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41  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 18, 2014, 10:13:21 AM
guys,
at the start of this thread is a link to the thread where he SOLD the last two coins, those big ones

I even waited after that sale to start my complaint publicly

timeline is like this :

all coins but 25's sold and paid for

2 x 25's sold not paid

my public complaint starts after a month or so (in the mean time he did not respond to pms)

here we are, months after the sale, and no btc for me

all is here in the thread, black on white,
but too many posts like "Charlie can't be a scammer, bracek is too agressive "
so info is spread across too many pages
42  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 18, 2014, 10:07:30 AM
So let me try to get clarity, Charlie is in possession of TWO 25 BTC Casascius coins, agreed to send 50 BTC to you because he is holding the two coins while trying to sell them?

Which was last agreed upon on August 24th, 2014? (over 2.5 months ago)

So minus the 0.5 BTC he still owes 49BTC + any premium he sells the coins for?

...did I get that right?

in the beginning of the thread I gave a link to his thread where he sells those two last coins,
they have been sold for months now

I even asked why did he delete original post of that thread, announcement of sale,
of course I added that exact original post too, all is here


from pms you can see he said he sold all but those two 25's

in the beginning of this thread, there is a link to his sale thread of those last two coins,
sale is completed,
and even before he sold them, he agreed to pay me their nominal value

I should have gotten 50 btc in either case, sold or not,
long time ago

and than there are 2 x singles with error
unpaid,
his intention was to grade them for me, I accept them graded, non graded or their btc value,

but that is less important now, since he IS a scammer
43  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 17, 2014, 11:15:01 PM

Please post proof of your bolded claim above.

If you have proof of this this should be grounds to likely be considered a scammer/liar in my eyes. But this is only true if you can 100% prove your claim.

If it was a PM on this forum, Theymos or another admin can confirm it or deny it.

To be clear at this time I am not claiming Charlie to be a scammer or not as I do not know all of the facts.

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Quote from: bracek on July 26, 2014, 10:37:12 PM


If you want to send them to me also, I'm sure I can sell them


ok, but not all in the same shipment

bye

Looking forward to the shipment! Im lining up some buyers, Id be able to sell them quickly for you!

Let me know when shipped.
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Quote from: bracek on July 29, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
that website I gave you for tracking is useless,
so I went to the post office,
they confirmed it has left croatian customs

and it will not arrive in 3-5 working days, but 10-12,
said the same clerk that took the package ?!?!
she denies she said 3-5 days yesterday...

at least, its moving

are you already "selling" them ?
It might help to have reservations and fixed prices until the actual trades happen

Yes I found the tracking already

RB794077455HR

http://ips.posta.hr/IPSWeb_item_events.asp?itemid=RB794077455HR&Submit=Submit

Yes I already sold 20 out of 30 !

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« Sent to: bracek, Yankee (BitInstant) on: August 02, 2014, 10:06:31 PM »
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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on August 02, 2014, 06:53:26 PM
Quote from: bracek on July 31, 2014, 09:09:04 PM
Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on July 31, 2014, 09:00:26 PM

Just got an email it arrived in NYC !!

nice Smiley

Got the coins!!

I sold 24 so far, so send me a Bitcoin address  Grin I told you I can sell them!

I may have all 30 sold within a few days.

Let me know about your other coins, you can see the tracking here, it came pretty fast: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=RB794077455HR

Charlie

All 30 sold!!!

I owe you 90 BTC  Grin

Tell me where to send the funds

Charlie

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so far so good, those coins mentioned above were paid

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now about the second shipment
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Quote from: bracek on August 03, 2014, 11:06:26 PM


How many of each and what are the rest of the coins?

10x single with error @2.8
2 x single without error @1.4 ?
2 x 5btc @7
2 x 25 @ 27


I am sending to the same address, from the same postal office, to make it shorter, since now clerks know what and how to package

Ok cool

Thanks!
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Are you 100% sending me all these coins? I want to presell them but I need to know forsure before I offer them out.


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Quote from: bracek on August 08, 2014, 11:37:15 PM
package is in new york,

if you are sending my 2 to be graded, please select the best looking ones

so, you really did not have any profit on the first shipment ?


Of course I did. OK

I presold these coins as well. However, Its hard selling these 25's
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« Sent to: bracek on: August 16, 2014, 09:10:53 PM »
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Quote from: bracek on August 13, 2014, 11:00:48 PM
the package has a return to sender option included,
if it is not picked up in time,
it will be shipped back to me, lets avoid that

Hey,

Package is at the post office, Im going to pick it up on Monday.

