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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 27, 2017, 12:33:22 PM
I know this is slightly off topic, but any suggestions for good X11 pools? Was especially looking for ones that merge mined and/or switched between different X11 coins (Cann, start etc)...

I tried to start a thread elsewhere on the subject, but so far it's received no love...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2044610.msg20361802#msg20361802

#tumbleweeds #crickets #coughcough
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 27, 2017, 12:28:23 PM
Btw, I have a few Ibelink DM11Gs coming my way soon, so I'll be able to report how they run and what kindnof returns they generate  I'm hoping a-lot-of / most-of the increased difficulty has already hit the x11 algo bc the manufacturers are mining before they ship (would explain the recent spike in network hashrate).

Either way, I expect the next 2/ 2.5 months to be the most profitable.

If anybody's interested in one, PM me. I'm not particularly motivated to sell, since I bought them to mine and they were hard to comme by, but I might consider an offer if the price were right...
43  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 27, 2017, 12:14:10 PM

If your heart is set on the L3+, I suggest Eastshore.xyz
If you just want good hardware, I'd also suggest waiting for the next D3 batch to pop up on Bitmain (there was one last night that sold out in an hour, but I imagine there will be a lot more), or you could wait till Bitmain sells their next L3+ batch no idea when that'll be tho...

OR I think Bittawm (legendary bitcointalk member) may have some September batch D3s he'd be willing to sell.


Holy Crap!  I just ran the numbers on the D3.  It pays for itself in less than 2 weeks!  LOL.  My heart was set on the L3 because I thought it paid for itself the fastest.  I think my heart is set on the D3 now.

I also have a few Ibelink DM11gs arriving soon. I might consider selling one at a premium if you're interested. Bought them to mine with, were hard to get, and will be able to mine soon, before some of these other models effected the difficulty.

Still, I might consider if the price were right. PM me if you're interested.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: First Asic for SIA - Obelisk SC1 on: July 27, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
I know this may be a subject for a different thread, but I like to live on the edge... also, I think there might be some overlap in interest...

Does anybody here own a SiaFund? If so, what has been your experience (maintenance difficulty, payout history etc?). Would you ever look to sell?

I'm considering it as an easier to manage alternative ...
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 27, 2017, 10:20:42 AM
The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?

 They don't seem to be sold out, more that their website seems to be broken at the moment - or they're ALMOST ready with the new batch but haven't actually gotten all the "back end" updated for it yet.


Might i recommend restarting your browser. Bitmain recently updated their site, u may get a 503 error unless you restart your browser.

They did sell a batch last night, Sept18-25 batch. Can't know how many they sold, but it sold out in an hour.


 Wasn't a browser issue - was that they had sold out but their website hadn't been updated to reflect it yet.
 They stated in an email response to me that they had sold out in "30 minutes".

 I DO believe that is a record for them - but I have to wonder how big the batch was, or if possibly some "whale" miner/farm bought a large piece of the batch in one big transaction.



I believe they updated their website prior to the sale, creating a 504 error that would pop up nless you closed and restarted your browser... something cookie related (?) I've already said more than I know. Thought maybe you were having that problem...

As for whales, I know they capped individual buys to 50 or under. I suppose somebody COULD have bought more from different accounts...

I think Bittawm picked up a few, if you're looking for to secure one.



Even Eastshore.xyz is out of stock (at least for now)...

46  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 27, 2017, 10:00:16 AM
Alibaba is listed as LEGIT.  BUT I don't know if just because they list on Alibaba, they're LEGIT.  I've sent out an RFQ and contacted many sellers directly and I have gotten a lot of responses that say they can get me an Antminer L3+ for $1200 - $1600 and have it in immediate stock.  But they'll only take T/T, Bank Transfer, Western Union, or MoneyGram.  I've asked if they would do the Alibaba Trade Assurance Order Protection, and they won't do it.  Could there be that many people out there just taking your money or do you think they are manufacturing knock-off miners?  China is the king of knock-offs.  Can I attach a file?  I got an e-mail from Ms.Jimi Huang from Hjm-Light Technology  Co,.Ltd, (website:hjm-light.com).  There was a nice PDF brochure attached for the Ants mineS9 13.5T, Ants mining machine L3 + 504M, and the Ants Mine S7 4.73T.  I wish I could attach the PDF.

