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3941  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Beginning of the End ! on: January 17, 2014, 01:49:38 PM
Weīre going to have a dumptastic weekend.  Smiley
3942  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2014, 01:31:01 PM
conclusion, your prediction is impossible
Could it be be a client with special privileges? Like, someone inside MtGOX and/or Bitstamp?

Arbitrage trading requires the ability to transfer cash or coins quickly between markets. One way, as the poster suggested, is to have a pile of coins and a pile of cash in each exchange. Then one can do instantaneous "virtual transfers" if required by the chosen arbitrage strategy, and do real transfers later, once in a while, only to rebalance the piles.  Does this make sense?

again there is no one special with more "privileges" over the bitcoin protocol, such thing doesn't exist, as simple as this. please read more about the technical aspect of Bitcoin because this is what makes Bitcoin special and the rocketing price that jumps from $13 to $1240 is because of people realizing the "technical phenomena" bitcoin is....


I think everyone should spend more time educating them selves about bitcoin before heavily investing, the last couple of months proved that people just jumped with their cash into bitcoin thinking of it as a quick get rich scheme, some people doesn't believe in bitcoin but in the potential income from it.. this is why we see people panicking....

I didn't invest a single dollar when I first knew about Bitcoin, I took all time I needed before deciding and asked all "stupid" question until I felt that I have a good understanding.

you simply donīt get it? this isnīt about any technical feature of the bitcoin protocol. But keep preaching your bullshit about newbies that donīt understand the technique, lol. Did you lose money and try do blame it on "newbies" that donīt fully believe in the godgiven power of the protocol Cheesy

Edit: mmitech beware Stamp goin under 800$ again, maybe the protocol is broken?? please enlighten us ; Shocked Cheesy Cheesy
3943  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2014, 10:50:03 AM
I'm done watching the charts. It's just ridiculous. I'll check back in a week.
This shit must scare off so many potential investors. You know, serious people. Right now it's just a playground for a bunch of kids and a few whales who control basically everything. It's just sad to see something great being abused like this.

A 300 BTC buy on Gox pushes the price 30$ up, awesome. I thinak even cryptsy is harder to pump nowadays. Tongue
3944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2014, 10:41:18 AM
It seems pretty obvious that someone is cashing out big time on Stamp. Over the last days , each time the bidside got filled someones dumpin between 100-300 coins, due to the help from the bots itīs pretty hidden. They keep fillin the book with tiny buy orders after each dump.Also someone bought 268,xx, coins on Gox and nearly the same amount gets dumped on Stamp within a range of 2 minutes.
Huobi and Gox as "market leaders" are used to keep the price high/steady. I donīt know if thats bullish or bearish :-D

do you think that someone is moving their cash from gox and cashing out on stamp, BTW when you pointed out that someone bought 268 coin and after "2 minutes" the same amount was dumped on stamp, did you mean that he moved the coins to stamp to dump there ?

you clearly dont know how Bitcoin protocol works, let me explain why I said "2 minutes", so gox have most of the coins on cold storage and when you request a withdrawal, they basicly put your request in queuethen take funds from their cold storage and send them at once to multiple clients (who previously requested withdrawals) so this takes time, usually every 10 minutes or so.

I am not done yet, so your transaction is put in queue before getting in Blockchain, your transaction has priority depending on the paid fee, it can be confirmed in the first block or it can take couple more blocks to get the first confirmation, here comes the bitstamp part, so bitstamp needs minimum 3 confirmations which is circa 30 minute if we take a 10 min average.

conclusion, your prediction is impossible. and seriously try to read more about Bitcoin as a technology, it is more important than checking the price...  this is the problem with users today, we have more speculators than people interested in the technology...

Thanks for your briefing, but iīm aware of the technology and the time that it takes to send coins. I just found it a little bit strange that during low volume action such an unusual amount of coins match each other and  assumed that it is someone who is keeping bis books in order. What would you do if you have millions of dollars stuck on Gox? Pumping the price on a nearly dead exchange seems to be one possibility to cash out slowly without a huge loss. Even if you get 10% less for your coins it is still better to get 900$ instead of letīs say 400$.



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How about if the person already has the bitcoin on stamp before making his or her buy on gox, then selling the same amount on stamp? That wouldn't rely on any transfer lag...
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Thanks, thatīs what i wanted to say.
3945  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2014, 09:21:15 AM
It seems pretty obvious that someone is cashing out big time on Stamp. Over the last days , each time the bidside got filled someones dumpin between 100-300 coins, due to the help from the bots itīs pretty hidden. They keep fillin the book with tiny buy orders after each dump.Also someone bought 268,xx, coins on Gox and nearly the same amount gets dumped on Stamp within a range of 2 minutes.
Huobi and Gox as "market leaders" are used to keep the price high/steady. I donīt know if thats bullish or bearish :-D
3946  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which coin to mine? on: January 08, 2014, 05:28:57 PM
Dogecoin, what else?
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