't understand yet. As far as we can tell, life on Earth is part of a single occurrence. Since then life has branched and evolved into countless varieties of the same phenomena. The differences between me and a tree are really trivial. We are just different expressions of the same molecule. Mind blown. I have watched the full first video now. And it seems, as I said in my first post above, that there is enough of an understanding of the primordial soup idea (although I didn't use the term "primordial soup" that is what it is about), that scientists are attempting to finally put together a plausible method that the whole process could have come about. Up until now, all the ideas that had been formulated, were ideas only. There wasn't any complete enough scientific evidence that provided a clear way that it could have happened. It seems that some scientists think that they have found a way that really might have worked, one that they can back up scientifically. Of course, without a time viewer or time machine, nobody can tell for sure if it happened this way. That's because there are too many variables that might have made things different than the way that they think it might have happened. Perhaps someday we might have a time viewer that we can use to actually use to take a look back. |
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I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive. Having read just the above 2 sentences, I already knew you were a religious fruitcake. Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real, And this is where I stopped reading and clicked your ignore button. Sorry. I wasn't trying to trample on your religion. I was simply pointing out some things in the beginnings of the first video. Boy, some of you atheists are touchy about your religion. And I suppose I would be about Christianity as well, if Christianity were simply based on blind faith. What I don't understand is how atheists can hang onto a religion that so constantly says "maybe," "possibly," "if," and all kinds of other limiting factors that show that nobody really has any kind of a clue about the foundations of the religion. You guys are distinctly admirable in your bravery, blind though it may be. |
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I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive. Throughout all of the language used, there permeates this "rope" - not a simple "thread" - that everything being talked about is uncertain. I think, so far, that the thing that they are looking for is a way to formulate a somewhat realistic idea of how life could have come about spontaneously, even though they don't have a clue if it happened this way or some other. In other words, up until now there have been all kinds of ideas about evolution. Some of the ideas make sense, and some of the ideas don't. Science is trying to combine enough of the ideas that make sense, in such a way that they will finally have a potentially possible working method for life to have spontaneously emerged. This working method won't be known to be the way that it happened, but rather, it will simply be one way that it almost for sure could have happened. This is a shot of hope in the arm for the atheist religion. Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real, could never be combined in a way that could plausibly have worked. In other words, all the possible paths that evolution could have come about, building itself from inanimate material to the life that we see around us today, were so full of holes that nobody could know if any of them were even possible. Well, it's a start. Gotta start somewhere. The first millimeter on a million mile trip. |
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You are so fuckin wrong dude.. all I have done is produce in a single thread, evidence that is splattered all over the world in front of your very eye's.. you break up my posts to highlight your nitpickin, but if you just put it all together one post after another, without interupting with your pointless bible bashing, you'd actually learn why and how your bible was created. Your just so lost in one book, you forgot to do the maths, despite the FACT this mathematical equation, being THE spiritual equation, would actually prove your god exists.. oh, you lik it now? Tough.. for it IS the evidence that god exists, if there was, is or will ever be any at all. you just want to insult people with your very mundane knowledge, thinking I'm trying to be god. No. All I have done is what you do, take what you need from said book, and use it to show the world. You however cant prove jack shit, because you have no mathematical data to back up any of your arguments, and this is why you or your book, cannot defeat me. For this maths is in your book, well hidden from people like you, and you'd have to actually know what your talking about just to realise I really am telling you the truth, not as I see it, but as is written into everything you, I, or anyone else, see's, hear's, or does. The fact that the twin tower's alone incorporate this very equation cannot be refuted by you or any mathematical einstein, in fact, I'd love to hear from anyone who knows, that when taking all the maths in this thread written by me, and placing them all together as one, that I am in fact correct.
The maths is of no interest to me, but once was.. look at your clock.. a 24 hour day represents the 240 feet you need to dig to find the tunnel that ends in a wall, which will become a wall of light when using the key of the seven days of the week. Each day of the week represents one of the seven chakras.. or seven inner sphere's (planets to you), the maths to prove all this is the magic squares, derived from the spiritual equation I just showed to all, and I know I aint the only one that knows this stuff, quite the opposite in fact, in fact, I'm surprised with our knowledge of the bible, you've never used a single mathematical equation that comes remotely near spirituality, showing your lack in faith in your book. You never were any good at joining the dot's were you? So your only defence is to insult. I only insult your character in order to get your attention and show you that the world aint gonna end, it's just gonna get very fuckin evil soon, as is showing already.. do we really need a book, when we'd be better off doin something about it?
