Kimden alacak ve daha önemlisi daha sonra kime satacak?!

Tüm şartlar oluşsa bile piyasada dolaşmayan bir meta değersizdir bu altın bile olsa elmas bile olsa alıcı-satıcı yoksa tıpkı toprağın altına gömülü haldeki gibi hükümsüzdür.

Bu kadar BTC kimin işine yarar sorusu da ikinci bir açmaz zira diğer emtiaların farklı kullanım alanları mevcutken BTC sadece blockchain ve türevlerinden ibaret bir "takas" aracı. Dikkat ettiyseniz para demedim zira "kripto paralar" kavramını ben çok yanlış buluyorum; çünkü geleneksel olmayan bir yapısı var ve geleneksel olmaması yüzünden para demek yersiz. Neyse bu konu başka bir konu 

Yani özetle diyorum ki o kadar naneyi kim ne yapsın 

Totally agree with your arguments for any investment basically. Those can be helpful for newbies or even experienced ones to remember the rules. Some guys doing All In for any altcoins that makes them to loose near all profit and investments.

And other point is that Patient(HOLDER) or Hotman(Trader) being. Many people can not decide which role is more profitable for their invests. The rule may be that 50% sell 50% hold that I generally apply

You should do search yourself.

DO NOT BELIEVE in anyone here for project advices cause most of them just "fanboys" who can make you fault. Then DIY process is there.

5 ETH is enough to buy for efficient coin/token in most of ICO projects however finding true one is hard. You can use some ICO rating tools on the net though you have to decide by yourself. Promising projects out there but as I said find them with your own effort.

nearly 3 billion people have Internet connection however so many people have no idea about blockchain then crypto moneys though. And most of people have no chance to buy/invest enough virtual moneys on blockchain.

in the near future we can/may see increment of new investors as massively but no any sign of it yet. the first thing should interact and attract already crypto knowers to invest on coin&altcoins.

more people mean more supply and demand then win-win for all of us.

Eğer geldilerse ki gelmiş olsalar arz-talep ilişkisi bağlamında bakıldığında yükselme eğiliminde olurduk, tam aksine bir düşüş var tüm markette. Demek ki çoktur beklenen bu likidite sağlanmadığı için genel bir düşüş yaşanıyor. Mevcut yatırımcı elindekileri büyük oranda daha yüklü alım yapabilecek yeni ve çok daha büyük yatırımcı üzerinden çıkarmak isterken, o beklenen taze kan gibi sıcak para bir türlü girmedi (en azından beklendiği kadar)

Bundan sonrasını ise daha parlak görüyorum açıkçası çünkü her yatırımcı gibi büyükler de az maliyet çok kar oranında kripto paralara yaklaşacakları için düşük seyreden piyasaya bir şekilde gireceklerdir. Kısmen girişten ziyade geniş katılımlı ve teknolojiye-altyapıya yani orta uzun vade ekseninde yatırım yapacaklarını düşünüyorum.

Misal, Microsoft gelecek adına IOTA/DAG ile yol almayı önceleyecek olsa bizler gibi sadece tutup da belirli bir miktar coin almaz, ne yani para mı çevirecek koca Microsoft? 

Özetle:

Ciddi yatırımcı hala sistemi çözmeye ve ileriye dönük planlama yapmaya çalışıyor. Belki çoktan yapılanları deniyor simüle ediyorlardır 

Very huge part of the bounties are SCAM Unfortunately...

Dissolute persons are like endless curve of all the world from beginning of humankind. New type of is Blockchain Robbers... Because of them we can not trust anyone. I had given so much energy on Bounties & Airdrops however as you typed %60 or more were scam. Robber developers have left their professional works and jobs for scamming persons in blockchain/crypto, very sadly...

Crypto world is like a paradise for scammers as with its anonymity, trutless side and being virtual. If I were a developer try to do great works like app development, find out new techs etc. Woefully, that men/women just try to scam us. Intelligence only goes to hell!

I hope all that scammers will meet a sticky death, soon!..