Ive sold all the coins, except for the 25's, I also kept 2 error coins to get graded for you.

So far:

8   1 BTC Error 2011
2   1 BTC 2011
2   5 BTC error 2012

= 39.2 I owe you.

As soon as I pick up the package, I will send you this BTC Smiley

Charlie
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so far so good, I got those paid as well, but now starts the trouble, I asked for those 25-s to be paid their nominal value,
no risk for him to do it, so I suggested he pays me 50 btc before he sells them
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Quote from: bracek on August 18, 2014, 05:57:53 PM

actually, could you pay me 50 btc for them, and the rest when/if they get sold ?

Sorry for the delay in responding, I had some personal things to work on this week.

I guess I can send you 50 BTC, its only fair, Im holding onto your coins.

Send me your BTC address, Ill send it over.

Cheers.

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after that he goes nonresponsive, and into evasion mode,
starts going personal and making diversions...

so here we are

I guess theymos or some other admin can confirm those above are valid copy/pastes  from my inbox

44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 16, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
you said you have enough usd to cover the debt,
what is going on with all this stalling ?
I want my money back !
@bracek - Do you dispute the first post that Charlie posted in this thread? In case you have forgotten what he wrote, here it is:
Hey Bracek,

I havent been online in a few days, nor received any emails from you.

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"

For the record, you mailed me 200 BTC + worth of physical Bitcoins which I sold on your behalf. I've paid you over 150 BTC so far and told you I'd pay you when I sell the coins. I still have not sold all the coins and have been paying you anyways (I still have a few left). I am happy to pay you the rest if you contact me.

I PM'd you my email address again.

Charlie
I added the bold because it is the reliant paragraph. It says that he would pay you as he is able to sell the coins, in other words he is going to act as your agent and was not buying them from you. IMO if this statement is true then you have no claim to any bitcoin from Charlie until he actually sells the coins and the buyer acknowledges receipt and confirms they will not ask for a refund. 

the guy is lying a lot about many things, there is no way to know if he sold coins or not, he first said to me that he sold them all long ago,
after that statement I waited more than a month and opened this thread

you have the payment address in this thread with all btc sent to it,

all but second transaction (0.5 btc), are from Charlie
total agreed value of the deal was 198 btc
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 15, 2014, 10:45:18 PM
Just sent another 1.5

83bee54a5a1e7cd5f20c15b36e065d45e3cef208b09d6986d96f7d2f3bffdb28

Will keep sending payments until full debt is paid. 22.76BTC paid so far. I've been sending payments every few days as I sell coins.

I sent some of the coins to be graded, and will be putting up the rest of the coins here to pay Bracek for them.

Charlie

you said you have enough usd to cover the debt,
what is going on with all this stalling ?
I want my money back !
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 12, 2014, 01:05:23 PM
thank you, guys,
for your support,

the game that is being played on me is becoming obvious
47  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 09, 2014, 09:11:18 PM
Charlie, where are you, why the delay ?
what is going on ?
48  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 09, 2014, 11:00:54 AM
people, I hope you see now what kind of guy he really is,
beware...

If I ever get my btc back, it will be because he saw a bigger chunk to steal elsewhere.

Maybe Charlie is low on cash (btc) and is having problems ponying up the required btc.

well, he addressed that one too,
said explicitly that I need not worry,
that he has more than enough to cover the debt

and even so,
how come he spent my money in the first place ?
I don't think it is accurate to say that he spent your money. The agreement was for him to sell the physical coins on your behalf and he would send you the money as he sold the coins (after the buyer confirmed receipt and confirmed there were no problems with them.

It was only after you opened a frivolous scam accusation against him that did he agree to pay you ahead of schedule

I admire your strength to sustain the wrong view,
nothing is frivolous here, guy is not returning my money,
he said he sold the coins long ago and did not pay up

nothing is ahead of schedule, and those first two payments were described as a token of good will ?
come on

lets do this :
send me some coins, and I'll give you third of them back as a show of good will,
do we have a deal ?
49  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 09, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
people, I hope you see now what kind of guy he really is,
beware...

If I ever get my btc back, it will be because he saw a bigger chunk to steal elsewhere.

Maybe Charlie is low on cash (btc) and is having problems ponying up the required btc.

well, he addressed that one too,
said explicitly that I need not worry,
that he has more than enough to cover the debt

and even so,
how come he spent my money in the first place ?
50  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out on: November 06, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
people, I hope you see now what kind of guy he really is,
beware...

If I ever get my btc back, it will be because he saw a bigger chunk to steal elsewhere.
51  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is a scammer, watch out on: November 05, 2014, 09:24:38 AM
Thanks Walter.