Wake up dude, this thread HAS the evidence of the spiritual equation proving god's existance, but only when you understand the maths will you truely see the light. Dont question it, take it on faith.. I mean, if your suggesting I got your presidents to agree to the new twin tower.. now you know why I think your the one who's well and truely beyond insane. More people know what I have written than know the bible. This equation has lasted through 6 civilizations.. the bible only exists in this, the 7th..
Are you talking to me? It's difficult to see it if you are. Seems like you are talking back to your spirit guide or something, and half of what you say is its answers. Well, if it IS me you are talking to, thanks for explaining yourself. I'll stick to something that makes sense - the Bible. You must be fuckin deaf. Or blind. What I have written is for those with eye's to see, and ears to hear.. The spiritual equation wrote your fuckin book, get a fuckin life.. you like the bible but hate it's scource? Dumb fuck.. You know well and truely I been talking to YOU, and NO-ONE ELSE. The rest know what I'm saying, your just too fuckin dumb to know anything at all.. just keep on promoting the book that proves that the second coming is the devils son.. cant wait till you see it for real.. but you wont know the maths required to wire your brain up, to defeat the lord of whatever.. we are at the cusp of eternal hell.. thanks to your second coming.. promote wisely my friend.. For I know god cant do fuck all about it if there is a single person in existance that seperates a part of that god from himself. United we are god. Devided, we are you. Njoi. Take another gulp. Makes it easier for me to tell if you have changed who you are talking to. EDIT: I knew that. It's why the devil is lost. He already has lost a bunch of people. He will never have enough to become God. Stick with the original God. That's the only way you will have success. |
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And I will point out that no-one else is arguing against what I am writing.. ok, I could go about it your way, but then I'd be lost. Your Tarot cards came from this maths. Your electricity uses this maths in the guise of mercury, but your thinking of either the planet or the metal.. you dont even know that there are actually 12 squares when opening a box up to reveal the cross.. 6 you see, 6 you cant, all equal size's.. all I have done is show you the maths that will hopefully help you stop talking crap from the bible, and ACT on it.
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You are so fuckin wrong dude.. all I have done is produce in a single thread, evidence that is splattered all over the world in front of your very eye's.. you break up my posts to highlight your nitpickin, but if you just put it all together one post after another, without interupting with your pointless bible bashing, you'd actually learn why and how your bible was created. Your just so lost in one book, you forgot to do the maths, despite the FACT this mathematical equation, being THE spiritual equation, would actually prove your god exists.. oh, you lik it now? Tough.. for it IS the evidence that god exists, if there was, is or will ever be any at all. you just want to insult people with your very mundane knowledge, thinking I'm trying to be god. No. All I have done is what you do, take what you need from said book, and use it to show the world. You however cant prove jack shit, because you have no mathematical data to back up any of your arguments, and this is why you or your book, cannot defeat me. For this maths is in your book, well hidden from people like you, and you'd have to actually know what your talking about just to realise I really am telling you the truth, not as I see it, but as is written into everything you, I, or anyone else, see's, hear's, or does. The fact that the twin tower's alone incorporate this very equation cannot be refuted by you or any mathematical einstein, in fact, I'd love to hear from anyone who knows, that when taking all the maths in this thread written by me, and placing them all together as one, that I am in fact correct.
The maths is of no interest to me, but once was.. look at your clock.. a 24 hour day represents the 240 feet you need to dig to find the tunnel that ends in a wall, which will become a wall of light when using the key of the seven days of the week. Each day of the week represents one of the seven chakras.. or seven inner sphere's (planets to you), the maths to prove all this is the magic squares, derived from the spiritual equation I just showed to all, and I know I aint the only one that knows this stuff, quite the opposite in fact, in fact, I'm surprised with our knowledge of the bible, you've never used a single mathematical equation that comes remotely near spirituality, showing your lack in faith in your book. You never were any good at joining the dot's were you? So your only defence is to insult. I only insult your character in order to get your attention and show you that the world aint gonna end, it's just gonna get very fuckin evil soon, as is showing already.. do we really need a book, when we'd be better off doin something about it?