Oh, and I want to thank anyone who had input.  You are all very helpful.

There really is no such thing as "knock off ASICs". It costs millions of dollars to produce... so like, there are different companies producing different models with their unique designs / hash rates / power draw / ship dates / profitability etc,

But it's too expensive / complicated to produce an ASIC, that there really can't be knock-offs. It's not like handbags, ya know?
47  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 27, 2017, 09:36:26 AM
Alibaba is listed as LEGIT.  BUT I don't know if just because they list on Alibaba, they're LEGIT.  I've sent out an RFQ and contacted many sellers directly and I have gotten a lot of responses that say they can get me an Antminer L3+ for $1200 - $1600 and have it in immediate stock.  But they'll only take T/T, Bank Transfer, Western Union, or MoneyGram.  I've asked if they would do the Alibaba Trade Assurance Order Protection, and they won't do it.  Could there be that many people out there just taking your money or do you think they are manufacturing knock-off miners?  China is the king of knock-offs.  Can I attach a file?  I got an e-mail from Ms.Jimi Huang from Hjm-Light Technology  Co,.Ltd, (website:hjm-light.com).  There was a nice PDF brochure attached for the Ants mineS9 13.5T, Ants mining machine L3 + 504M, and the Ants Mine S7 4.73T.  I wish I could attach the PDF.

Oh, and I want to thank anyone who had input.  You are all very helpful.

You're right. I should've been clearer / more precise with my inclusion of Aliebaba on the Legit list.

Aliebaba does / can offer some levels of protection if you use it the right way, the Alibaba Trade Assurance Order being one of the ways. Another way is by the sellers rating (I believe their more trusted sellers are gold ranked. From what I remember, all (modt?) Gold rated sellers accepted the Trade  Assurance anyways...

Im sure people are getting scammed a bunch there, and there are no guarantees in life, but if you just deal with gold ranked members and use their TAO, I think you've mitigated a lot of your risks...

But ive actually never completed an order with them personally. Maybe somebody here would like to share their experience(?)
48  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 27, 2017, 09:21:40 AM
To avoid the huge increase to the X11 difficulty, you may want to consider the new Obelisk SC1 asic for Siacoin.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976753.20

Obelisk.tech

It's a long lead time, and they've never released an asic before (the obelisk asic company is comprised of Siacoin's development team), but the algo (blake2b) is much less likely to get saturated by competing asic companies.

Hash responsibly.
49  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 27, 2017, 09:11:15 AM

If your heart is set on the L3+, I suggest Eastshore.xyz
If you just want good hardware, I'd also suggest waiting for the next D3 batch to pop up on Bitmain (there was one last night that sold out in an hour, but I imagine there will be a lot more), or you could wait till Bitmain sells their next L3+ batch no idea when that'll be tho...

OR I think Bittawm (legendary bitcointalk member) may have some September batch D3s he'd be willing to sell.


Holy Crap!  I just ran the numbers on the D3.  It pays for itself in less than 2 weeks!  LOL.  My heart was set on the L3 because I thought it paid for itself the fastest.  I think my heart is set on the D3 now.
Yes, but once these miners hit the market they will blow up difficulty, and once you get yours in possibly the third batch difficulty will have risen likely to the point of L3+ profits or below. Not horrible but just keep in mind that difficulty is a big factor in these algos where hashrate and efficiency takes massive jumps.

Leowonderful is absolutely correct. 4 other asic manufacturers have come / will soon be coming out with New models over the next few months.

Forgive me while I shamelessly tout my other thread that breaks down the tradeoffs of each.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042529.0;all

Whatever happens, it seems that the D3 is the best in breed,(esp for the price) and bitmain asics (esp first gen bitmain asics) tend to ROI and run for a bit... but Bitmain is  also known for mass producing asics like toasters.

Anyways, the problem is they sell out so quickly, Eastshore.xyz ( who just delivered my L3+s btw), don't even have them.

Right now, your best bet is either buying one from forum member Bittawm -- who I believe has 30 for sale, but expect a mark up for his troubles.

I might could sell u mine, but since I bought it to mine, I'd be looking for a major premium as well.

