We really need to spread Bitcoin around the world. Why? Because we need to stop getting poorer and poorer. Read this link over thoroughly, and then find someone to develop it. Wish I had the knowledge to do it. I would have long ago. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=825091.0 |
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The problem is that it's wrong. Positivism has been known to be a logical impossibility for thousands of years. It persists, however, because it happens to work quite beautifully when explaining isolated phenomena in relation to other isolated phenomena. Accordingly, the scientific method is founded upon the assumption of a Positivistic Universe. We just need to remember to disregard it before diving into metaphysics.
Wow! I couldn't have said the reason for the idea of Evolution being wrong any better than this. Especially, "It persists, however, because it happens to work quite beautifully when explaining isolated phenomena in relation to other isolated phenomena." Thanks. Here's what you need to remember, though -- evolution is both regarded and explained in terms of isolated phenomena in the scientific community, and it never tries to extend beyond the scope of isolated phenomena. This basically that means that in an empirical context evolution is more-or-less correct. If we recognize the scope of evolutionary theory, we can utilize its benefits (and there are many) at the same time that we can also understand there must exist broader, more comprehensive explanations. What!? The scope of all life on earth is an isolated phenomena. It doesn't extend to any of the far stars. What does that have to do with evolution being correct? Isaac Asimov was a clever science fiction writer. Much of his sci-fi writing could keep the reader almost spellbound, wondering how in the world an outcome like this could have happened... until there was explanation. Much of his sci-fi had science in it... real scientific observations and discoveries. In the isolated phenomena of Isaac Asimov sci-fi, the stories were correct. In the world of reality they are not. The scope and benefits of evolution ideals has to do with methods to subvert people for political reasons, by those who would control everything. Are there benefits in testing and learning methods for controlling masses of people through deception? Obviously some people think that there are, or evolution would have died long ago as the sci-fi that it is. The point? Evolution is correct within the isolated phenomena of itself. In the reality of real life in the world, it is not. |
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The problem is that it's wrong. Positivism has been known to be a logical impossibility for thousands of years. It persists, however, because it happens to work quite beautifully when explaining isolated phenomena in relation to other isolated phenomena. Accordingly, the scientific method is founded upon the assumption of a Positivistic Universe. We just need to remember to disregard it before diving into metaphysics.
Wow! I couldn't have said the reason for the idea of Evolution being wrong any better than this. Especially, "It persists, however, because it happens to work quite beautifully when explaining isolated phenomena in relation to other isolated phenomena." Thanks. |
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In some Russian manufacturing in the past, they had a system of 10 hours on, and 20 off. I don't know what they had in line of a work-week, if they had one day off a week, or what. Maybe someone can answer that. But... The whole world uses clocks. The whole modern world uses the 24-hour day, with either 24-hour or 12-hour clocks. Stupid Western Europe. They want to be metric. Metric is 10. They try to spread metric to the USA and around the world. Yet they use the 12-hour or 24-hour clocks. Russia could show the rest of the world what "10" really is like. How? Make a 10-hour day, with 5 hours of daylight and 5 hours of darkness. Divide each hour into 10 equal segments rather than stupid minutes. Show the world what 10 is. Show them how hypocritical they are with all their 10 measurements, yet they won't apply their 10 to time. 10 is really a silly base number to use. 8 or 16 would be much more logical. But in the end it all boils down to historical reasons. I used to think like that. I wondered why the Maker gave us 10 fingers. Maybe 8 wouldn't be enough. Maybe 16 would get in the way. Base12 would actually be more convenient in everyday life than base10. Think about it: 12 is easy dividable with: 1,2,3,4,6. Where 10 can only easy be divided with 1,2,5.... 10 is just a silly number to have as base  Seems to me that I remember that the base 10 thing came from the Arabs.  |
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In some Russian manufacturing in the past, they had a system of 10 hours on, and 20 off. I don't know what they had in line of a work-week, if they had one day off a week, or what. Maybe someone can answer that. But... The whole world uses clocks. The whole modern world uses the 24-hour day, with either 24-hour or 12-hour clocks. Stupid Western Europe. They want to be metric. Metric is 10. They try to spread metric to the USA and around the world. Yet they use the 12-hour or 24-hour clocks. Russia could show the rest of the world what "10" really is like. How? Make a 10-hour day, with 5 hours of daylight and 5 hours of darkness. Divide each hour into 10 equal segments rather than stupid minutes. Show the world what 10 is. Show them how hypocritical they are with all their 10 measurements, yet they won't apply their 10 to time. 10 is really a silly base number to use. 8 or 16 would be much more logical. But in the end it all boils down to historical reasons. I used to think like that. I wondered why the Maker gave us 10 fingers. Maybe 8 wouldn't be enough. Maybe 16 would get in the way. |
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I'm sure that you, as an empiricist, would agree that it's unfounded to make an assertion about an empirical state of the Universe without any empirical evidence of it, right? I'd also like to point out that you have never evidenced a Universe independent of observation, and conversely 100% of the evidence you have for an existing Universe was discovered by way of observation.