Wake up dude, this thread HAS the evidence of the spiritual equation proving god's existance, but only when you understand the maths will you truely see the light. Dont question it, take it on faith.. I mean, if your suggesting I got your presidents to agree to the new twin tower.. now you know why I think your the one who's well and truely beyond insane. More people know what I have written than know the bible. This equation has lasted through 6 civilizations.. the bible only exists in this, the 7th..
Are you talking to me? It's difficult to see it if you are. Seems like you are talking back to your spirit guide or something, and half of what you say is its answers. Well, if it IS me you are talking to, thanks for explaining yourself. I'll stick to something that makes sense - the Bible. |
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You see? That's the problem with you. You don't explain what you mean. And that's really okay, I guess, if that's the way you want it. "2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet produces a triangle witha height of 480 and a half feet...." What does that mean? And don't just call me an idiot for not knowing what you are talking about. Spell the explanation out. What do you have to do to "2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet" to get a "height of 480 and a half feet?" Before that, what is a circle of "approx 555 and a half feet?" Are you talking the diameter, radius, circumference, or something else? Are you talking a sphere and simply saying "circle" when you mean sphere? It's okay. You are free. You don't have to answer. But if you took out all your cussing and condemning of other people, and replaced it with what you really mean, you just might be saying something that is not gibberish.
2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet produces a triangle witha height of 480 and a half feet, or 280 cubit's, eah side = 755 feet, or 440 cubit's, with a perimeter of 3020 feet, or 1.746 cubits (height of origional twin towers, read my earlier posts on this part), A tetrahedron with a base angle of 51 degree's, 51 minute's, The circle'(s) of 555 and a half feet, have a circumference of 1.746 feet.
Your bible is nothing without the sacred grain of mustard seed. This is the 'old' proof of spirituality. What you have been shown in total, is THE maths behind every church. Behind every major structure you see today.. the pyramids.. stonehenge.. twin towers.. and not forgetting the new (twin) tower that had the extra 1.746 feet added onto 1.746 meters.. go on, tell me I'm as fucked as you.. I am giving you mathematical proof of spiritual existance, to deny this is to deny your soul. Not just YOUR soul, but the soul of jesus, AND god.. since it is in fact an ancient representation of their knowldge of fractals etc.. A fractal image akin to the russian doll within a doll within a doll, but you should stick with your bible, for you dont desrve to know why they build YOUR churches using this EXACT scientific equation. Even if I wanted to simply take your word for it, neither I nor anyone would have the foggiest about what you are speaking. So why say it? You want everyone to bow down to you as God, but you don't want to explain what you are doing to put your math together? You get funnier by the minute. |
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You see? That's the problem with you. You don't explain what you mean. And that's really okay, I guess, if that's the way you want it. "2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet produces a triangle witha height of 480 and a half feet...." What does that mean? And don't just call me an idiot for not knowing what you are talking about. Spell the explanation out. What do you have to do to "2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet" to get a "height of 480 and a half feet?" Before that, what is a circle of "approx 555 and a half feet?" Are you talking the diameter, radius, circumference, or something else? Are you talking a sphere and simply saying "circle" when you mean sphere? It's okay. You are free. You don't have to answer. But if you took out all your cussing and condemning of other people, and replaced it with what you really mean, you just might be saying something that is not gibberish.
2 circles of approx 555 and a half feet produces a triangle witha height of 480 and a half feet, or 280 cubit's, eah side = 755 feet, or 440 cubit's, with a perimeter of 3020 feet, or 1.746 cubits (height of origional twin towers, read my earlier posts on this part), A tetrahedron with a base angle of 51 degree's, 51 minute's, The circle'(s) of 555 and a half feet, have a circumference of 1.746 feet.
