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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: UCoin Cash - is this a good ICO or a scam? on: November 15, 2017, 03:35:48 PM
Can't create an account, did i missed it? Or will this function be available again after the 1st period of ICO? Any ideas?
42  Economy / Speculation / Re: Roger Ver's trick to drop BTC to $1300: a call to whales to SELL NOW PLEASE! on: November 15, 2017, 01:56:16 PM
imagine if people sold because of the cancelled hardfork? That's what i think. We expected BTC to become "better" and it didn't happen. We expected some "free money" from the fork - it didn't happen. Transactions got stuck. People moving to BCH is very reasonable to my mind.

43  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Basic income debate on: November 15, 2017, 01:40:29 PM
Just ask yourself: What brings more money to those who are already the richest people on earth?
Wars, diseases, crime - all of them cost a lot of money so they gain a lot of profit for certain people.

+ no one of the government nor any great mogul wants you to be happy or healthy. Happiness doesn't bring money. Sickness brings money.



Having money makes people lives so much better FACT..
Now having no money makes people lives sad FACT..



Only in our's today societey. Imagine living on a lonely island by your own, having nothing more than your little tent, some chicken and coconuts. No worries about debts or crime. Would you be unhappy? I don't think so  Roll Eyes
44  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Bitcoin Markplatz on: November 15, 2017, 01:28:13 PM
Würde auch eher zu Kraken tendieren. Ist zwar eine entsprechende Validierung nötig, aber immer noch besser als dass die eigenen Daten weitergegeben werden (bitcoin.de).
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 15, 2017, 10:45:47 AM
Going to lock this topic by the end of the day since my question seems to be answered and nobody cares for what my purpose was.

There is no technical advantage.

Thank you all for your participation in this topic and your points of view, i appreciate it.
46  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 15, 2017, 10:29:15 AM
"My product is extraordinary but people don't know it" - every investor will go in.

We're not talking hairdryers or nose hair trimmers. People here constantly overstate the tech and completely disregard the monetary aspect.

Bitcoin has no technical advantages over other coins. None. Many of them simply are Bitcoin with a couple of tweaks.

What Bitcoin does have is everything that surrounds it that other coins do not. That includes hash rate, trust, acceptance, profile. That's pretty much impossible to obtain.

Money cannot buy it. You can't scare people into awarding it. Bcash will learn that. It has to be earned.

If Bumcoin had that we'd be on Bumcointalk instead regardless of how good or bad technically Bumcoin was.



>.<

Don't get me wrong. I absolutely understand what you're saying. But my personal opinion is totally different and that's why i asked FOR A TECHNICAL ADVANTAGE disregarding every other component that makes Bitcoin valuable. I don't want to offend anyone or make Bitcoin "bad". I just want an honest discussion about its technology.

But if you guys really want a good example why i think Bitcoins popularity is worth nothing - Think of Nokia. (i really really really don't want the discussion into this direction, please keep in mind)
47  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 15, 2017, 10:04:47 AM
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The tech aspect can't be disentangled from the trust and robustness.
I disaggree with that. Also, i explicitly asked for a technical advantage.

Imagine this situation:

A company makes a pitch and says to the investor:
"My product sucks but people believe in it. There are far better products on the market but people don't care."

And what is easier for a company?
Marketing or technical development?


It is marketing. So whenever a company comes and says  "My product is extraordinary but people don't know it" - every investor will go in. Sales and building trust can be very easy with the right team.

Also, look for this article (especially the guys from some posts above):

https://cointelegraph.com/news/how-close-did-bitcoin-get-to-disastrous-chain-death-spiral




48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Top 100 Coins CMC Minus Vaporware Shitcoins on: November 15, 2017, 09:42:18 AM
Some of those cryptocoins included in your list should arguably not be there. You said you removed the useless ones, but some people in the community would say that Dash and Ethereum Classic should be there and Dogecoin should not.

I reckon that you should make your basis for useful clear.

