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3981  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the right and fair way to stop Mike Hearn? on: January 24, 2014, 04:14:11 AM
Bitcoin is a decentralized system.

If you don't like the work Mike does, don't use it! If you don't like the direction he's going with that work, write some code yourself that goes in a different direction. If you don't like where "core" Bitcoin client development is "going", go to http://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin and hit the "Fork" button and convince other people to join your development effort.

You people seriously misunderstand how Bitcoin works...

This seems right in principle, but in practice I think it downplays the concerns of the OP.
3982  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Time to go on a spending spree at Overstock! on: January 24, 2014, 04:12:12 AM
So what were the top items purchased?  I wonder.  I think I saw some sort of list recently on a news aggregator.  Wish I could pull that up ....
3983  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Everyone doing cryptocoins should be using Linux as OS on: January 24, 2014, 04:11:23 AM
I'm definitely using it.  I'd recommend it to anyone.  I learned how to code because of it and now I make a living that way.
3984  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: January 24, 2014, 04:09:43 AM
Its finally back woohoo!!!!


made you look

Ty sir.

Oh, the clowning.  O the false hopes arisen.  Here's another false hope: seals will nominate me shittiest player of the month and will award me with 10 chips.

I await your scorn.

Smiley
3985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are you a gun guy or girl? on: January 24, 2014, 04:07:33 AM
I have part of a gun.

Strangely, I found the stock of some sort of smith and wesson hand gun when cleaning up some blackberry overgrowth.  I don't know where the rest of the gun is nor do I know how long it was under the berries.
3986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The End of Britain on: January 24, 2014, 04:05:47 AM
WARNING: What you're about to see is controversial, and may be alarming to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.

http://pro.moneyweek.com/myk-eob/EMYKP350/?a=5&o=170600&s=176716&u=1305301&l=299247&r=MC&g=0&h=true

Sounds challenging.  Maybe I should use my discretion and not watch this one Smiley
3987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people think income tax is ok? on: January 24, 2014, 04:04:28 AM
The reason that I think that income tax is okay is that my government uses it to do useful things for everyone.  One example is funding the public transportation system which we all benefit from (both riders and non-riders benefit; non-riders benefit from reduced traffic on the roads).  There are many other examples of useful things which can be done with taxes.
3988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 24, 2014, 04:00:28 AM
The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god.

You're right about that.

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This logic is inherently flawed as itself is a negative.

The syntax of that (English?) sentence is flawed.  However, the flaws go beyond cleaning up your English.  The belief that there is no god is just a belief.  It's not a "negative".  Yes, there is a syntactic negation in the sentential statement of that belief.  But even old Aristotle seems to have a better idea than you about how opposition relations (which *do* exist!) feed into natural language statements with negation (cf _The Categories_).


Its self.  My bad.

I don't see how that helps it?  So the sentence is now: "This logic is inherently flawed as its self is a negative." ?

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Non existence does not exist.  To say non existence exists is a fallacy.  It is like a riddle.

Uh, it's hard to figure out what you mean by that? ^^^.  Non-existance is a quality.  It's the quality of not existing.  Obviously (by definition!) you won't find that quality inhering any extant objects, but geez, is it really throwing you for this hard of a loop?


"Nothing is nothing, unless it is something"  If non existence, or nothing, is a quality, then it is something, so it must exist as a conceptualization.  How can nothing be something if it is nothing?

You are mixing logical levels.  See the use/mention distinction.  There is the concept of a dog.  I label it with a term "dog".  This does not mean that the properties of the dog inhere in the term "dog".  The concept of nothing certainly exists and we can label it.  This does not equivalent to locating an instance of nothingness in the real world.  I feel like your logic would lead you do deny the existence of the color blue because the word "blue" has no color.

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Likewise, nothing is nothing.  You cannot be nothing, nor can you become something from nothing, nor can you become nothing from something.  Existence is eternal.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.  Really?  Existence is eternal?  Ok, so I guess the dinosaurs and the twin towers still exist...


In some other reality, yes, they do.  Universe is infinite.

Ok, but I want to constrain my discussion to the current reality only please.

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Please explain how energy, which cannot be created nor destroyed, ceases to exist.

Who said it does?  I beleive that the old dinosaur energy was converted into non-dinosaur energy in the form of organic material on the Earth.  If you can allow me to believe in the non-dinosaurness of the present reality,  why can't you entertain that someone believes that there is no God in the present reality?

