Why do I like America? Because it is built so that I can change it whenever I start not liking it a little.  |
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Hence the thought experiment of which works better. You can include any placebo effects you want and consider them a success. It doesn't change the result. 700 years ago in Europe as I'm sure you are well aware, 1/3 of the population died of this disease despite trying all manner of religious and magical incantations, prayers, etc. Today? As long as you have access to a modern hospital it is easily cured, but you won't even get it in the first place because modern medicine did overnight what thousands of years of magic couldn't do and the disease has been virtually eradicated.
Anyways, pleasure having this discussion with you, but I think we have both said pretty much all we can really say for our respective sides. Cheers.
This isn't completely accurate. Many things might be cured by the science of modern medicine. Yet, one of the things that isn't cured is greed. People, by nature, want to stave off death as long as possible. They look to modern medicine. Yet it isn't modern medicine that has the longest living people in the world. As an example, modern medicine can cure malaria, although it is difficult. MMS, for less than pennies on the dollar, cures malaria in one day. Yet modern medicine won't even test it, although it is curing all kinds of diseases around the world. http://mmsnews.is/Could it be that placebo effect in the greedy helps them overcome the greed disease just long enough for them to figure out how to make more money? I said I wouldn't comment anymore but since you could potentially kill someone I will chime in one last time. No, drinking bleach will NOT cure malaria. It has been studied (though really, common sense should answer this question for you) and does not in any way cure malaria except in the cases where it kills the patient. The ONLY study ever done that indicated it was a cure for malaria was does by the person selling the stuff (and you have the balls to mention greed lol). This is a prime example of what I mentioned earlier. People like you start with the conclusion, and then any evidence that contradicts your conclusions are thrown out. Obviously you won't get results that way (as evidenced by the complete failure of magic at curing disease) and this is why people like you hate the scientific method. It isn't sufficient to simply declare something true, you have to be able to prove it, which is impossible when your entire premise is simply made up. Activated MMS is chlorine dioxide, a mild industrial bleach. It is often used in small quantities to disinfect water. This has been done for a hundred years or more. See what DuPont has to say at: http://www2.dupont.com/Chlorine_Dioxide_Solutions/en_US/index.html?src=gg_clo2_na_chlorine-dioxide-water-purification : Chlorine Dioxide Solutions
DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide is a safe and highly effective substitute for chlorine. Used by consumers for deodorization and disinfection purposes, and by the oil and gas industry for petrochemical applications, DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide quickly kills a broad spectrum of organisms, purifying water and providing antibacterial properties. For over 60 years, DuPont has been providing innovative solutions in chlorine dioxide technologies and applications. When you Google "chlorine dioxide" you will get all kinds of sites, most that have good things to say about it, and some that have bad things to say. As I said, MMS costs less than pennies on the dollar to buy when compared with modern medicine. Yet it does some things that modern medicine won't even touch. The interesting thing is that you can make it at home so inexpensively and easy, that any price for ingredients is virtually negligible. Part of the point is that the guys who are promoting it aren't making any profit off it at all. They are working off donations. The charges that they have for seminars are to cover expenses. I'm not going to go through lots of research stuff here. The little I have said is enough to get you off and researching if you want. There is one thing that I will mention, however. When you look up MMS in Wikipedia, the way it is explained is different than the way it is made and used. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone who wants to take the time to edit it. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to edit MMS in Wikipedia so that it looks bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement |
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It costs a lot of money to get good paper for most countries. Unless you have a few thousand bitcoin most countries won't accept you as a citizen. Even the cheap countries you need a few hundred btc.
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It's my body, I can do whatever I want with it. That includes poking you in the eye too you bastard.
Never realized what a lovely finger you have, until I saw it this close up.  |
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My counter argument is that little $1200 milling, drilling machine that makes me a private, unregistered lower receiver for all kinds of guns. I would have called it my "table argument," but I am running it on my counter.  |
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Oh, you just had to, didn't y......... Wait! Hold that thought. This post was supposed to come after your response to my previous post. eh..... I'll finish it up later, after you respond. |
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Many people can vegetables. Some can fruit. Does iCan can meat? |
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This is a great question. One responds with the truth by stating facts.
All I ever wanted was for you to back up your claim that the Bible is an impossible book. Actually, what you were really trying to claim is that "the Bible is the only written word of God". I had asked you to back that up!