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The Bible is the written down record that contains the teachings of Christ. It also contains history, prose, records of what happens to people who do not follow the teachings of Christ, and lots of other things. What are you getting at? I have no proof of that book's integrity and I have repeatedly asked you for the same. Are you going to answer the OP's question about scientific proof??? The proof of the Bible's integrity comes from God, not man. And it only comes easily when the person is not denying God/Jesus. I know it is a difficult thing to go over a bunch of posts in a thread this large. So I will answer the question for you again. There is no scientific proof for God. At least not yet. However, the scientific evidence is for God way more than for anything else that we can think of/dream up. Go back over my posts in here, and you will find a lot of clarification, provided you don't take a lot of the wording on ultra-strict, literal meanings. Rather, try getting a feel for what is being said. Fuckin bam you really are, the book was written by freemasonry, hence my earlier masonic posts.. they created religion to destroy the all soul, knowing when we are united, god exists, devided (by religion) he falls, allowing for the second coming.. know ye not of asher, the 7th child of mog agorn? You know nothing of the reason atlantis and/or stonehenge was destroyed.. wanna know when jesus, you fool, last visited britain? I'll give you the fuckin dates, can your bible do that? NO. God CANNOT exist as long as you deny me. Not just me, but everyone else you use the bible to abuse with your twisted view of the truth. Only when you drop your book, for a moment, and unite with your enemies will god exist.. but your to proud to do so and now know why pride is a sin. Denying God and joining with ones enemies is exactly what the devil wants us to do, so that the "sea" of unbelievers that becomes the army of the dragon in the Revelation, will have as much strength that it can get to fight God when Jesus returns. |
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Do you guys have a step-by-step for the process of creation, or whatever way you think the universe came about? I'm not going to write it here, but I could easily paraphrase the steps from Genesis. Do you guys have an alternative process? The idea that evolution could do it is ridiculous on its face. Besides, like the ancient aliens idea, there still has to be a source and a process. Or don't you think so? |
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Everything I have posted the last few hours is directed at BADecker, who knows his book so well, he hides the FACT corinthians goes to 17, producing the REVELATION that the SECOND COMING is not of GOD's son, but the DEVILS.. This is why I deny your book. Now you KNOW the truth.. it's all fine and dandy when you can run from words spoken of by mere people like me, but when faced with the truth, the bolt hole is where I will find YOU, so I can drag you by the hair, kicking and screaming, to back me up, hoping your knowledge of the bible will cast this second coming down.
Nah, you'll divert him with your bullshit, in fact, I think you'll even call him the son of god.. oh how blind you are..
Do yourself a favour, look up corinthians 17..
Did you have a source for Corinthians 17? Or did you want me to go and search for it? It isn't in my copy of the Bible. EDIT: Your comment about "... kicking and screaming... " isn't as un-Scriptural as you might think. That's what the little kids do. And Jesus said that unless one is converted and becomes like a little child, he will never make it into Heaven. |
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The Bible is the written down record that contains the teachings of Christ. It also contains history, prose, records of what happens to people who do not follow the teachings of Christ, and lots of other things. What are you getting at? I have no proof of that book's integrity and I have repeatedly asked you for the same. Are you going to answer the OP's question about scientific proof??? The proof of the Bible's integrity comes from God, not man. And it only comes easily when the person is not denying God/Jesus. I know it is a difficult thing to go over a bunch of posts in a thread this large. So I will answer the question for you again. There is no scientific proof for God. At least not yet. However, the scientific evidence is for God way more than for anything else that we can think of/dream up. Go back over my posts in here, and you will find a lot of clarification, provided you don't take a lot of the wording on ultra-strict, literal meanings. Rather, try getting a feel for what is being said. |
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Jesus said, "I and the Father are One." That does not mean "I, Jesus, am God"; there is so much allegory in that book it would make your head asplode. Do you mean that maybe the Father isn't God? You don't give one shit what is really meant by "I and my Father are One." You only care about what is written in your book!! Yours is not Christian behavior but the mere denouncing of a brother efforting to find his God Truth. I have no proof of the Bible's integrity; Christ never wrote his teachings down in that book! How is it that you can call me "brother" when I denounce the writings you are speaking about, and when you denounce the writings (Bible) I believe in? |
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Oh boy.. to believe in the bible you all speak of is, quite simply, to be wrong. it's not in my heart, because it is crap, a watered down truth that allows the evil being carried out by those 'god' believers who build evil into every structure they create whilst FAKING beleif in god, proven by the fact they cant get his truth right, and slander the one person who produces the truth. Typical of braindamaged fools..
