Wait, are you saying I've been scammed?

Yeah that's pretty much all that happens in Brighton.

Holy moly that's spot on. I'd buy that for a dollar.  Oh wait, I just did.

Great timing - just what I was looking for.

OK, not really. But sounds fun. Can I get a shit drawing of Brighton Pavilion for the local Bitcoin group?

Here's a photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brighton_Royal_Pavilion.jpg or you might be able to find 1 or 2 more somewhere on internet.

Experiencing how net forums work is way more useful than seeing how Bitcoins work ;-) Good on you though. As a parent of a 3-year-old,  the important part is just getting them used to it.

To the next generation!

Quick bump as a reminder, plus important update - we're now meeting from 6pm onwards, as there's a bit of a clash with a charity gig later in the evening. Phil who runs the club and is taking Bitcoins should be around to chat as well. If the music is too loud (or too quiet) we may move - will leave directions at the Blind Tiger if so, but will probably be the Fountainhead if we're not there.

Drop me a PM here, or get in touch with me @6loss on Twitter, if you're lost/confused...

Yeah, the date stamp thing is odd. Is there any chance you opened the same file twice at the same time?  KeePassX locks the file and warns you if it's already open, but you *can* ignore the warning, at which point there's a risk only passwords from one of the open files get saved, and the other gets overwritten.

Just to check, have you looked in the "Backup" group if you have one? My KeePassX certainly has one, but not exactly sure what it saves or how long for.

The 3rd Brighton Bitcoin meetup is happening on Tuesday 28th January, and rather excitingly we might have enough of a "hash" of Bitcoiners [1] to make our coins usable. We'll be meeting at the Blind Tiger club, who are very interested in taking Bitcoins and will (glitches excepting) have a QR code setup for us to use to buy actual, real world beer.

Here's the Eventbrite signup page to say you're coming:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/brighton-bitcoin-january-tickets-10078341591

Here's the (latest) Google group thread for the meetup:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/brighton-bitcoin/IKAyVL3ljo4

Sign up to the group for future announcements at:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/brighton-bitcoin

Look out for the Bitcoin symbol and a copy of Bitcoin Magazine. Should be a good one, see you there.

- Scribe

[1]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365006.msg3922353#msg3922353

Nice tracing. I followed it from there a bit.

From that 400k transaction there's one address sending 25k - 1AxP9ex3rm2LpsdM5NZ4ed3qT4asVX6E72. This in turn gets funded by 16GJ6iK1S2R8XV4tjwbRzvThUUQTXYqrhW on 2010-10-16, which previously got 25k coins from 1CRZpkKKAt7G5uiK4JPBjBJGnozgiatFAs.

This last address actually pops up on the forum in July 2010, in the first post from NghtRppr at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30.msg2452#msg2452 :


(bitcoin2cash.com now redirects to localbitcoins.com) Looking back, NghtRppr was doing a few trades at that time. A few months later, in September 2010, the coins start to get sold to a few people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303.0

Working back up the chain, 1CRZ sent to 16GJ6 in this txn at 2010-10-15 22:14:28 (according to blockchain.info), although the 45k got split into 20k and 25k - I guess one of those was change. Looking through NghtRppr's thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303.0, there's a post from jimbobway at 2010-10-16 01:54:56 (I'm assuming my timestamps are all syncing up, but...) saying he got coins through:


Perhaps not much evidence beyond timing coincidence to directly link the two, but TBH, it's kind of just fun digging into it.

The 25k in 1GJ6 then got moved completely in one transaction later on the 16th to 1AxP9, and then into 1AYtn on 2011-01-27.

Most of the transactions since then are on 2011-03-01 and 03-02, looks like maybe someone running a mix on the coins at this point? But there are one or txns getting in the way between that and the 1AYtn address, so still no real direct link.

Thanks Scotjam - mine came through today. Comparing them to the Casascius coins, obvious differences are they're slightly smaller, but a bit heavier. They also don't have the public key available on the coin itself, so keep a backup of the key that gets sent along with it...

Have to admit I couldn't resist taking one out of the case. Does feel pretty good in the hand, nice weight and good shine.

Cheers again!

I think the main thing to remember is that bank accounts aren't kept open purely for your benefit (as a customer) - they're more just a way for banks to look after and use your money. Defending against fraud is more important to banks as it affects their actual bottom line, rather than whether a few people decide to "like" their bank or not.

From what I've seen, there are 2 things to look out for - firstly, risk of "infection" from accounts involved in fraudulent activity, such as money laundering. And secondly, "abnormal patterns" which flag up "unusual" activity against an account. Setting up an account recently, I noticed they ask a few questions about expected incomings/outgoings, so it may be worth asking in advance about this, to avoid going outside expected bounds. A bit like telling them you're going to be using your card abroad.

Whether you actually have any control over either of these is another matter, natch.

A hash of bitcoiners? We'll work on em, but suspect pubs in the centre of Brighton don't feel too threatened by a small group of geeks walking out ;-)

No idea - didn't manage to get a photo. Almost sounded like it got "intercepted" (badly, no envelopes being steamed open) while on route. (The one sent to me was fine.) Always good to disguise coin-shaped thing sin the post, I guess.

Not yet... Maybe we can persuade them as part of the evening.  Thinking of running a QR code for drinks though - open booze pot?

Some time ago, a few of us tried charting the entries on the wiki page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35083.0

But over time, a) the wiki got cleaned up so counts were all over the place, and b) I suspect the page became less updated and relevant anyway, so not as much use any more.

Go with gut instinct, I reckon.

Has anyone proactively asked their bank about their stance on Bitcoin? FirstDirect seem very happy to chat generally, but not sure how much control over the account they have, given they're backed by HSBC. Might give them a call some time anyway. (And has anyone had any issues with using an HSBC/FirstDirect account for trading?)

Short notice (as always), but we'll be meeting up in the Prince George pub in Brighton on Wednesday, 6pm til late. Look out for the Bitcoin Magazine.

More details here, plus feel free to shout if you're coming so we know what size table to nab
http://bitcoinlife.wordpress.com/2013/12/06/brighton-bitcoin-meetup-ii-next-week/

Also worth joining the Brighton Bitcoin list at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/brighton-bitcoin for future announces.

See you there...

Cheers for the update. Hope the delivery goes through OK - I know Casascius Mike funds his coins *after* they arrive, so they don't have value on import.

Also heard a slightly odd tale of someone sending a small wooden disc through the post, only to have it replaced with a circle-shaped hole on arrival. No idea if that it was a deliberate heist or some other effect, but strange all the same.

Playing around with the bitcoin: protocol, and noticed that when I scan an NFC tag with a "bitcoin:..." value using an Android phone, blockchain.info opens with a screen to send money, but doesn't then pre-populate the target address. Is this a bug in the app, or am I using the protocol wrongly, eg should it be "bitcoin://..." instead? Link works in a different app OK.