Yes, I am sure we can all agree on the absurdities of dogma. Good thing we have dogma. If we didn't, we wouldn't have scientific protocol, and we wouldn't have near the fun exchanging opinions in a forum like this, with people from around the world, 'cause we wouldn't have invented computers. We'd still be living like cavemen. Love that dogma. |
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In some Russian manufacturing in the past, they had a system of 10 hours on, and 20 off. I don't know what they had in line of a work-week, if they had one day off a week, or what. Maybe someone can answer that. But... The whole world uses clocks. The whole modern world uses the 24-hour day, with either 24-hour or 12-hour clocks. Stupid Western Europe. They want to be metric. Metric is 10. They try to spread metric to the USA and around the world. Yet they use the 12-hour or 24-hour clocks. Russia could show the rest of the world what "10" really is like. How? Make a 10-hour day, with 5 hours of daylight and 5 hours of darkness. Divide each hour into 10 equal segments rather than stupid minutes. Show the world what 10 is. Show them how hypocritical they are with all their 10 measurements, yet they won't apply their 10 to time. |
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I am afraid of height....  so I don't want to live in Mars... That does not make any sense at all? LOL ! Just looked funny to me. I think they meant that anything outer space is high above the surface of the earth. They need to realize that when you are standing on Mars, the land area is so big that it feels and looks like you are on the ground. So, you do not have any heights. |
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Fun playing. Gotta go now. So BD, how was your night drinking? Did you dream about the FSM? Remember that all gods were made in his name. Since you are finally acknowledging God, for your own good you should really seek to find out more about Him. This just to make sure that you are believing in God, and not a god, so that things will work out well for you in the resurrection. |
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This question is for BADecker:
Do you want "Biblical" Christianity or Christed Christianity?
Non-Christed Christianity is, simply, people calling themselves Christians, without really accepting what Christianity is all about. True Christianity at its base is believing that God is effecting our salvation from death through His Son, Jesus, the Christ. This will happen in the resurrection at the last day. The only real additional thing for the Christian is to live a God-pleasing life, because this will enhance salvation among people when they see the goodness done by the Christians. The above is what Biblical Christianity is. I want it for myself, and I want it for the whole world. If the whole world had it, the whole world would be an extremely great and wonderful place to live and everybody would be saved. |
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Can't share food in public, what do you think this sis, a free country? if you think this ordinance is about sharing food and not criminalizing homelessness, you're a bit naive not to see the politics of it.  This is a free country, which entails something called freedom of association. That means we are free to choose whether or not to live in communities which have rules about sharing food. We may even vote to change those rules!  Isn't democracy amazing?  There are plenty of cities where you may feed the homeless, but that's not good enough for your bleeding heart, which desires to enforce a universal uniformity and hypocritically call such homogeneous altruism-at-gunpoint "freedom." You hate people having the freedom to choose rules for their own local community, because you want everyone to be forced to subsidize the homeless and be forced to accept the (literally shitty) externalities that giving away free food to people without their own bathrooms/toilets/sewage systems/water bills creates. That's taking the 'Free Shit Army' to a whole new level! The law/rules is not about the ability to share food, it is a question about food safety. The old man was sharing/giving away food in a way that would require him to meet certain food safety guidelines which he was not following. So a disclaimer should suffice and people can make their own decision about taking his food or not. This sounds good to me. If there is an ordinance against food-sharing in a park, and the old guy doesn't want to be confrontational, he could agree to meet the hungry people somewhere else to share the food. |
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It may be illegal, but it is not unlawful. If you are a 14th Amendment citizen, you might have to follow all kinds of codes and ordinances. But if you are a "people" like one of those who set government in place, most or all of the codes and ordinances don't affect you if you don't want them to. http://1215.org/Of course, if you need some extra cash... http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ |
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On the other hand, this whole forum by its nature has something to do with socialism, no matter the topic.