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You may conceptualize nothingness, perhaps as darkness or void, but you cannot perceive nothing, for nothing does not exist.

Thanks for the permission to conceptualize nothingness.  Perhaps you might change your mind and allow us to conceptualize that God is something like that nothingness you mentioned.


That is fine.  You may perceive god to be nothingness, but it is only your own reality that you are perceiving to be nothingness.  And by perceiving god through any amount, whether thought or belief, you are still confirming it's existence.

Wait a minute.  Conceptualizing nothingness is not the same thing as conceptualizing that I am nothing.  Who threw me into the nothingness?  Again, you confuse logical levels.   Here we have a person conceptualizing and we have the concept they envision.  Conflating the two things leads to confusion.  If this conflation feels mystical or gives you a religious feeling, that's fine.  But it's not the same as a logical assertion.  You shouldn't expect others to follow you.

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So you used to be an atheist until you got yourself all confused with some pseudo-metaphysical sophistry?  I think you need a philosophy 101 course, dude.

No.  I used to be an atheist until I experienced a great depression, looked within for answers, came out of that depression and experienced egodeath confirming the existence of god.

Egodeath is when your soul, consciousness, completely separates from the physical plane of the universe.  The fourth dimension is composed of specific and filtered light spectrums to create your reality of space and time, in other words, you see colors which create the illusion of division.  As we have learned, when you combine all these frequencies, colors, together, you get white light.  When you are separated from your sense of self, or reality, your consciousness inputs all frequencies of the universe.

This results in your vision turning to completely white energy of the highest form, consciousness, love, god.  Ego death brings the feeling of infinite love, it is a greater feeling than 1000 times the happiest point of your life, at a minimum.  It is what you experience upon death.

This kid's had multiple near death experiences and he describes the same infinite peace and white light of united consciousness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4LSEXsvRAI

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“While I was still unconscious, I was in this white room; no walls, it just went on and on. There was no sound, but that same peaceful feeling I had when I was four. I was wearing a really nice suit, and so was my favorite rapper, Kid Cudi. I then looked at myself in the mirror—I was proud of myself, of my entire life, everything I have done. It was the best feeling. I didn’t want to leave that place. I wish I never woke up.”

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"Right then, my favorite song of his came on, Mr. Rager.  The part where it said, 'when will the fantasy end, when will the heaven begin?'  And he said, 'Go now.'"

Another testimony:

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Following a simple medical procedure for pancreatitis in 2009, Crystal McVea of Oklahoma went into full respiratory arrest on the operating table. When that happened, she says she experienced a trip to heaven that renewed her faith in God, whom she met in person. She described him as “an immense brightness,” one that she could “feel, taste, touch, hear, and smell,” and recalled having 500 senses while in heaven, as opposed to the traditional human five.

Great, if your religion is helping you, I'm not against that.  I think your only mistake is suggesting that these mystical feeling you get from these poems you're writing equates with a logical necessity.  Thoughts are thoughts, people think them.  That some people think that there is no God is simply a belief that some people have.  Perhaps just as unjustifiably as your belief that thinking about the concept of nothing leads to contradictions (it doesn't!). 
3989  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: January 23, 2014, 09:14:07 PM
The seals android app is still giving me "error code 522".  Just a heads up.
3990  Economy / Economics / Re: Merchants could drive the bitcoin adoption on: January 23, 2014, 05:19:03 AM
I basically agree with you and I hope you are right.  I've seen a lot of notifications about new merchants now accepting btc.  I hope the trend continues.
3991  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Question About Early Adapters Who Hold Coins on: January 23, 2014, 04:56:34 AM
I have a few BTC bought at 70$, and some bought at 900+, too.

Yeah, I bought some for $0.82 (not enough) and also some for $1020.

Even if the price gets to $1,000,000+ I'd still be a buyer of coins, if I have spare government money coming in.


People like you make me very happy to be holding my 1 coin very tightly.  I'm glad you'll buy at any price so that I can sell and retire one day Smiley
3992  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.5 BTC/month to Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: January 23, 2014, 04:54:22 AM
I know this has been mentioned already, but can I clarify that if I choose to change my payment method to bit777, that I can cash this out without playing or depositing? I don't see why people wouldn't do that if that's the case.

