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3921  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 01, 2018, 04:56:41 AM
When did you claim last time from this site?

When you assume something it should be near to the realist value.

Most people get around 10 to 11 sat per claim as of today unless they increased their claim rate that is different.

11*24*30=7920 sat in a month, which is equal to 0.7283 $ in a month. Means around 8.7$ per year.

My earlier post calculated last time when BTC prices war around $6k.

That’s only if they get the minimum price but, following your example, they will play 8760 times in a year. So, in a year and about a couple of months they will get on average half 0.02227990BTC price, two 0.00222799 BTC prices, four 0.00022280 BTC prices, eight 0.00002228 BTC prices and a hundred 0.00000223 BTC prices.

So, about $160 in 14 months, and about $137 a year.

That's just the first thing left out of the calculation. After that, you can x1.5 as the bots will be using an account to collect the referral income.

Then they exploit the reward point system as well. So a new account after 6 rolls activates 1 RP/Roll bonus until they have enough for 10 RP/Roll bonus etc. Then when they get up to 100 RP/Roll bonus that gives 102*24=2448 a day then when they have enough they can activate 1000% Free BTC bonus (3200 RP + 1200 RP to get RP bonus simultaneously). I haven't checked the numbers but wetsuit told me this 5x the total. When we briefly removed the highest RP redemption options to accounts with halved rewards the crybaby parasite solosss complained we had reduced his income by 80% so that confirms it for me.
3922  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 03:03:39 PM
I understand this, it just makes me angry when an official tries to convince everyone of the opposite

I didn't do that.



You have to remember that most advertisers has stopped paying for faucet traffic, because they do not see these users as "potential customers".

The bots are also a big problem for the advertisers. They are paying for page impressions that nobody will ever see.
3923  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Any timeframes for full Lightning Network implementation? on: April 30, 2018, 12:34:46 PM
The only common scenario I can think of to use larger channels, is a gambler who often deposits and withdraws large amounts to the same online casino.

That was very much the scenario I was thinking of. Also, the same usage could apply to regular traders who don't want to leave large amounts on exchanges when they're not actually in a trade.
3924  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Any timeframes for full Lightning Network implementation? on: April 30, 2018, 11:43:44 AM
There aren't any and there won't be any because :
1. LN continuously improved even when it's "ready" for most Bitcoiner.
2. With LN development complexity, developer might found bug that could slow down the development.
3. Since it's open source, there's no "deadline" which means developer/contributor might don't focus on LN development.

That's true but is there any discussion about removing the channel funding and transaction size limits? It's pretty much impossible for any large site or merchant to use while those are in place.
3925  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 11:14:31 AM
~snipped crying child upset that casinos make a profit

I recommended that anyone that wants to try a dicebot should use Seuntjies. He's a good developer and the bot works with most sites. He's also very honest about what his bot can do.

https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos

Gambling is about entertainment and some people find that in scripting strategies.
3926  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: what kind of node asic has on: April 30, 2018, 09:54:25 AM
You are right that you don't need to run a node you just need to point the ASIC miner at a pool. I would suggest you do some research in the Mining > Pools board of this forum so you don't get ripped off at Antpool.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=41.0

3927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin in for another low? on: April 30, 2018, 09:50:07 AM
I'm still not entirely convinced with what exactly the correlation between the stock market and bitcoin markets are, because there is still a lack of institutional investors that are actually actively invested in bitcoin. Plus, we don't know what they would actually do in a bear market situation, there is simply not enough data to gather from.

If there was any correlation you would be able to see it by overlaying the charts. I played about with that a bit over the weekend and there absolutely isn't any correlation there.
3928  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 08:21:33 AM
Does it look like I'm crying here? I share my observations with people, I have the right to do this and will continue to do so))

That's what makes you look like you're still crying.
3929  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 08:14:16 AM
as there is no such system of definition of bots, some bots really banned, but the outfitting mass continues to work without problems))

Are you still here crying?
3930  Other / Meta / Re: It's no wonder we are infested with bounty and airdrop spammers on: April 30, 2018, 08:09:50 AM
~and we follow the logic proposed by LoyceV then it simply means that banned Sr.Member can now create 11 accounts and will lurk in all mega spam threads for an year ( to gather activity more than his Sr. member account.).

Do you really think these spammers are going to spend a year to get one account back?
3931  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
You are saying if a roll is 1 hour and 1 min apart 7 times in row -- we are a BOT...your sites allow the timer to DING after one hour...which WE then ROLL.