When BADecker refused, that is when I went on the prowl, chased him, and took him down, along with his dogma.
I hope you're not implying that you're the one responding with truth. You aren't. Your threads intentionally avoid logic, and you make no indication that you want to learn why your arguments carry absolutely no weight.
All of your posts in this entire thread could have been summed up as "I believe in the Bible, no matter what" and it would carry just as much weight as everything else you've said. Actually, it would carry *more* weight because it would be one of the only factual things that you've stated.
Now, children. I know it hurts a little when you find out that there isn't much (if any) substance to the things that you believe. But YOU ARE ALIVE! You have the opportunity to shake your childishness off, and to move ahead in the direction of REAL TRUTH. Don't fail me now. I have pointed you in the direction where you can find TRUE life, and love, and fulfillment. Grab hold of the things I have shown you. Run with them. LIVE! There were those in this forum who told me it was useless to try to save you. Others suggested that I was only casting my pearls before the swine. But rather than simply accept their words, I pressed on, in the hopes that I could somehow show some of you the way. And I have succeeded with some. Don't fail yourselves, now... now that you are so close to finding out the truths of the Bible. Jesus would love to have you with Him in His kingdom. Throw off the foolishness of your childish ways, and grow up into eternal life! |
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There is no proof that the Bible is the only printed word of God.
If you question BADecker on the integrity of the Bible, he will freak out because you are attacking his dogma.
BADecker is not willing to discuss anything that could contradict his dogma, and he likes it that way.
Decksperiment wrote several pages trying to get this point across, among others...
Huwt youw itty, bitty, feewings, did I? I pierced your dogma. Life is about, at times, feeling comfortable. So, since I am not adverse to you feeling comfortable, I won't object to your statement. But, so that I feel comfortable, neither will I accept it. No need to blindly accept what I say; do your own thinking, and consider the FACT that Jesus never put pen to paper, that Paul never was a "follower of Christ", that Creationism cannot actually explain the anomalies mentioned. Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality. But existence exists; reality is not to be wiped out, it will merely wipe out the wiper. By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?” You can hardly feel good about yourself if you are wandering around in a self-induced mental fog.Does somebody pay you to write this stuff? No amount of smileys will hide the fact that you are extremely sensitive to this subject matter and result to passive aggression when you no idea how to respond to someone. The idea is to get people to be saved, even atheists, even new agers. Jesus suffered a lot on the cross that day. He did it for me. He did it for you. He did it for everyone. He doesn't want anyone to be lost. How does one respond with the truth while, at the same time, not alienate? bl4kjaguar might be lost, but the fact that he is still answering shows that there is hope. Notice that his answers don't have much of a thread of logic to them. But he still tries. There is still hope. |
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Hence the thought experiment of which works better. You can include any placebo effects you want and consider them a success. It doesn't change the result. 700 years ago in Europe as I'm sure you are well aware, 1/3 of the population died of this disease despite trying all manner of religious and magical incantations, prayers, etc. Today? As long as you have access to a modern hospital it is easily cured, but you won't even get it in the first place because modern medicine did overnight what thousands of years of magic couldn't do and the disease has been virtually eradicated.
Anyways, pleasure having this discussion with you, but I think we have both said pretty much all we can really say for our respective sides. Cheers.
This isn't completely accurate. Many things might be cured by the science of modern medicine. Yet, one of the things that isn't cured is greed. People, by nature, want to stave off death as long as possible. They look to modern medicine. Yet it isn't modern medicine that has the longest living people in the world. As an example, modern medicine can cure malaria, although it is difficult. MMS, for less than pennies on the dollar, cures malaria in one day. Yet modern medicine won't even test it, although it is curing all kinds of diseases around the world. http://mmsnews.is/Could it be that placebo effect in the greedy helps them overcome the greed disease just long enough for them to figure out how to make more money? |
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Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion: Why Materialism is not the AnswerPublished on Jun 13, 2014 Since 1981, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake has been researching morphic fields - his hypothesis about form-giving, immaterial fields which serve as a kind of blueprint for creation. Although he succeeded to find more and more evidence supporting his case, his hypothesis has been mainly rejected by the mainstream scientific community. In his lecture "The Science Delusion", Sheldrake points out several scientific dogmas which prevent science from overcoming its materialistic world view... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog See what happens to any science professional that abandons standard science rhetoric? The scientific community cuts them off. Note Rupert Sheldrake in this TED Talk video that has been removed from TED Talks for being against modern science. He can't even afford shoes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg |
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Let me say it like this: Evolution offers science some handles for investigation. God doesn't because God is "outside of the sphere" of what science has any way of handling. And yet, Darwinists, Creationists and Intelligent Design proponents are unable to explain anomalies in the emergence of domesticated plants, animals and humans. http://www.whale.to/b/pye1.htmlObviously you missed the part about the devil deceiving Adam and Eve, thereby causing sin to come into the world, and changing everything. I wonder if he (the devil) is your writer. |
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Images Quote from interview: - Oh, who are these people on the portraits?
