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LOL. I dont even know who Mircea is. Is that MPOE-PR with the fat chick avatar? The one with the porn site?
Anyway, Diablo spewed the same crap you are spewing now. Instead of focusing on his business and taking advice and clarifying things to his investors, he went in total denial and while he was burning DMC to the ground, accused me and everyone else that spoke sense that they were trolling, needed a scammer tag, that I was the same person as some 15 other posters who were all arguing against him. I dont believe anyone posted anything there because anyone paid them to do it, but only because Diablo was screwing up, fucking his investors either through gross incompetence or possibly fraud. It didnt help that at the same time, he was being unbelievably arrogant.
Sound familiar?
Thats the parallel usagi; you only came to my attention when you flipped 180 degrees on Diablo and for 5BTC agreed to screw over his shareholders and defend his stealing from his investors. Its only then that I started paying any attention to you and your business, and noticed, that while slightly less extreme, you too are screwing up and fucking your investors either through incompetence or possibly fraud, while being incredibly arrogant about it. One might be excused to think you and diablo are one and the same.
But whether its you, Diablo, Obsi, PatrickHarnett, Goat, Hasking, Ziggystar, Pirate or anyone else, I will not sit idly while leeches blow hot air to inflate GLSBE bubbles with other people's coins, take a profit for themselves before their bubbles collapse, robbing their investors and killing this economy.
Now unlike Diablo, you can keep up the good news show parade for a little longer perhaps, but the numbers dont lie, anyone can do the math. No one needs to pay me to bring stuff like that to light, I will do it for free with pleasure.
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Even if he ever runs of with my bitcoins, it will still have been worth it just for the coins.
That they also happen to be worth 1 or 5 BTC is of less importance to me. Just something to have and give and it will probably never be redeemed.
Id feel differently with the higher nomination coins.
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Im guessing thats why usagi is doing it.
First it deflects from the much more important issues regarding his assets, as relevant posts with serious concerns and revealing numbers quickly get buried under these juvenile "liar - troll - scammer" discussions that no one cares about. And judging by BMF, Nyan.B and Nyan.C trades on GLSBE, that actually works.
Secondly I imagine it also helps devalue the seriousness of a scammer tag or accusation for the day someone decides usagi's accounting is more than just "creative". Now you may say no one cares about these tags, but I only partially agree. It doesnt really matter if someone like pirate gets it after the fact, but it does matter for someone who still actively soliciting funds and/or running assets on GLBSE or elsewhere.
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I assume it will take a few days to acquire the card, so lets say saturday, october 6th for your first payment?
Then every saturday, if thats okay by bitcoininv?
If you are late by more than 2 days, I will expect a late fee. Not sure whats reasonable there, dont want to put it so high it turns in to a shark loan, but not too low that you wouldnt care. Suggestion?
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You first. What's your real name?
Im not aware of Vampire holding 1000's of other people's BTC. Turning this around is just silly. And I dont know what this is doing in "my" thread. Vampire, Im the one on trial here for being a serial liar and scammer, dont steal my limelight  |
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I will pm you an email address to send that stuff to. If it checks out, I will ask for a btc address.
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You mention 1-2 months, lets say 2 BTC per week (1 BTC to each lender) for 7 weeks?
That is if BitcoinINV is okay with 14 BTC return.
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You idiot. I've also pointed out several references of your lies to Theymos in PM.
Oh, thats how it works? Secret evidence, is this a grand jury trial lol? Fine, I guess Theymos will provide me with your list of "lies" and the evidence that Im corrupt, and once thats cleared you will be man enough to apologize publicly. |
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BTW, the thread title mentions libel. Now I dont know if libel should warrant a scammer tag or not, but not only has usagi failed to demonstrate any libel on my part, he is IMO quite guilty of libel himself. Anyone can call me an idiot, a sockpuppet or troll, and I dont really care, but there is a line somewhere, and he crossed it: This guy is a liar and he's attempting to manipulate the stock price. I have it on good authority he is being paid to do so. He needs to be removed from this board permanently. This is NOT the only example of Puppet lying.
Thats a pretty serious accusation in my book, and 100% baseless. When asked to back that up, I drew a blank of course, only more of the same accusations: I'm just really suprised theymos won't ban you for outright lying about people over, and over, and over..... There's more lies in what you just wrote than there are fingers on my hand.
