Plato may indeed have devised his Atlantis as a fictional land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis. Yet, the fact that he received the information through Solon, through Egypt, shows that there was a whole lot more to the tradition than he wrote about.

Plato designed a fictional story out of real, but incomplete, information that he received. When you look at the info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis, you will find that a whole lot of people throughout the years have found all kinds of references to ancient, lost civilizations. Some of these are from more recent ancient historical times. Other are from time long erased from the memory of modern mankind, and are known about only from the remains of the architecture located around the world.

As has been listed above, Graham Hancock is among those who are bringing a lot of this info to light - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPgIphDWGY&index=1&list=LL2SUmeAzu4qXRc5uQe4eZCw.

Among some of those others is Robert Klein, who has a web blog covering all kinds of information about all kinds of aspects of ancient civilizations, and all kinds of other things, as well - http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2012/09/cuban-subsea-pyramid-complex.html. At the right of his blog, a page or two down, is a Search box. Search on "Atlantis" for a list of 70 or 80 blog articles on Atlantis... stories about ancient archaeological finds from around the world.

A BIG part of the point is that, even though the ancient trading civilization that ruled the world in our prehistoric past may not have been called "Atlantis" around the world, it was INDEED there. Why don't modern scientists want to acknowledge this? Why do the universities constantly attempt to hide the info? Are they afraid that their whole system of ancient history which is a big joke will prove that they are stupid? Will this credibility loss cost them their place in the world of money?

Whatever the universities and their history books say, we are finding that our prehistoric past wasn't simply cavemen and low intelligence. We are seeing for a fact that our prehistory is one where people ruled the world in strength and power that rivals and even supersedes the power that we have today. Let's call it Atlantis, even though it has gone by many names in the ancient past. This way we will know what we are referring to - ancient powerful civilizations that once traversed, traded on, and ruled the whole world.



EDIT: http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/atlantisboliviapart1.htm.

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYbWOAofgU

How many fathers does he have?

LOL !   

We sit over here behind our computers. Ross is over there. Neither he nor his attorneys are trained in him just standing up and requiring the things I mentioned above ^^. Attorneys generally aren't trained that way. There is nobody he knows to trust besides his attorneys. There is nobody he will believe in who can get this info to him.

If he stands up as a man, not representing himself, but rather presenting himself (making himself as a man, present, rather than being represented by some made-up fictional Ross Ulbricht along with a bunch of attorneys), and requiring that his accuser take the stand and testify, he has it made. It, then becomes man to man. But... once he starts this, he has to maintain it throughout. And it has to be his accuser that he faces - the USA. Law does not let the accuser's attorney or representative take the accuser's place when a defendant stands as a man - man to man.

Laws are almost never presented in court. Only codes are. A defendant can't be tried as to understanding a code. Why not? Because he didn't write the code. He doesn't have understanding of what the authors meant when they wrote it. That's what the attorneys are for. So, if he stands alone, without his attorneys, as a man, present not represented by anyone, and they can't find his signature on the code like a contract, they can't make it apply to him, except if there is harm or damage - corpus delicti. And even then it is not the code that applies. It is the harm or damage.

They don't have a case against Ross the man. What they are trying to do is to get him to agree with them that he did wrong. Once he agrees that he did wrong, they have him. But, he didn't do wrong as a man, because there isn't anyone who was harmed or damaged... corpus delicti.

Study http://voidjudgments.com/ to see that I am right. It's all over the court cases and the law. What you as a man believe about your case is the thing that stands, except if there is corpus delicti. If they can get him to believe that he is guilty of something, he will admit to wrongdoing. Then it is all over for him. The whole court is a charade attempting to get him to admitting wrongdoing, thereby making himself guilty.

Further, basic law throughout the States requires that the plaintiff appear and take the stand to testify if the defendant so demands. The plaintiff in this case is the United States of America. It will never be able to take the stand and testify.

Further, basic law says that there must be harm or damage done. It is known as "corpus delicti." If the defendant requires it, the plaintiff must produce a person who was harmed with actual harm, or actual property damage that was done. Then they have to prove that the defendant did the harm or damage.

Further, they need a witness to the harming and/or damaging who will swear under oath that they observed that the defendant did it.