I really don't know how that bot detection system works but I believe it is a lot more complex than that. Even if I did know I wouldn't be telling everyone how to program their bot to avoid it.

3932  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 05:48:44 AM
** The site allows a free play every hour -- we have it set to ding when it is time to roll! This needs to change from 7 hours to something higher as WE DO SLEEP!

I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here but there is no restriction on the number of free rolls a day, you can try and do 24 in if you want. The botnets often would claim 8 times a day at random intervals but just use 3x as many of them.
3933  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 30, 2018, 05:39:14 AM
you understand that this will not stop the bots? people will register new accounts and will continue to rob the casino, they have already felt the taste of easy money)) and I will definitely help them in this

At least it has finally sunk into your thick skull that you are a thief.

We have been having this fight with bots for nearly 5 years now, we know low-life thieves don't give up.
3934  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A critique on the Lightning Network from a regular poster. Long. on: April 29, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
That said if you have great amount of BTC, most likely many transaction will be routed to you (aka become Hub -> centralization)

You're only going to become a hub if people choose to open channels with you. They are unlikely to know or care how much BTC you have. Merchants, exchanges and other large sites will most likely become hubs simply because they are the businesses people want to transact with.

Centralisation means under control of one body which the LN can never be. I find that most people that accuse LN of being centralised have no idea what a decentralised network is.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Dettsr71gKg/maxresdefault.jpg


3935  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 29, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
if you ban our account, mean the our balance in this account will be lost, we cannot withdraw, is it?

Hi Guy, please be serious on this. Don't deposit any money on freebitco for now, until have an official confirmation from them. it's very serious if they ban our account. They just think you're using bot, then you money gone.

No, we only ban from using the faucet, we don't block withdrawals or any other function of the site.
3936  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 29, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
I do not understand how you can block the entire provider's IP address
What should I do now? search for a new internet provider?
on the phone is another internet provider. I tried to enter from the phone - but nothing works

I don't know that we did. All I know is that everyone that is complaining is getting the message "Sorry this IP address has been blocked.".

Thanks for PMing me the IP address, I couldn't try to do anything without that. It is might take a few days before I can get an answer but I'll forward the information on to wetsuit. In the meantime, if there is any way you can get access to another IP address that might help you.



everything falls into place. when the program automates your loss in the dice  - it's good, and when the same program automates the faucet - it's bad

FFS have only just worked that out? As I said yesterday you're not the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer. That was obvious from the moment you came here. Getting yourself and your referrals banned was the only possible outcome.

3937  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 29, 2018, 03:00:32 PM
I do not have a permanent IP address, I've already discarded your ID, I tried to restart the router and get another ip - but it did not work.
in Russia it is very difficult now, the government is struggling with the telegram website
from this we are already very badly affected. the government has already blocked 20,000,000 ip google, it is difficult for us to visit your site, because it uses google reCAPTCHA
please, deal with this issue, I'm not a bot. view my personal stats

I understand but if you could still PM me the IP address as it could be that the ISP you are on hosts large botnets and that most of their IPs are already blacklisted.



I already wrote to you that if you want me to get these people to play a game, they will do it, without any problems

You have to be extremely naive not to know that playing dice with a bot is OK but claiming a faucet with a bot is abuse.

If anyone wants a good dicebot then try https://bot.seuntjie.com/
3938  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 29, 2018, 02:35:36 PM
Do I look like a bot? why I was blocked, please check and fix it Sad Sad Sad Sad

ID:7053807

You could well be using one for all I know, or you may have an IP address that has previously been abused, or that may be one of many accounts you have, or you may have been incorrectly identified for some reason. PM me your IP address as well the user ID and I'll add it to the list I'm compiling for wetsuit to check.
3939  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 29, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
Am I doing something bad?

Yes and you know you are, you already told me that.

I develop software, I share it with people, people collect their satos, I get the promised percentage of them dripping from them. what is my fault? why do they condemn me so?

You created and shared a bot, of course, that is your fault. If you can't work out why you are condemned for that there isn't much chance of having a reasoned conversation about it.
3940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has it's limitations. NSFW <Just a little bit of humor> on: April 29, 2018, 01:46:08 PM
Probably the only way to implement this without ridiculous expenses, just like Disney dollars.
I'm just wondering, how hard would be to counterfeit some of those tickets ?

The ones they used at Stringfellows were very similar to regular bank notes with watermarks and holograms on them. I guess the larger venues can afford the expense of making them pretty tough to counterfeit. Plus with the type of bouncers these places employ you'd be pretty brave to risk getting caught trying to pass off a forgery.
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