The other option is to try for the next batch from Bitmain, but those sell out very quickly and nobody knows when that'll be.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: iBelink DM11G - 10800mhs x11 miner - Batch 1 - DELIVERY SOON, MESSAGE ME on: July 26, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
Pm sent
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 26, 2017, 05:56:22 AM
Innosilicon miners cost too much

If it weren't for the D3s, they'd be the best buys in town... but the D3s DO exist... not to mention the fact that Innosilicon has a bad rep for over promising /under delivering hash rate / delivery date.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 26, 2017, 03:12:44 AM
Great post, baskanx!

Thanks for taking the time to share those pics. I personally don't know enough about microchips to know what I'm looking at, but i'm sure somebody else can...

That's why i love these forums.

53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 26, 2017, 02:45:32 AM
The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?



 They don't seem to be sold out, more that their website seems to be broken at the moment - or they're ALMOST ready with the new batch but haven't actually gotten all the "back end" updated for it yet.



Might i recommend restarting your browser. Bitmain recently updated their site, u may get a 503 error unless you restart your browser.

They did sell a batch last night, Sept18-25 batch. Can't know how many they sold, but it sold out in an hour.
54  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 25, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
Has anyone dealt with this guy?:
Domain:  newasic.com
Skype:  msrv222
E-mail:  newasic@hotmail.com
Phone:  +00-86-23-166-21770

When you go to place order, website says to call.  I've Skyped with him, and placed an order, but didn't realize the web site I was using would limit what I could convert and take up to 7 days for bank transfer.  Says he's holding Antminer L3+ & PSU until my transfer clears and I can send full payment.  I've already sent him 3 LTC & $10 USD as "test transfers", which was fine with me because this was the first time paying with cryptocurrency for me.   Is this the typical way you pay by the seller by him giving you just a long code to send to?

I contacted this guy and asked that he send the power supply with the funds I already transferred and that after that arrived I would transfer the rest for the L3+.  He did not want to do that but offered to send my money back.  He says he gets the L3+ from the factory for $750 USD & sells for $1250, or actually 30 LTC, but needs my payment before he can order from the factory and seems that they ship direct from factory.  I expressed my concerns about how no one had these units, and he maintained that he is paying the factory.  I don't know, can there be some knock-offs being sold?  I don't know, maybe if he could send me a picture of the unit with serial number that I could verify with the factory, of course he needs payment first.  He did refund my 3 LTC, or actually 2.9900, I guess that's minus the network fees?

So, I bought my bitcoins for this payment on Sunday for $2700 and before I even get them they're worth only $2500.  I don't want to be in the currency exchange business, I want to be in the mining business.

Even if he is getting them for $750 from the factory, he could be selling them for a lot more.

Also, if he had a reliable coonect from the factory, and wanted to price hardware to move... he would probably me more established / better known... He isn't.

He could also be selling regularly through Alibaba and Aliexpress...

Of course I don't know this person, so I could be wrong, but I seriously think this site is a scam. If you still want to mess with him, I would suggest using Paypal, since they offer buyer protection if the seller never delivers.

It would still take you a while to get your money back, and you gotta make a claim blahblahblah, but at least that's better than the tragic finality of a crypto transfer. My guess is he won't go for it because he doesnt plan on sending anything... you could also suggest using somebody to provide escrow, but he won't want that for the same reason.

If your heart is set on the L3+, I suggest Eastshore.xyz
If you just want good hardware, I'd also suggest waiting for the next D3 batch to pop up on Bitmain (there was one last night that sold out in an hour, but I imagine there will be a lot more), or you could wait till Bitmain sells their next L3+ batch no idea when that'll be tho...

OR I think Bittawm (legendary bitcointalk member) may have some September batch D3s he'd be willing to sell.

All those options would be more expensive than NewAsic's prices, but they're also a lot cheaper since you'd be guaranteed to actually receive hardware.

I hope this was helpful.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 25, 2017, 01:51:22 PM
The D3s just went back on sale and sold out within an hour... I know Bitmain generally sells out quickly, but this has gotta be record, no?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 25, 2017, 03:24:02 AM
1stminingrig.com did a review of the Baikal Giant Plus, analyzing its profitability, etc. Thought you might be interested...

http://1stminingrig.com/baikal-miner-giant-a2000-worth-review/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+1stMiningRig+%281st+Mining+Rig%29
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: Bext X11 Merge Mining Pool on: July 25, 2017, 02:29:56 AM
I found this old thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924408.0

About a merged mining pool that mined Unitus and Cannabiscoin before CANN went "up in smoke" (anyone? Anyone?)