Some of those cryptocoins included in your list should arguably not be there. You said you removed the useless ones, but some people in the community would say that Dash and Ethereum Classic should be there and Dogecoin should not.

I reckon that you should make your basis for useful clear.
Yeah i would like to know why you excluded DASH but included DOGE as well.
Also Zcash & Stratis missing. At least you got Bitshares in  Roll Eyes

It's pretty obvious. Dogecoin serves as the meme king of cryptocurrency. It's kind of a big deal. Dash is overvalued as shit and there's a lot of evidence to support dev team or some other major entity is artificially pumping trading volume.

ZCash is just shitty, centralized, not actually anon Monero.

Metal was flavor of the month a month or two ago.

Don't actually know what stratis does tbh
I like such "constructive" post. This is shitty, that is shit, i have no facts to proove that, bump my topic. List not really valid for me since no explaination is added.
49  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 15, 2017, 09:32:17 AM
Thanks for your replies!
So, what do we have so far:

1. Bitcoin was the 1st crypto

2. It's most secure because of its hashrate

3. It's the most popular crypto

Are these really advantages? I don't think so. Basically Bitcoin is just the #1 crypto by popularity, resulting in better security.
As soon as the technology itself gets more attention from companies and the masses of private People, other Projects will gain in popularity, too. When this happens, technical advantage and usability is worth much more.

You missed one (extremely!) important point. The first mover advantage.
Bitcoin is here for the longest time. It has proven to stand a lot of attacks. Look at the last pump/dump of BCH/BTC.
This obviously was an attempt to "attack" bitcoin and make money out of BCH. Market manipulation at its finest.
And BTC took this attempt pretty calm. Its no longer that vulnerable to such dumps/manipulations.

The "better projects" you mentioned wouln't stand against such an attack. They would get pumped and dumped to almost zero afterwards.
Whales (like in recent btc/bch dumps) could (pretty easily) destroy such projects which don't have such a big userbase and trust.
BTC has the biggest userbase and the most trust. It established itself in the crypto market (which can't be said about most of those shitcoins altcoins).


Edit: Just noticed the "technical"-tag. Technically there probably is no real (big) advantage over other coins. But technical advantage is not what makes a crypto currency
accepted and trustworthy. the technical part is important.. but don't underestimate the psychological effects.
Is it an advantage that Bitcoin has been here for the longest time? Or only an achievement? I guess last. It could be any other coin that would have been there first.
Also, the rise of Bitcoin itself is somehow market manipulation since it's only used to make money and not a real product (it's not used as what it's intended to be). The psychological effects you mean will blur out the older the technology gets and when people start to actually USE cryptos instead of just trading them.
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 14, 2017, 02:48:00 PM
No one? As expected.  Grin
51  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: From 0.1 to 1 BTC in 6 months with Day-Trading on: November 14, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
Good signal from GRS Groestlcoin. Roadmap is about to be published in the upcoming days. Current price only 7800 sats each.
52  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-13] Chess Legend Garry Kasparov: Bitcoin Is Pure Speculation on: November 14, 2017, 12:28:15 PM
because, according to him, about 80% of all available bitcoins are circulating in exchanges and financial markets, and are never truly used in any other industry, meaning they only serve investors

He is totally right with that - it's a fact.
If blockchain technologies get mass adopted it will not be bitcoin that will be used. Why should it? There are far better projects with lower transaction fees & time, less mining or even no mining, much more anonymity and so on. Bitcoin will always remain a speculative bubble and if we're lucky, it will stay the "gold" of cryptos. Nothing more or less.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Top 100 Coins CMC Minus Vaporware Shitcoins on: November 14, 2017, 12:00:14 PM
Some of those cryptocoins included in your list should arguably not be there. You said you removed the useless ones, but some people in the community would say that Dash and Ethereum Classic should be there and Dogecoin should not.