- People who held the position of prosecutor general 1933.
- Um, there are no women.
- Well, now there is. The old ways DO work. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, etc., they all work. But there seems to be something that makes the USA work better. What is it? Russian government is copying the USA, hoping that by copying, they can become as strong. That's why we see women in office in Russia, like they never were in the past. Is this the thing that will make Russia stronger? Or is there something else? Maybe there is an attitude among the people of America that isn't in the Russians. It certainly isn't the land factor. Russia probably has way more natural resources than the USA. What could the difference be? Even though things of the old school work, could there be some kind of flaw in the basic thinking of Russian government that will never let them become quite as powerful as America? Has the Russian government recognized this, and are they truly making changes within? Or are they simply pushing the changes into the open while remaining in tight-fisted control behind the scenes? |
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There is no proof that the Bible is the only printed word of God.
If you question BADecker on the integrity of the Bible, he will freak out because you are attacking his dogma.
BADecker is not willing to discuss anything that could contradict his dogma, and he likes it that way.
Decksperiment wrote several pages trying to get this point across, among others...
Huwt youw itty, bitty, feewings, did I? I pierced your dogma. Life is about, at times, feeling comfortable. So, since I am not adverse to you feeling comfortable, I won't object to your statement. But, so that I feel comfortable, neither will I accept it. No need to blindly accept what I say; do your own thinking, and consider the FACT that Jesus never put pen to paper, that Paul never was a "follower of Christ", that Creationism cannot actually explain the anomalies mentioned. Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality. But existence exists; reality is not to be wiped out, it will merely wipe out the wiper. By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?” You can hardly feel good about yourself if you are wandering around in a self-induced mental fog.Does somebody pay you to write this stuff? |
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Well that all goes back to republic, and bill of rights. This is the exact reason states waited YEARS no kidding to sign the constitution until the bill of rights was added. Do you honestly think the founding fathers would agree with all of our laws? I mean I do understand some and I am not a milita type person but fuck.... it just like whatever the fuck D.C says we comply and that is NOT WHAT THE US WAS built on. It was built on states rights, which we have little to none now with out retribution which is not what the U.S was founded on. The Goverment only started implying these lays last cent during war time. When people were scared just like 9/11 patriot act it sounds great at the time right unti your being tapped and got some stupid crazy conspiracy for thinking about hating america. https://lockerdome.com/6655936957919553/7161826458869268I dont think its the whole story but still lmfao, Shit is crazy the US is becoming a gov controlled state like socialist countries and people agree with it.... Bill of Rights was icing on the cake. Bill of Rights was basically for the States. Bill of Rights has nothing to do with the rights of the People. And by "People" I mean the people who are among those who are controllers of government... ALL OF US who look at it that way and are not citizens of. You can be domiciled on the land without being a citizen of. I gave you those links, above, so that any time that you feel like you want to learn the stuff that government is trying to hide from the people so they can keep people in slavery, you can go and learn. To see the story in a clearer format, watch the videos/listen to the audios that you find here - http://1215.org/ . Did you ever try to learn a second language? It may have been fun and exciting to try. But it was also a little daunting, wasn't it? Yet, once you had learned it, the whole thing seemed easy, and you wondered why you fretted so much in the first place. Learning the basics of how law works is a bit like this. You might go over the info a hundred times with no results. All of a sudden it kicks in. In this case, it kicks in freedom. This is a time in American history that as many people as can understand need to understand. If we don't, we will become the dictatorial state that it appears that we have already. Don't be deceived. We have not gotten there yet. There still is hope. I wish I had this stuff years ago. It would have saved me a whole lot of grief in life. Umm I have a M.A in US history lol, so yea I read a bunch of facts, anything I read/see on youtube is hogwash. PROVE IT. Yes I speak french, no I can not read it with out help. I worked for special forces I know most of your " thoughts" about the US gov to be not true. It is not what you think lol. I have TSC, my pops has TSC, and my step mom has SC. Don't make your self a ass with crazy US gov type things lol. Most of the time it is what it is... maybe with a little extra salt and pepper you do not know about but the jist of it is right. To many camera's to get away with super seceret black op type shit lol. EX "TCS top level clearance, SC is seceret" I come form a long line of Marines and Naval Avaitors. Thanks for your kind words and friendly advice. Nothing works or doesn't work as such. No "magical cures" here. It's all in the circumstances and the people involved. But, you don't act like the kind of person who is simply going to lie down and die. |
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Try telling that to all the kids in grade school, high school, college, medical school, etc., who are virtually forced to study evolution as though it were some kind of logical process, if not the absolute truth behind all life.