The pool was run by ocminer, a Legendary forum member, so I'll message him to see what he's got going on now and report back. Wish me luck.

58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Best X11 Merge Mining Pool on: July 25, 2017, 02:18:29 AM
Waiting on some X11 hardware and wanted to merge mine. Any advice on merge mining with X11? Best pools that are STILL pools? My hardware isn't Baikal, so it's X11 or bust

I'm not even sure what coins CAN be merge mined with Dash. SO far, the only merge minable coin I could find is (Johnny) UNITUS.

Found a switching pool that does Startcoin and Cannabiscoin sometimes, but looking for a pool that exclusively (/mainly) mines Dash plus whatever can be merge mined with it.

Thanks in advance for any and all help  Wink Undecided
59  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: LEGIT or QUIT List of Safe retailers on: July 25, 2017, 12:30:03 AM
I would say Brooklynhardware.us does LOOK more legit, but is still a SCAM site. QUIT QUIT QUIT QUIT!!!

Forget that their S9s are priced at what Bitmain sold them for. Forget that their shop button was a dead link, since that's not a GREAT sign, but also not definitive either way.

nAH, the SHADIEST aspect is (drum roll please)

Their listed PHYSICAL ADDRESS on the site's contact page

1613 63rd St, Brooklyn, 11204, NY
Office Hours: Monday-Friday 7am-5pm (EST)
Email:  sales@brooklynhardware.us

If you google that address, you get this...

Empire electric company (empireelectric.com)

And it's in a residential area, with no other Brooklyn Hardware storefront or office buildings nearby. One time, I almost bought from fake hardware company that turned out to be a chinese restaurant (i think I listed them earlier and made a wokchain joke).

If you know anybody who lives in New York, you could send them on a wild goose chace to an electric appliance store, see if their moonlighting as an ASIC online hardware retailer who sells S9s for at cost, but in lieu of that, I'd say QUIT ITand FORGET IT.

As for the Bitmain waiting list... it goes like this. You gotta check their website all the time... like, ALL THE TIME. When they announced their D3s, they were for sale for like 2 hours in the middle of the night... then they sold out. When are they coming back? "soon"... but it doesnt feel that way.

Most of the times i bought from them, it was the middle of the night. The L3+ "buy now" button turned from grey to red... only for a few minutes, then they sold out again. I would reccommend having crypto ready (they require crypto payment within an hour of placing an order)... or choosing the USD bank wire option, where you'll get a few 3-7 days to finalize a wire transfer to their account...

I would also recommend being signed in to your account BEFORE you try to buy, because products have sold out in the time it took me to sign in... Welcome to the crazy, frustrating, exhilerating world of crypto mining...

If you don't wanna mess with all that, may I reccommend Eastshore.xyz

https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/antminer-l3-litecoin-miner-250mh-for-scrypt-mining/

They're charging $2,850 plus power supply for an l3+ you'd get middle of September. I know it's a premium, but at least you'll get it. Even if/when bitmain comes back with their L3+s, you wouldn't get them till October or later... jope this helps. Keep me posted on what you do, how it works out.

60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 5 New X11 ASIC miners - Antminer, Innosilicon, IbeLink, Baikal, PinIdea on: July 24, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
2. Other manufacturers can always adapt and release updated software to handle other algos. It's just a puny change and doesn't require major rewrite.



From my understanding, all those big hash rate miners are ASIC and Baikal is FPGA. With that in mind, ASIC can no longer be altered once made while an FPGA can be reprogrammed, which was why they were able to add other algorithms with a firmware update.

I could be wrong...

I think you're right, but is it possible the Baikals are PARTIALLY FPGA? Found this in an interview with Baikal:

"X11 uses a chained eleven hash algorithms differently from Scrypt and SHA256 that cause more challenges for the optimization of eleven hash algorithms. While we optimized each hash algorithm, we focused much more on the entire interworking the eleven hash algorithms. We were sure about one shot success of X11 ASIC development through high fault coverage FPGA verification."

To be honest, I don't really know what FPGA is. Would you mind explaining it a little to the thread, and how it differs fron a straight up ASIC protocol?
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