What I'd like to know, is that, if knowing that the second coming, written of in the bible is indeed that of the devils kid, what will you bible bashers do? Try to divert him with the same crap you sling at me? I know one thing, I'd be the only silly cunt standing up against the devil, whilst you lot run and hide in your wee caves.. you fuckin cowards, SHOWN, and now KNOWING the truth, and still running.. COWARDS.
When the devils son comes, what WILL you do?
FUCK ALL. SHIT BAGS.
Please be patient with me if I am answering presumptuously, since you are again not clear about to whom you are direction your comment, if anyone. Rhetorical? God doesn't force faith in Himself on anyone. One must be open to the possibility of God, and request (if only an indirect request) that God answer him. God answers everyone, heart to heart, who is sincere in such a request. Because of this, I understand how difficult it is for you to see the truth of all this. |
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Well, it wasn't your beliefs that I was referring to as foolishness. It was you believing them without comparing them with the Bible, and then not dropping them when you find that they didn't match the Bible. The Bible is not more important than God's WORD. The Bible is not more important than the authentic teachings of Christ. The Bible doesn't become God's Word for anyone until it gets into His heart through reading or hearing (I expect that would include braille for someone who is both, deaf and blind). The Bible is the written down record that contains the teachings of Christ. It also contains history, prose, records of what happens to people who do not follow the teachings of Christ, and lots of other things. What are you getting at? |
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... come on BADecker, where's your REAL bible?
Ah, finally a question that is directed at me (I think). Okay, in the even it is really directed at me, I'll humor you a little, and answer (and even if it is not directed at me). 1. I don't have a "REAL bible," because the closest thing to a "REAL bible" that I have is "bible" in caps = Bible; 2. In the event that it was a typo on your part (yeah, I hate having to go back and correct typos, too), then clarification is still needed because "Bible" can be understood in different ways, and I am not going to list them - can't type that fast, and probably would miss some anyway; 3. A person's REAL Bible is in his heart. Most of the people who read and study the Bible don't even realize this. Yet, that is the place that God talks to a person through His Word. The Bible is simply a method for making the connection. Biggest load of bollox I've read, if this is how you get out of supporting the devils son being born, go die quickly in your wee bolt hole, cause I know what I wrote re: revelations is the TRUTH, not some watered down crap that hides.. like you do. Wow! I guess you directed some of it at me after all. I'm not sure what you mean about me supporting the devil's son being born, but if you mean that I am trying to support the devil so that he will have a son, your thinking is a bit off. What do bolt holes have to do with any of this. That term isn't used any more... least not much. You are sort of a strange kind of person. Or is talking in riddles simply a fun thing that you do in life? |
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Jesus said, "I and the Father are One." That does not mean "I, Jesus, am God"; there is so much allegory in that book it would make your head asplode. Do you mean that maybe the Father isn't God? |
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The only way we receive life and power is through Jesus. So, focus on Jesus for the life and power that will come when God brings the new Heavens and new Earth into being and fulfillment. Jesus never attacked his brother. But He often casted demons out of people. Then, in mercy to some of them, he let them enter some pigs. But they simply killed the pigs by drowning them. BADecker, you stated that my beliefs were foolishness, but you never did investigate them; that is the height of ignorance and prejudice; Christ said judge not lest ye be judged, Okay??? Well, it wasn't your beliefs that I was referring to as foolishness. It was you believing them without comparing them with the Bible, and then not dropping them when you find that they didn't match the Bible. |
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... come on BADecker, where's your REAL bible?
Ah, finally a question that is directed at me (I think). Okay, in the even it is really directed at me, I'll humor you a little, and answer (and even if it is not directed at me). 1. I don't have a "REAL bible," because the closest thing to a "REAL bible" that I have is "bible" in caps = Bible; 2. In the event that it was a typo on your part (yeah, I hate having to go back and correct typos, too), then clarification is still needed because "Bible" can be understood in different ways, and I am not going to list them - can't type that fast, and probably would miss some anyway; 3. A person's REAL Bible is in his heart. Most of the people who read and study the Bible don't even realize this. Yet, that is the place that God talks to a person through His Word. The Bible is simply a method for making the connection. |
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