Josh has shown the world the ability to attack and kill off coins.. Before paycoin he was huge in killing off LTC.

I bailed and sold everything I had with Zen /GAw back in Oct.  I kept the free Fury gift converted it to a prime converted it to a hashstaker and sold off 50 or 60 bucks of paycoin when it was at 6 or 7 bucks.

At this moment I have 2 hash stakers from the converted fury and I guess 2.7 paycoins.

have to say that the paycoin mining rush on westhash and nicehash was really good. I earned 3 btc vs .5 btc renting my rigs to paycoin miners.

Josh's biggest benefit to the world of digital coins was to show all of us mine your coins in your house.   Not in the cloud

too bad more and more cloud mining hosts pop up.

Yep which is why I was grateful that Lee  opened this at 340 a unit. He did this  before the second price hike to 370 by Bitmaintech and since he had the gear on hand he did not raise the price.  Now that he sold out the  he had gear at 340 which I pointed out in more then one spot on this forum was a lower price then bitmaintech was selling them for.

 He ordered more gear at 370 price point.  Unfortunately for me I only ordered one at 340 and now I am facing that same rise as the rest of us. I wish Lee had mentioned he was selling  out his first 500 before he did.

I won't be buying at the 370 price. As it is more costly then I think it is worth.

the finger guard can be moved away from the fan by 10 to 15 mm.  use a few longer bolts and some spacers 


http://www.ebay.com/itm/121180151493?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&var=420174093770&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


I have concluded that the s-5 can run long term at freq 412  with 2 delta fans at 60db at under 20 bucks.

my error rate is 99.9648 good and 0.0352 bad.

 my gh is 1331  my watts are 686 counting the extra fans  this is 0.514 watts per gh

yeah I kind of want to do a 3 way comparison of :

Sp20
S-5
Avalon4.1

price
shipping cost
watt to gh  on low
watt to gh  on med
watt to gh on fast
firmware quality
warranty
ease of setup
Sound levels
case quality
ease to mod it.

I have the sp20's on hand
I have a s-5 on hand
I am trying to get an avalon 4.1  for demo    so far I may be able to get one with a small discount

frankly I don't think a lot of people understand what the reviews take to do in terms of time.  Imageshack charges me for the photos. This thread started a small feud with people picking sides. Not that sure if the effort is worth it anymore.  

For example if I decide to review the  avalon 4.1 I will need to spend  about 1.6 coins( a discounted item)  minimum for a piece of gear I don't need. 

 I would do this basically just to determine 3 things how loud is it on eco mode ?
what is the real power use on eco mode ?
what does it take to set it up ?

Right now no one has shown clear easy photos or reviews of this on our site. To be fair there are 2 reviews on from dogie and one from valkir. Neither review answers those questions in an acceptable manner  so  why should do it when I  got  a shit load of grief for running this thread?




   Btc is in a funny spot right now and for the first time since I started in August of 2012 I have real doubts
due to the push towards data centers.


I can crunch numbers pretty well and I don't like what I see.  Kind of asking myself do I want to be in a game where asic builders push towards cloud mining  and the deals they offer are worse then me mining in house.  My rates are 16 cents in the summer  and 13 cents in the winter   Winter adjusts to 10 cents with heat savings.

 only lee's 500 s-5's hosted in china are cheap as my home in the winter.  he is sold out and his new deal is going to reflect bitmaintech's price rise to 370 a unit.

  When the two best real world things for me are coins drop to 170 usd or rise to 340 usd in the next week or two it has become discouraging.

This is the result of the poll created by biffa /myself/ and sponsored by  SP-tech



















full size here :


http://imageshack.com/a/img661/1091/J9oSGu.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3012/dj1Gnk.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/4917/t2bBoW.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/1126/GZRzMp.png

yeah does not look good.

5 s-5's are 5.75th


 that earns   2.1 btc

it also uses 3k watts an hour  which is 72kwatts a day and 2160kwatts a month

the offer has a break even point in more then 400 days.  with frozen diff and frozen  btc pric.  cloud sellers are crazy over priced at the moment. 

 your prices are too high for 1 th both the up front price and the  maintenance fee.



lets say  I buy 10th contract cost = 4890 up front - 5% since I use bitcoin =  4645.50 up front  then $16.13 a day to maintain it  10 th earns 26.96 a day


so 26.96 - 16.13 = 10.83 a day profit    since I gave you 4645.50 up front  that means  428 or 429  days to break even,  If coins and diff stays frozen.

You like spondoolies new cloud deal are far too expensive.

these units need good usb hubs.  how are you powering these?

Lee I would like another one.  I will pm you.

Thank you.  

Now lets rip some more blocks  .


we made 1  an  or 2 hour ago

Yes you do need to log into the website.  If you go back a few pages here on this thread the contract copy is  available.   

 $449 for 1 th and $1.90 a day to host it is correct.  They have the right to cancel contract if BTC get too low or Diff gets to high and the 1tb is not earning $1.90 a day. As I type 1 th earns $2.70 a day   so 2.70 - 1.90 =  $0.80 a day profit.

That is absolutely razor tight  it takes 561 days to break even.  that is with frozen diff and frozen btc price.

I love spondoolies sp20 they have been good to me price wise, but this deal does not work for me.

I did but 1 s-5 from the Chinese hosting group.  I paid 392 usd for 1 s-5 mines at 1150 gh  I got mining until feb 20 with that. I then pay 1.42 usd a day.  So my miner earns  3.11 a day.  First 25 days were paid in.  so 25 x 3.11 = 77.75 .  392 - 77.75 = 314.25 in the hole on feb 20.

from then on  3.11 - 1.42 =  1.69 a day profit   after 186 days  that 314.25 is paid off. 

  so 25 + 186= 211 days to break even    vs 561 days.   As much as I like spondoolies sp20 over the s-5 for mining in my home.   

And I have 9 sp20  vs 1 s-5 I do not like the genesis deal on paper very much at all

Looks like a nice piece of gear. 

I have the one before the B got it from crazy guy to run Minera.

Site went down for most of us it not all of us yesterday.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bitcointalk.org.html  

 blue bars = up

white = down

that site can be used for most other websites.

 So  contest  deadline was extended here to fix the issue.

  Thanks suchmoon

 found a nice chart  144 = 0%


  http://btc.blockr.io/charts

Jan 28 --------163           Jan 13 ------- 124
Jan 29 --------165           Jan 14 ------- 152
Jan 30 --------142           Jan 15 ------- 141
Jan 31 --------162           Jan 16 ------- 145
Feb  1 -------  156           Jan 17 ------- 136
Feb 2 --------                  Jan 18 ------- 157
Feb 3 --------                  Jan 19 ------- 141
Feb 4 --------                  Jan 20 ------- 122
Feb 5 --------                  Jan 21 ------- 146
Feb 6 --------                  Jan 22 ------- 138
Feb 7 --------                  Jan 23 ------- 121
Feb 8 --------                  Jan 24 ------- 129
Feb 9 --------                  Jan 25 ------- 124
Feb 10 -------                  Jan 26 ------- 129

As you can see every day has been over 144 but Jan31st

 Last adjustment 4  days over 144  10 under

you got your wish a miner for you and New England won!  Nice day.

yeah but sometimes people do all  the hash at  a top rate for ½ a day you will pick up on that every time now.

 Thank you for nice contest even if I did not win it. PS I am keeping my miners here just no more rentals. This means I will be at 11 or 12 th not 20 to 35 th.

I hope they post some reviews on the gear in hardware. I am very curious as to lowest hash settings for low sound and low power draw.