First of all, you've been caught in several outright lies recently, which is why you are being called out for a scammer tag on the scammer tag forum.
The latter is true of course, but I am still waiting for any shred of evidence of any single lie I would have uttered, let alone evidence of me being paid to spread misinformation. I hereby request a formal retraction and apology from usagi. |
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Meh. What the hell, I'll do half the loan if you find someone else.
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Im trying to understand what Im being accused of here. Is my math wrong? Are those numbers incorrect? Do you own a copyright to that picture? I picked those number because you proudly pronounced on IRC that by buying back 10 of your own shares you had pushed up the price 0.1 BTC. I laughed at you because you thought it was actually meaningfull. One week and 16000 repurchased shares later and now its clear how meaningless it was. Now, you mention your letter to shareholders, I could have used that too. Your words: "The shining stars are now CPA, which has doubled in valuation to 0.0613 since last week, and BMF which has now jumped to an average price of .5901. "
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97178.msg1213796#msg1213796So let use that. You announced an aggressive repurchase plan because you felt your shares where undervalued. Here is what happened: 52500 x 0.063 = 3307 three weeks later: 36160 x 0.034 =1229 What was your point again? Oh right, the reason I actually posted that in the first place: Hello! I'd like to make a quick announcement.
The CPA buyback has been a smashing success! ROFL |
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First of all, you've been caught in several outright lies recently, Where? Put up or shut up. which is why you are being called out for a scammer tag on the scammer tag forum.
LOL. You started that thread, so far no one agrees and everyone agrees that what I posted is 100% factually correct. Considering its first grade arithmetic, that shouldnt come as a suprise. You need to tell your paid sockpuppets to give you some support there, so we know who they are. Thats going to be very convincing, considering how many of those shares are controlled by you. I guess you will vote no? |
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ROFL. So its usagi thats paying trolls. Nice. I guess that explains why there are one or two posters here defending the indefensible.
Tell me more. Please explain to me, where all the trolls are that I hired? Oh i'm sorry, they were actualy hired by someone else to attack me. Nice smokescreen. You dont get to make gratuitous accusations about my integrity when all I have posted so far are provable facts and reasonable opinions (which have panned out 100% so far). I stand by each and every one of them, I can back them all up. Can you ? I bet you cant. So point out my lies or apologize. Provide evidence that anyone is paying me to post or apologize. Back up or shut up usagi. |
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f anybody can help shed some light on the issue of usagi allegedly investing BMF funds into non-mining operations, I would appreciate that.
Let me help; here is the contract: https://glbse.com/asset/view/BMFHere is BMFs portfolio: http://tsukino.ca/bmf/holdings-nav/Note that obsi.hrpt has nothing to do with mining, and its hard to defend Nyan being a mining asset. One could even point out the contract doesnt allow for usagi to buy mining hardware. Now personally, I wouldnt give someone a scammer tag over something like this. However, if you are looking for a better reason, I would suggest you look at this post: The NAV of BMF is approximately 0.50. We will be placing aggressive bids at .45 to .50. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112734.0Those are demonstrably lies. First of all, the highest bid is currently 0.4104. Secondly, if you calculate the NAV using usagi's published asset list here: http://tsukino.ca/bmf/holdings-nav/After you correct the prices and you list the fpga and asics at actual list value and not 20% above BFLs listprice, I got to 0.262 BTC per share at the time it was posted: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112734.msg1219660#msg1219660Meanwhile he has been buying up some of those shares causing the nav to rise to ~0.3, but it was never anywhere near 0.5 BTC and saying that was a big fat lie intended solely to mislead potential investors, and talk the price up because his Nyan bonds are heavily invested in BMF and in big trouble. I suspect the wannabee lawyers here will have an opinion on whether or not thats even criminal. FWIW, here is an up to date NAV: Units Value (Market) Total (Market) %