Amen. And I would like to add bitcoin and the blockchain to that. In agreement with this, I would suggest that the encryption be doubled or tripled, simply so that there is no chance that someone break the kind of socialism that Bitcoin is. After all, where is there so much freedom in trade while, at the same time, there is such strong socialism? This is what we need. The simple rules of things like Bitcoin, rather than the complex rules of lying politicians who suggest socialism, and then promote oligarchy, with themselves at the top of the food chain. |
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What is zero-bama, mentioned in the title? |
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I think being an atheist is a form of a human ignorance of the creation of man by God, they do not believe in a god who created them, atheism is a form of denial of the blessings given by God to man, whereas the wild spirit they have sworn that their god is God is great ... Is this in reference to something that was said in this thread? I'm having trouble figuring out the relevance to this discussion. Don't know for sure what cutesakura was referring to but, tvbcof first mentioned atheism in this thread in his post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=839652.msg9521469#msg9521469 . And I think that tvbcof was probably responding to my use of the word "God" in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=839652.msg9520639#msg9520639 . Without really knowing what cutesakura was thinking, the above would be my guess. It wasn't my idea to start a "God" argument. At times we all speak the things that we live, don't we? It's difficult to express anything in a group that is as big as this forum, without offending someone or giving an inaccurate picture somewhere. This entire forum is full of disagreement about all kinds of things, simply because someone wasn't quite careful enough in the words he/she wrote. It is interesting, though, to see where some of the topic "forks" lead. Do you think cutesakura's post will create a fork? Or will it simply be dropped? Maybe this is the fork. On the other hand, this whole forum by its nature has something to do with socialism, no matter the topic. |
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My point isn't to be mean to atheists. My point is to only suggest that atheism is possibly the clearest self-nullifying religion of all the self-nullifying religions. Probably most atheists are rather honest people at heart. Some of them are highly intelligent, good workers, rather right people, just like the people of some other religions. The only difference is that they (atheists) probably haven't thought out the bottom-line basis of their atheism religion completely. Since God can't really be proven or disproven, atheism takes a position of placing itself in authority. If God exists, taking the authority to firmly say He doesn't exist is taking on authority that is greater than God's... making the atheist to be god over even God. If God doesn't exist, the above premise still holds true, because to suggest that God doesn't exist, gives credit to at least the suggestion of God... God Who the atheist is taking authority over by saying that He doesn't exist, thereby making himself a god of greater authority than God. If it were proven that God didn't exist, it might be a different story. |
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Small "l" libertarianism, the REAL libertarianism, simply stated is similar to the Golden Rule. At its core, libertarianism is, "harm nobody, don't damage his property, and fulfill all your agreements." In all else there is freedom.
Then by that token, small "S" socialism is the recognition that through cooperation in building and maintaining social structures a better quality of life in society can be achieved relative to a more free-for-all commonly associated with libertarianism. That was the sole basis upon which I was once willing to call myself a 'socialist'. Yes, it does indicate some level of transfer of wealth, and yes I was (and still am) a proponent of that for technical reasons I won't get into right now. What happened is that we got Socialism in almost all societies, and most assuredly here in the 'Land of the Free.' Big time. It grew under a framework of corruption because the corrupt siphon off value flows. That is the engine which drives it, and I'm wondering (with horror) if it is the ONLY engine which can. My big problem is that there is no end-game but totalitarianism with the Socialism we've cultivated in the West (and, frankely, everywhere else in the world through the ages.) Here there is no other end-game that I can realistically see. Much safer and to just have Anarchy and build upward into a better state than to try to ratchet downward from modern Socialism into one which is a dubious proposition at best. I believe that this would likely happen fairly quickly because Anarchy (or even genuine Libertarianism) would be so awful for so many people. God made the world as big as it is so that people can be free without encroaching on someone else. Get out of the big cities. Being an atheist I don't buy that suggestion in it's presented form. Being science minded (and logical) I see mathematical flaws here. Being observant, I agree with you. We are not at the point where carrying capacity for humans is threatened and we are not in immediate danger of that...that suggestion is a scare tactic used by the 'sustainable' crowd and often enough under the direction