I know how to read quite well.  Why would Bitmaintech honor your refund if they have shipped out already?

Also, you may want to capitalize sentences once in awhile to be taken seriously in this forum.

Great post!   

Any evidence to backup your "factual statement"?

Hate to be that guy, but how do you keep spelling it Zues when it says Zeus right on the link you posted?

Hate to be the spelling nazi, but not once or twice, you mispelled Zeus three times!   

Dude, you just wasted 1 minute of my life reading this thread.

If you knew they shipped already, why post this drivel.

If miner costs and electrical costs aren't a factor, cooling, space yada yada then it doesn't get more dense than the SP30, SP31, SP10, and the forthcoming SP20 and SP35 form Spoondoolies Tech.



Probably the least dense miner or at least worst form factor is the Butterfly Monarch:

I think OP really meant Hot and Cold wallets.

Simple 2 cent answer.  Hot wallet is on a mobile device like a phone, Trezor, tablet, laptop or web wallet like Blockchain etc. that's always connected online.

Cold wallet can be a printed paper wallet, physical bitcoin, USB key, or hard drive not connected online.

Just stick to Bitcoins if you're serious about Cryptocurrency, and are in it for the long haul.

If you want to have a little fun, play the market with a few bucks, try trading those alt coins on https://www.cryptsy.com/

Just use http://preev.com/ and punch in 0.00011227 in there.

5 cents WOOHOO, rollin in it SUCKAZ!!!   

Brian, you might also want to state how much you're willing to invest and potentially lose.  Basically what's your current budget and are you willing to re-invest in more hardware to keep up with difficulty jumps.

Also, you'd probably want to state what's your current electrical costs.  Mining at home is essentially dead, especially if you have costs over $0.10 k/WH.

Make sure you read over Dogie's guide like DrG said, but also if you're small timer or home miner investing say $1000 or less, know going in you'll never make that $1000 back.  If you accept that going in, then you're just mining for fun, education, and hobby.  If you're looking for ROI or profit, you'll need free/cheap electric and need to run something like this:

I'm not comparing the quality of the products or each release.  If you hate certain companies or operating systems, that's just your opinion.

Fact of the matter is, technology progresses over time, and in theory at least, the next version builds upons and improves the former.

No way can Bitcoin can stay stagnant without further development, bug fixes, and innovation.  You think someone is going to wait in a Starbucks for a single cup of coffee for 1 or 2 confirmations if they paid using their mobile phone wallet?  Especially with Apple Pay simplifying mobile pay, competing technologies have to step up.

Bitcoin is still crawling, we need it to walk, talk, and eventually run, from this Beta/Toddler phase.

This is one long auction!  Started in June, now we're in September.

Charles99, you're better off just selling it in the Goods/Computer Hardware sub forum for the best offer, there tends to be alot more buyers of equipment in there.  Don't think this auction is going anywhere for you.

In what world is Dogecoin a good investment?



Stay away from alts people, they're all pump and dump schemes, the penny stocks and pink sheets of the Cryptocurrency world...

Exactly.  We're effectively in Beta, as current Bitcoin Core version is 0.9.2.1.

We're in very early days, so I don't think we'll see Bitcoin's true potential for another few years.

Bitcoin 2.0 spells the end of Bitcoin.

It's inevitable.  HTML5.  IE7,8,9,10,11,12.  Android Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jelly Bean, KitKat.  Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 9.  OSX Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite.

Bitcoin will end, it's just a matter of when the next iteration of it will be developed.  All of it's core properties intact, but with none of it's shortcomings.  Like all technology, it will evolve eventually.

No no no, not Tulips, you mean Nigerian Princes.  I never got an email about Tulips, only a young fellow from Nigeria that wanted me to wire him some coins as an advance, before he hooked me up with more coin later.  That Nigerian prince is the bomb!  

Worse case compare BTC to magic beans, as they can magically create a giant beanstalk where after climbing it you can get a bag of gold after trading in your cow or home mortgage.

Don't see anything, all your links show [Suspicious link removed].

Provide a link to the website, if the IMG tags don't work.



Edit:  I see the updated post with pics now, thanks Gordon!

You know the drill already.  If Dogie or another senior member doesn't have at least a review unit, they fugazi.

As the saying goes, "Proof is in the pudding".

No miners are worth it at the moment.  Not Knc, not Spondoolies, not Bitmain, etc..

Unless you have free electricity or cheap electrical costs under $0.10 k/WH it's not worth it.  You would have to compete against the likes of this to gain profit:



If you choosing just get BTC's for a few hundred or a few grand even, just buy it out right, it's more than you'd ever mine back with the miner/electrical/cooling investment.

Faucets no longer, as the amount you get for the effort, amounts to BTC dust.

You could spend hours and hours trying to collect money from those faucets, and it'd amount to a few pennies.

Not worth the effort or time sink.

This is pretty repulsive by Black Arrow.  To not only not meet shipping deadlines, lie about compensation, constantly deny any wrongdoing, use customers preorder money to fund other operations like their Scrypt product, ship miners way off their proposed performance mark, ship faulty fire hazard X-3s, now this!

Deleting over 100 pages of comments to try and cover up the long con...conniving bastards.