I reckon that you should make your basis for useful clear.
Yeah i would like to know why you excluded DASH but included DOGE as well.
Also Zcash & Stratis missing. At least you got Bitshares in  Roll Eyes
54  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much capital to you day trade with? on: November 14, 2017, 08:28:30 AM
I use about 50% of my funds ( ~ 2,000$) for daytrading, rest is being hold for the long term.
As stated before, you can't really set a daily goal or somethink like that. I don't stick to a single coin but try to divide it into 2-4. I buy in a dip and sell at about + 5-10%. It is highly depending on the current market situation of the coin. But 1% daily is achievable. I started with around 500$ back in June.
55  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Do you need a day trader?? bank roll a winner! make great money everyday! on: November 14, 2017, 07:23:44 AM
Sorry to inform you that i don't have to put a tread on me.
YOU should be the one explaining his skills and defining himself, not me.
But still you end up in unimportant little things.

Additionally, i think i don't have to explain why it's not safer to trade with higher volumes. I will make it easy for you: The more you have, the more you can lose.
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: November 13, 2017, 03:34:01 PM
Grin Grin Grin i can't stop laughing. So guys all don't do drugs hm? So you don't eat sugar, nor drink coffee / energy drinks or repeat any funny activity that you did before (what is some kind of addiction since you're addicted to the "good feeling" - serotonine and dopamine).

After all, all drugs do is pouring out your available supply of happiness hormones.
You're welcome.  Grin

#enlightenYourSoul
BBbbbut coffee is legal!1 Roll Eyes
and so is alcohol but it's the most dangerous drug. Heroine was legal and treated as medicine in the 1930s.

.. but i like your sarcasm Wink
57  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Do you need a day trader?? bank roll a winner! make great money everyday! on: November 13, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
I don't fully understand your question? I need more fund because instead of making a trade for 2000, i can make a trade for 20,000. or even 200,000. more money = less risk.

I am a cross-market trader. with 9 years of experience

also, i will let Phillip speak for himself but he has invested 4 btc and his current ballance is 5.27719 btc in less than 2 weeks
I will sum up for you.

1. "More Money = less risk" - Best joke i heard so far. And that after 9 years of "experience".
2. "..invested 4 BTC and has now 5.2 BTC in 2 weeks" - so not even with your "main" bankroll you make 1.2 BTC (lets say it's 7500$) in 2 weeks. But you need more? (oh forgot that more money = less risk)

No one should fall for this.
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: November 13, 2017, 02:38:02 PM
 Grin Grin Grin i can't stop laughing. So guys all don't do drugs hm? So you don't eat sugar, nor drink coffee / energy drinks or repeat any funny activity that you did before (what is some kind of addiction since you're addicted to the "good feeling" - serotonine and dopamine).

After all, all drugs do is pouring out your available supply of happiness hormones.
You're welcome.  Grin

#enlightenYourSoul
59  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Show me one TECHNICAL advantage of Bitcoin on: November 13, 2017, 02:28:31 PM

And after bitcoin, there lot new project has better improvement in term of technology. Bitcoin algo very costly in term of electricity and network....

But in term of value, bitcoin become most higher value because it was 1st cryptocurrency with log adopters....previous project mostly failed

So there nothing really special in bitcoin technology....not new innovation or something amazing. For programmer and database engineer, this not big thing...but bitcoin make this concept popular among non tech people...
And it sound big and lot of people trow money on blockchain project...Bank system etc. It because decision maker aware with this concept, thank to bitcoin and ask tech people to implement this. Nothing new

Thanks for your words. That's exactly what i mean - bitcoin is only hyped. (what is ok since it brings the whole market forward)
Still i'm excited if ANYBODY can show me a real benefit of bitcoin... (and i really mean BITCOIN, not blockchain technology itself)
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: UCoin Cash - is this a good ICO or a scam? on: November 13, 2017, 02:09:47 PM
I will also go in with 100$ to 200$. Bitconnect, Regal and Hextra already proved that this might be a good investment for the short term.
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