I guess everyone here is wrong.  You can send any amount with no fee, if you mine your own block. Really? why? Because if you mine your block, you completely decide what transactions to include in it, so you could include your no-fee transaction as long as it was standard. Edit: sorry didn't see DH's reply above because it started a new page and I missed that. |
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i bought and bitcoin rallied
altcoins went down i bought more
bitcoin rallied more
fuck that i'm out
So bitcoin rally has ended?  |
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FWIW I tried my address 12345Vypv2QSmuRXcciT5oEB27mPbWGeva and got this "Internal trouble fetching/understanding this ledger; sorry" too.
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Paid up to here!
Nothing in my addy, even unconfirmed. |
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Agreed. 166 might be the stop for bitstamp, but 180 is more likely the next stop for mtgox. The extra $14 being the gox-premium for degraded fiat, which wasn't the case when gox was last at 166
If I was unfortunate enough for buying at 166 in April and wanted out, I'd sell as soon as I can so the resistance will happen wherever that price is reached first, ie gox. |
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Hay resistencia en $166 (gox usd)
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Whats the problem with lots and lots of quoted?
It's tiresome to scroll pages of pages of already read text, only to find that only a single sentence is added, just like the "I concur" above . Plus it makes pages unnecessarily long. |
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Not sure if ironic . |
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No veo pendrives. He hecho búsquedas por "pendrive", "stick" y "pincho". Y de paso también busqué por "kitty" . |
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Oki gracias. La ley de Gresham trata sobre monedas de curso legal pero voy a obviar eso . |
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Podría que ser que en resumidas cuentas la teoría sobre la Ley de Gresham vienen siendo lo mismo que ha señalado magix con su teoría. ¿Y cuáles serían entonces los dos (o más) tipos de moneda en juego? Él solo habla de bitcoin. |
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mtgox got hacked i couldn´t access my account […] mtgox customer service sorted it within 20 min.
Did you get your bitcoins back from Gox? I'd like to know that too. Back in 2011 after the hack, the mtgox account recovery process asked for some detailed information like IP addresses and exact balances, not something that could be sorted out in 20 minutes. |
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En un tiempo cuando la gente vea que el bitcoin va subiendo y subiendo de precio, no se los querrá sacar de encima. Los van a guardar. Y pocos BTC habrá en circulación. También habrá bitcoins en cuentas olvidadas o peridas. O sea que en circulación habrá muy pocos.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_GreshamPerdona pero no veo cómo aplica a lo que ha dicho magix. |
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Con ella se pasa el dinero fiat (mediante una transferencia SEPA) a una cuenta que la tarjetita tiene asociada en Polonia.
Pero si es con mtgox, ya sabes, te puede tardar meses. |
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Could we please limit the number of nested quotes? e.g. The SR sell-off was pretty insane imo. The market showed its hand there and the bull is on the loose.
Indeed. The rebound is a very strong signal both fundamentally and technically imo. Fundamentally because it shows that the value of bitcoins is not dependent on one single merchant or website. Technically because it mimics the behavior of the price in the march/april price rise. I disagree. Its a mix of Gox and Bitstamp trying to be market leaders, but Gox just has a bit more pull. The fact that you cant withdraw -> price decreases can only be short term -> bitstamp follows, interprets as healthy market. Think about it. How can Gox price possibly go down? The only way is to sell to buy back for less. The fact it went thru $110 is pretty incredible. Why has the price gone up, now? Because idle money entered the market [low placed bids] while those who sold are now taking losses and buying back in. If you want to withdraw go to localbitcoins.com and sell your bitcoins there via bank transfers or cash sells. If you live in Europe, you can also do it here: siriusmoney.com...Did you even read what you wrote? That involves BUYING. Since gox is leader, that is going to be bullish. Plus, good luck selling >100 coins at a reasonable loss on LBC. Previously you could see the buying and selling prices of localbitcoins.com on bitcoinity.org - can't find it now, though. That graph should answer your hypothesis, though, since the market would reflect it, if mtgox' price was unrealistically high. I do, actually, often sell bitcoins below the mtgox price. So my conclusion is that mtgox' price might be a bit high and that Bitstamp sets the price here in Europe but if mtgox was way off the rest of the market, this would show up on localbitcoins.com. Localbitcoin prices are completely random and vary +/-50% from current market prices. Volume is very low. I found the information I was looking for. The Local Bitcoin weighted average price is not random at all even though it has a large variation. And you cannot buy bitcoins for anything cheaper than 96 euros anywhere in the world and that is only 3 % below the Bitstamp price. If you were correct in that the mtgox and Bitstamp price were unrealistically high, the Local Bitcoin price would be significantly lower: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/localbitcoins/EUR7d low: 73 7d hi: 125 USD: 7d low: 88 7d hi: 224 lolk. Why would you expect an OTC site to be anything more than a mirror of the main exchanges? The volume is awful. People dont panic buy or sell there. And if you want to get nitpicky, the prices there have barely increased despite the rally of the past hours. Do you understand the concept of variance or averages? In my opinion, the concept of equilibrium and arbitrage disproves your theory about price manipulation. And the volume that it shows is only for euro denominated trades and does not include USD denominated trades etc. |
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Edito: como funciona SEPA? Tengo que pedir mi numero IBAN en el banco? Abrir una cuenta con ese numero IBAN? Con tu cuenta actual ya puedes hacer transferencias SEPA. No necesitas saber tu número de cuenta SEPA para realizar transferencias; sí necesitas saberlo (y comunicárselo a otros) para recibirlas. En la web del banco debería aparecerte algo, o de lo contrario con una llamada o visitando tu sucursal. PD: Ayudarme podrias dejar la gente el banco que teneis y las comisiones que cobran por tranferencia internacionales.
Las transfes SEPA cuestan lo mismo que las nacionales (y creo que esto es por ley, que alguien me dé una colleja si no es así). Yo con Openbank no pago nada. A veces sí pago porque el banco destino cobra pero contra eso ya no puedo hacer nada. |
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That wasn't the specific distinction he was trying to make. He was trying to illustrate that two parties with a vested interest in pumping the volume on the exchange, could trade back and forth for minimal fees, to create the appearance of a robust market.
FWIW that's how I interpreted it too. |
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· Todos nuestros productos están actualmente al 5% de descuento.
· Los nuevos clientes tienen un vale descuento del 5% extra en su primera compra.
No me queda claro si esto es acumulable. En principio pienso que sí, puesto que son dos conceptos distintos, pero me parece demasiado bonito… |
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Not a single word on fiat withdrawals. No news is bad news.
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