I addressed the payment this morning, about 7 hours ago.

Since this is going to get dragged into public whether anyone likes it or not, we might as well ask for clarification for the record - by "addressed the payment," do you mean you mailed the rest of it, as fiat currency?  Or am I confused?

Hey Walter,

What I meant by 'addressed' was that I addressed the issue. I told Bracek that every week he would receive a payment. I ended up sending 2 payments the first week a few days apart to show my commitment. Next payment is due this coming week.



hey, Charlie,
can you "address the issue" some more ?
52  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: November 04, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
why iz none of you righteous boyz calling Charlie out ?

he did not honor his words, again...

Sorry for my brevity but what exactly did Charlie not do?

he said he will make payments weekly,
no btc incoming since october 11th

I guess he is again "offline for a few days"

Can you quote your claim?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=817069.msg9320804#msg9320804
53  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: November 04, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
why iz none of you righteous boyz calling Charlie out ?

he did not honor his words, again...

Sorry for my brevity but what exactly did Charlie not do?

he said he will make payments weekly,
no btc incoming since october 11th

I guess he is again "offline for a few days"
54  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: November 03, 2014, 09:55:32 AM
why iz none of you righteous boyz calling Charlie out ?

he did not honor his words, again...
55  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 25, 2014, 07:44:38 AM
at least op is getting bitcoins back..  Smiley

something is better then nothing.. esp in the bitcoin world.


thanx,
you are one of the few bringing reason to this thread
56  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 24, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
oh, come on , Walter !!
you are such a boot licker

You are calling me out, while he did not do his part of the deal,
this is unreal

whats in it for you ?


57  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 24, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
Barcek,

Whatever your issue maybe with Charlie, he is dealing with you in a professional, calm, clear, and straightforward manner.  If you are getting weekly payments where he is paying you for physicals he hasn't even sold yet, I really think you should settle down here.  At this pace you'll be fully paid within a month.  Charlie has publicly stated you'll be paid in that time frame.  I personally don't know of anything more solid you could have him say.  You've gotten assurances, and you're getting paid.  What more do you want here?

please,

Whatever your issue maybe with Charlie, he is dealing with you in a professional, calm, clear, and straightforward manner.

pick on him not being consistent in his statements, using ad hominems and so on,
I just want my money



If you are getting weekly payments

I am not getting weekly payments
come on, whose boy are you ?
why post here if you just skimmed through this thread, if even that ?



At this pace you'll be fully paid within a month.

actually, I will not, check the dates, and you will see it to
and come back here to check what happens a month from now...


Charlie has publicly stated you'll be paid in that time frame.

he said a lot of things...

What more do you want here ?
what do you want, what is your interest here ?
I have been polite all the way
58  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 24, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
look,
you keep polishing your story, but only when I squeeze a bit more,
I stand same ground from the beginning

another thing,
you are making ad hominems and using your social leverage over me,
while I am here because you hold my money,
not quite the same weight of argument,
so don't take position of being mature about this and trying to make me seem childish

as you said, I had the information you sold the coins, and did not get money for a long time,
than you stopped responding to my messages here,

so, what does it look like ?



I doubt "a phone call" would settle anything,
when public pressure in this thread yielded only a fraction of the debt in so much time.

59  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 24, 2014, 09:31:29 AM
I have looked through the entire thread and do not see anything that would indicate the coins are sold.

It was mentioned that he though he could sell the coins "fast" however this was not defined more precisely.

I hope that you understand that you harassing him on this thread is only going to hamper his ability to sell the coins as any buyer will need to place a certain level of trust in him.

I would think that you are trying to hang his pending sentencing over his head to to try get him to pay you quicker then he agreed so he can not look bad in front of the judge when he is sentenced. This agreement appears to be very clear however you are demanding that the agreement be changed, and you attempt to change it without even telling Charlie that the agreement has changed, but instead open a scam accusation


coins are sold, at least he said so through pm-s
months ago

than I waited some more after the last coins were sold,

and he makes me wait some more now

all this seems weird and overreacted only because I did not show our private messages here,
if you saw them, than you would be quiet or would say something else

you think I just happened to write he is a scammer ?
for fun ?

and don't take what he said here as absolute truth,
as I said in a negative feedback, it is a very smooth play
that is going on here...

60  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Charlie Shrem is scamming me, watch out on: October 23, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
payments have stopped,

Charlie said to me , earlier,
that he sold the coins , all but those mentioned here,
even added a remark that he said he could do it fast,

all coins are sold, yet, I am not getting my money back

why ?
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