Thanks

Yes you can

Right, so it seems obvious that we need to use the bit777/peerbet accounts in order to get paid.  I mean who doesn't want to double their money?

I think you said that everyone's getting paid on the 25th nowadays, right?  I just need to double check that I still have my password for a bit777 account.  I'll let you know in a bit.

Thanks!
3993  Economy / Services / Re: Earn up to 0.5 BTC/month to Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: January 23, 2014, 04:50:15 AM
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BTC Address: 13Jb1UB3569aqfdDQekqFNQJadRSBMUNtj


Given your trust rating, you are not welcome in our program and won't be paid so you should take off our signature.

Looks like the only trust on this guy is a positive one.  I don't know him but I just thought I'd point it out.  The other thing I want to say is that the trust system can be abused.  TradeFortress put some random negative trust on me even though he admitted in a discussion thread that I actually hadn't had any dealing with him.
Trust system is a good idea but you have to take it with a pretty big grain of salt IMHO.
3994  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: January 23, 2014, 04:39:23 AM
I believe in seals!

They will (probably!, I hope!) beat these dicks.

Chairman, when are you gonna make me an official mascot?
3995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 23, 2014, 04:34:26 AM
The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god.

You're right about that.

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This logic is inherently flawed as itself is a negative.

The syntax of that (English?) sentence is flawed.  However, the flaws go beyond cleaning up your English.  The belief that there is no god is just a belief.  It's not a "negative".  Yes, there is a syntactic negation in the sentential statement of that belief.  But even old Aristotle seems to have a better idea than you about how opposition relations (which *do* exist!) feed into natural language statements with negation (cf _The Categories_).

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Non existence does not exist.  To say non existence exists is a fallacy.  It is like a riddle.

Uh, it's hard to figure out what you mean by that? ^^^.  Non-existance is a quality.  It's the quality of not existing.  Obviously (by definition!) you won't find that quality inhering any extant objects, but geez, is it really throwing you for this hard of a loop?

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Likewise, nothing is nothing.  You cannot be nothing, nor can you become something from nothing, nor can you become nothing from something.  Existence is eternal.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.  Really?  Existence is eternal?  Ok, so I guess the dinosaurs and the twin towers still exist...

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You may conceptualize nothingness, perhaps as darkness or void, but you cannot perceive nothing, for nothing does not exist.

Thanks for the permission to conceptualize nothingness.  Perhaps you might change your mind and allow us to conceptualize that God is something like that nothingness you mentioned.

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Try not to get hung up on the title, you may perceive atheism to exist, though the basis of atheism itself does not exist.

Former atheist that used to believe in nothing.

So you used to be an atheist until you got yourself all confused with some pseudo-metaphysical sophistry?  I think you need a philosophy 101 course, dude.
3996  Other / Meta / Re: Marketplace trust on: January 21, 2014, 02:07:59 AM
Yeah, the default trust system has blemished me too because I got on the wrong side of TradeFortress before he got on the wrong side of nearly everyone.  Because his opinion was by default golden, I was shamed.  However because I'm not a trader it hasn't really cost me anything.

Anyway, I'm just attesting to the complexities and difficulties of the trust system.
3997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 1 Ron Paul coin for LTC. on: January 21, 2014, 02:05:52 AM
Well at least I know that it wasn't just a weird joke about giving Ron Paul 1 litecoin or something.  Thanks for clarifying and good luck with your Ron Paul coins.
3998  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Do you think BTC will hit $200? on: January 21, 2014, 02:04:09 AM
Funny how these old threads can keep getting bumped and therefore our 'new replies' page asks us to consider (in 2014!) the question of whether bitcoin will hit $200 (which it did in 2013!).
3999  Economy / Services / Re: Earn upto 0.6 BTC per month for your signature! on: January 21, 2014, 02:02:55 AM
One day, I'll be back, and pay everyone on this thread. Smiley

Wait for it....

Ok, but this is a little less dramatic than MacArthur's "I shall return".  Maybe work on your final famous words a bit before posting.
4000  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BitcoinAverage.com - independent bitcoin price on: January 21, 2014, 02:00:22 AM
This is still my favorite bitcoin price site.  I say good job to the bitcoinaverage.com folks.  Nice to keep hearing updates on the project.
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