Probably, yes. But why would a religion that tries to ignore the whole idea of religion even mention anything about religion at all? No? My idea isn't to bolster arguments. My idea is to set down some points that will help you and others clarify for yourselves - that is, instigate valid internal arguments within yourselves - about why or why not God or evolution or something else might be valid. I see from your discussion that it is working. I also see that you have very subtle ways for evading the point. 1) Evolution is misunderstood if it's proposed as a cause for life itself. No teacher or professor or scientist has any business associating evolution with the cause for life. 2) The scientific method isn't a religion, it's a theory about knowledge acquisition, i.e. it is a specific method used to acquire certain types of knowledge. Religion is not a method of anything, but instead is a belief system. 3) What point am I evading? I'd like to know so I can respond to it directly. Lately my daughter tells me that colleges are becoming less formal about the idea of evolution as the way life came about. But for a long time, evolution was taught both ways, as a theory and as fact (fact by implication, mostly). In today's world, politics has turned the scientific method into a different thing than science. While the scientific method may not be affected for a long time yet by politics, politics has turned science into, if not religion, at least philosophy. The point wasn't meant to be responded to, exactly. The point is that when you look at nature and the universe as a whole, the idea of God is way stronger than the idea of evolution for the beginnings of life. Notice, I said "idea," not "science." Now, relax. I'm not saying you necessarily agree or disagree with this. It is more rhetorical, since there is no way of proving full evolution or full God... not at this point, anyway. Let me say it like this: Evolution offers science some handles for investigation. God doesn't because God is "outside of the sphere" of what science has any way of handling. Perhaps we agree way more than we think. Perhaps it is only that we are coming from different directions. |
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Well that all goes back to republic, and bill of rights. This is the exact reason states waited YEARS no kidding to sign the constitution until the bill of rights was added. Do you honestly think the founding fathers would agree with all of our laws? I mean I do understand some and I am not a milita type person but fuck.... it just like whatever the fuck D.C says we comply and that is NOT WHAT THE US WAS built on. It was built on states rights, which we have little to none now with out retribution which is not what the U.S was founded on. The Goverment only started implying these lays last cent during war time. When people were scared just like 9/11 patriot act it sounds great at the time right unti your being tapped and got some stupid crazy conspiracy for thinking about hating america. https://lockerdome.com/6655936957919553/7161826458869268I dont think its the whole story but still lmfao, Shit is crazy the US is becoming a gov controlled state like socialist countries and people agree with it.... Bill of Rights was icing on the cake. Bill of Rights was basically for the States. Bill of Rights has nothing to do with the rights of the People. And by "People" I mean the people who are among those who are controllers of government... ALL OF US who look at it that way and are not citizens of. You can be domiciled on the land without being a citizen of. I gave you those links, above, so that any time that you feel like you want to learn the stuff that government is trying to hide from the people so they can keep people in slavery, you can go and learn. To see the story in a clearer format, watch the videos/listen to the audios that you find here - http://1215.org/ . Did you ever try to learn a second language? It may have been fun and exciting to try. But it was also a little daunting, wasn't it? Yet, once you had learned it, the whole thing seemed easy, and you wondered why you fretted so much in the first place. Learning the basics of how law works is a bit like this. You might go over the info a hundred times with no results. All of a sudden it kicks in. In this case, it kicks in freedom. This is a time in American history that as many people as can understand need to understand. If we don't, we will become the dictatorial state that it appears that we have already. Don't be deceived. We have not gotten there yet. There still is hope. I wish I had this stuff years ago. It would have saved me a whole lot of grief in life. |
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