Bitforce Single 832 MH/s 2 50 100 7.49%
BitForce Jalapeno 3.5 GH/s 2 15 30 2.25%
BitForce 'SC' Single 40 GH/s 1 108.25 108.25 8.11%
Assets Units Value (Market)
GIGAMINING 0 0 0.00%
BITBOND 10 0.3351 3.351 0.25%
PUREMINING 0 0 0.00%
YABMC 0 0 0.00%
DMC 1291 0.01 12.91 0.97%
BTC-MINING 300 0.9598 287.94 21.57%
RSM 210 0.29 60.9 4.56%
JAH 410 0.12 49.2 3.69%
7 11 0.115 1.265 0.09%
ABM 200 0.125 25 1.87%
BMMO 3775 0.02 75.5 5.66%
MERGEDMINING 0 0 0.00%
BTCMC 170 0.4 68 5.09%
BFLS.RIG 200 0.55 110 8.24%
UDN 1000 0 0.00%
LTC-MINING 50 0.415 20.75 1.55%
FPGAMINING 300 0.3355 100.65 7.54%
OBSI.HRPT 1000 0.0589 58.9 4.41%
JTME 120 0.789 94.68 7.09%
ASICMINER 0 0 0.00%
BIF.5-10.MININGBOND 120 0.33 39.6 2.97%
NYAN 24 0.5 12 0.90%
BAKEWELL 330 0.1489 49.137 3.68%
BTC-BOND 4800 0.002 9.6 0.72%
0 0.00%
BITCOINS 17.2457 1 17.2457 1.29%
TOTAL 1334.8787 100.00%
1334 BTC worth of assets (even assuming obsi's ponzi is worth face value, its not like you can sell it) for 4585 bonds. Thats 0.29 BTC/bond |
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ROFL. So its usagi thats paying trolls. Nice. I guess that explains why there are one or two posters here defending the indefensible.
Unfortunately for usagi, trolls cant change the grim reality. And that reality is, if you calculate Nyan.A nav with latest prices, even when generously assuming the obsiponzi and other delisted ponzis are still worth anything, you get a total of 1075 BTC or 0.71 per share. That means a shortfall of ~426 BTC will have to be ponied up by nyan.B
When you calculate nyan,b's current nav, you get 1345 BTC or 0.73 BTC per share, That means its already 496 BTC short of its 1 BTC target. But since it will have to compensate for Nyan.A too, its really 496+426= 922 BTC short. Ouch.
Nyan.C's total nav is 495 BTC (on paper at least, in reality most of it is already worthless unsaleable and delisted rubbish). So even if its assets gets transferred entirely, Nyan.B is still 400+ BTC short.
TL;DR, Nyan C will be worth zero and optimistically, Nyan.B will still have a NAV of only 0.77.
If you think thats bad, if you write off the obsi and V.HRL shit as you probably should, and you mark BMF at nav (~0.3) instead of usagi's manipulated price, it really gets really grim. In this scenario, Nyan.A has only 873 worth of assets or 0.58 per share. A shortfall of 628 BTC.
Under the same scenario, Nyan.B has 949 worth of assets, if you deduct the Nyan.A shortfall there is only 321 BTC left, 0.17 BTC per share. Add everything from Nyan.C and it gets to 0.34 BTC/share.
Ouch Ouch.
OH, and before usagi starts calling me a liar again, do the math and decide who is lying.
(oh, and I didnt even factor in any feedback loops. Nyan losing value like that will impact CPA and BMF nav, which will further depress nyan's NAV).
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Dividends isnt the reason. When usagi requested a loan, saying it was needed to grow CPA business and get more insurance contracts ("We have contracts on the table that we can't sign because we can't back the assets yet."), Verifiable fact. Its a direct quote. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110122.msg1216124 I predicted the coins would instead be used for this: Verifiable fact. I just linked the evidence. The reasoning is as simple as it is flawed; because of the circular ownership of usagi's companies, any loss (or gain) in NAV in any of them has a leveraged effect on all of them.
Simple factFor instance, Nyan B holds a large amount of CPA shares. If CPA price goes down, it hurts Nyans NAV, which in turn costs CPA because it both owns and insures NYAN. And so you get a downward spiral, since a further lowering of CPA value again hurts Nyan.
Verifiable fact. Evidence in your own financial reports. The same is true for BMF <> Nyan <> CPA.
Verifiable fact. Evidence in your own financial reports. So rather than let the market decide what the assets are worth, usagi discovered that with such low market depth, you can easily manipulate prices - at least briefly. He proudly announced he doubled CPA market valuation by buying 1 BTC worth of shares.
Verifiable fact. Need the link? That sounded like a plan, but of course it, didnt last very long.
Verifiable facthttps://glbse.com/asset/view/CPAHe spent at least 500 BTC (most of it loaned at 100+% APR) with no real effect on share price. Verifiable facthttps://glbse.com/asset/view/CPA |
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