of those who have subverted Socialism for personal gain...see above. I would allow for the possibility that we are not in danger due to the eugenics programs of these folks over the years however...that is a subject I'm exploring at this time... Also not being a religious person I do not buy the religious suggestion that it is some sort of a spiritual duty to let nature be untouched by man. As practical and (I believe) ethical person I think we should not totally fuck things up for no reason and show a little bit of thoughtfulness, but we should not flagellate ourselves for some spiritual-esque nonsense about environmentalism either. Big "S" Socialism happens when small "s" socialists (community minded people) place so much trust in their socialist leaders that they don't even recognize when those socialist leaders become Socialist leaders. Big "S" Socialism isn't really socialism. Neither is big "L" Libertarianism really libertarianism. Both of them are something like dictatorships, fascism, capitalism, or some combination of these, and maybe something else altogether. The fact that we have and recognize our personal identities, and the fact that we don't know enough to truly prove or disprove God, shows that we are religiously minded. Thus, atheism is simply another religion. It falls into the class of religions that suggest man is god/God, and should really be spelled "Atheism." |
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Oh I see, yes well you can see how the brainwashed theist will ignore rational examples that show their thinking to be grossly flawed, so I don't think we're going to be able to reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Look at how dishonest their responses are. When presented with the fact that science, whether correct or incorrect, is based in reasoned reality, while theism invokes magical thinking about paranormal super-deities, they ignore the point being made and simply throw questions at you that require their own discussion topic to expand upon in the hope that they can invoke their god-of-the-gaps somewhere along the way.
Because that makes sense, you know, "Not sure about that yet, therefore, God"
It is infantile.
God-of-the-gaps? No gaps. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htmEvolution science, at its core, doesn't have the answers. Evolution science, at its base, always goes back to "if"s, "maybe"s, and suppositions. If science ever became sufficiently knowledgeable that they virtually proved God to exist, would the men of science ever admit it? The honest ones might and are. Youtube search on "cellular life" and watch the videos. There isn't anyone who has evidence that this stuff came about by evolution. But the simple operation of it all highly suggests God. Machines have makers. If suggestions are infantile, then false assertions are downright criminal. |
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Because I have an old cassette tape of the music and want it in digital and don't want to bother doing it myself?
Because I have a cd that got scratched?
Because I had it downloaded in stupid Realplayer format and had to go to machines that didn't support that idiotic thing?
Want more?
Oh, wait, you want us to PAY MULTIPLE TIMES FOR THE SAME ITEM?
really?
Excuse me, but I kindly disagree on most of your points, if not all. 1st If you bought an analog tape and want it digital, you didn't buy the digital version. I know it's hard, but it's a fact. you are the owner of a license to an analog tape (it's more technical, but in short), you don't have access with your contract to the digital version. It's like if you bough a car, then a new model arrives and you go to the dealership and steal the new model... only there you do it digitally. 2nd I had the same situation with a dvd, I went to a shop, pay $ to the shopkeeper who put my dvd in a small scratch removal machine it did wonder. Again if your car is scratch do you go steal a new one? 3nd I am deeply sorry for this one, but I can't say it other way, if you are that stupid to something with unbelievable drm and what not on it. you deserve what you got. to take the analogy you needed a very urban cars because you have a small garage, and buy a pick up truck so big that it didn't fit your garage. Who's fault is it? Again yours, because you were unable to read or understand what you were buying. 4nd NO quite the contrary. I want nothing from you. I was just expressing my contrarian opinions. I didn't want to hurt you or shock your feeling. But if you want my opinion you could stick to open sourced music (or drm free - dmca free), and support your local artist why not with bitcoin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patronage or be a thief. your life your choice, just face the consequences. However I really like to read your opinions, even if I disagree. thx for sharing. I agree. When you buy something that is protected by some level of IP law (regardless of if you believe in it or not) you are only buying a very specific license that gives you very specific (and often limited) rights. Show me the contract with my signature on it. Show me where this contract says what I can do or not do with my property. Show me where I agreed to some general law with my signature on that agreement. It may be absolutely right to not irritate other people, but if there is no contract, or if there is only an implied agreement, show where that binds me. Where's my signature on the line? |
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