The whole court scene is designed to get the defendant to admit to guilt. Why? Because without that, if the defendant stands up and requires the above, government loses.

Further, if government loses, Ross can come back and demand a big settlement for everything they put him through, including return of his property, bitcoins, computer, etc.

The attorneys for the defendant are officers of the court. Their first allegiance is to the court, not to the defendant. The whole thing is a process to get the defendant to sign his life away rather than to stand up and require to face his accuser, the plaintiff, who must evidence some form of corpus delicti.

The court is a sham. It is a ripoff, designed to trick Ross into giving up.

Problem is, you have to reinforce forever. Stop the stimulus or conditioning, and everything reverts back to genetics. In addition, after long intervals the conditioning fails, except when it actually changes the DNA.

You're tryin' to say you are his father?   

That's why many American "publishings" get away with a whole lot more than Charlie H.

You are so good. Life IS meaningless. However, it is often fun. So, let's not go off and commit suicide. Rather, let's seek enjoyment. Pleasure doesn't last, so let's not seek pleasure, because when it is gone, there is a big let-down. Rather, let's seek simple enjoyment, enjoyment in friends and family, and even forum antagonists.

 

All so called evolutionary changes can be attributed to built in programming more easily than they can be attributed to evolution. At its core and base, evolution says that life came about by random, accidental change of some inanimate material into life. Nobody knows that this is what happened. Scientists haven't shown that this is what happened. They will not attest to knowing that this is what happened. That's why evolution is a theory. Nobody knows.

Even though this is true - you can find that this is true by looking at the basic scientific papers by those who have done the work - multitudes of people have decided that they want evolution to be true without proof, and without even the best evidence. They have their priests in the propagandists who lead the ignorant into believing in something that is not true and that has no foundation.

Believe the evolution BS if you want, but if you are true to self, check the basics of it. It is all built on "if" and "maybe" at its base and core. Evolution is a religion.

In other words, the reason Muslims hate other people is that the other people ask for it. Muslims don't always hate the people they kill. Sometimes they do it because it is orders from the Koran and their jihad cell.

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Hang the sketch, not the sketch makers.   

That's why there are a lot of slaves in Africa to this day.

Africa is a good opportunity for us all. Our slaves welcome us as long as we treat them right.

Southeast Asia and Japan have about a 10 point IQ average above Europeans. But the high IQ spikes are found among the Europeans. Possibly the only reason that the Southeast Asians have high IQs is their complicated language system. While European languages can be somewhat complicated, they are not insurmountable. This gives Europeans both, reasonably high IQ, and ease of operation so that they can advance faster.

If I wanted something practical, I'd get married. But this is way too poetic.

But most often they don't, or we'd mostly all be dead.

Thank you.   

The whole internet is important to me. My home computer is important to me. Without my home computer, I wouldn't be able to access the Internet as easily.

I use my home computer for other things. I empathize with people in their love/hate relationships with their own computers. Yet mine is mission critical to me.

Hey! I was talking in generalities. I don't have the system built. So, you work at Walmart. Your work hour is worth only 25% of a heavy machine operator's work hour. That's part of the way the system would operate.

A person would be a number in the system. He would be an encrypted address. His labor would be coded regarding the value that his employer uploaded to his address from the company he worked for.

After awhile, the way things are rated might change. Job pay scales might become more equal. Until it happens, we won't know what will happen real world. At least at the beginnings of it, people will still use fiat and bitcoin - Bitcoin is a form of fiat.



EDIT: When you check the airlines for prices on the Net, most are at least a little different. Direct value relationships can be also, even for the same product traded in different locations.

In the evolution religion, survival of the fittest reigns as god. Therefore, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, as long as his thinking isn't overcome by someone stronger than he. By this kind of thinking, this thread is informative. But it isn't the thing that rules the world. In fact, it is way lower than money in strength, except when it combines itself with money.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...



EDIT: Look, if evolution is the truth, and money exists, then money is part of evolution. Perhaps at some other time in the future, chicken-life will reign as the strongest of the fittest... if evolution exists, that is.

With an operation like BitcoinTalk, or any other well-funded operation, this might be doable. But can the little guy (gal) afford this for their home computer? What exists for the little people?