Your idea is awesome as much as silly  . Global inflation never allows that everyone to be millionaire. No any chance for everyone to get profit 2000 <>200 million. Moreover within in a year, woah unbelievable target most of others -me too-

Yeap someone already did however only "someone(s)" then please do not be hope monger  All we want to be rich but via smart and realistic investments, pain-gain cycle. Effortless dreams always gonna be as dreams.

Awake men/women awake...   

Really appreciated with your constructive comment. Hope to see Qubes OS will over come that all issues. For now, I'm gonna go same way with you, an offline machine side of my operational one. Cheaper than loosing my funds 



For anonymity Tail OS is awesome but for safety I'm not sure as well. Tried it several times however for daily use Tails some boring 

I do not subscribe to that idea Wawes can be compareable with Bitcoin. Those are too much different side of coins and their aspects, targets are really diversified. In that case comparing them will be faulty state for crypto world.

Waves simply a platform which has own DEX and tradable with other altcoins too however BTC is just pioneer of virtual moneys and cryptic money transactions. There is no special stuff for BTC's tech, yeah I know what I say. Unfortunately we can not talk about BTC's tech as how it was great cause it has no terrific abilities for now what according to other coins like Ethereum or Waves.

Then we can maybe compare with Ethereum vs Waves vs NEO etc. Although some views here, I can not see any point to versus of BTC to Waves

The logic behind the merit system is promotive however conditions seem very disruptive for users. So many users tired that I've seen here to use BTCTalk. All their critique is hard to collect that merit points. They can be right on this point cause there is no exact answer for collecting merit points in forum.

Even me still can not get the mind that how to collect/pay merits. No button or no any notifications for those merit points maybe that is related my ranking in forum, but others have same problem  .

New and developed rules may solve that confusing, I hope so 

Hello dears,

Addition to general safe precautions we should use our PC's as safely. That topic is far away than cold storing.

As you know statistically Windows > OSX/Linux in use all over the world. Then as a natural result infections and viruses for Windows is very high even no need to compare. I generally advise my friends to use Linux distrubitions for vital and critical workplace. Why? Cause Linux systems are safer than other two ones even than OSX.

And my main reason to open that new topic is, showing you more and more safe operating system in even Linux distrubitions. Qubes OS

How differs than other OS?

You may know Virtual Machines and Sandbox environments for safe launch of programs as isolated area. Qubes OS's name comes from that evironments "qubes" where isolated from each others. Giving example:

You can use MEW with Firefox/Chrome etc in a safety workplace qube and ordinary web surf side by side. Keyloggers malwares and other harmful stuff never reaches your safety qube.

For banking process you can apply ultimate safety zone with qube that never be affected other workplace.

Qubes OS is based on Fedora and compatible with Debian/Windows for virtual machine environment. That means you can use all those ones' applications in qubes as safely by your wishes.

I'm new in Qubes OS too so exploring it myself . I do not mention all details here you may look up docs of it and Google. I think you gonna like it just like me by the time of progress. I want to see other experienced users who already used or still using Qubes OS what under that topic comments. Please share with us your thoughts.

*Qubes OS can not save you cause of personal faults like sharing private key/master key on anywhere via Internet network. So QOS against to viruses/malwares

Başlığın kendisine mi kızsam bu başlığın içine bu yazdığın şeye mi kızsam bilemiyorum. Ayıptır yazıktır hem günahtır! Burada faydalı olmayan bir girdi ve onun içerisine yazılmış çok daha faydasız bir yorum ile sizler ne amaçlamaktasınız?

Ünlü siyasi halk ozanımızın da dediği gibi "Bu tip kullanıcılar ne yapmak nereye varmak istemektedir?" Keşke daha saygılı ve özverili olsanız ya da ölseniz 

The question is like "Russia or China in 5 years"  

Why have I derivate the your question? You can relate by those countries and ETH/NEO backyard. Vitalik Russian originated and NEO is China based altcoin and some ideas that altcoins are supported by that ywo countries. Then new versus comes to existence. Russia vs China?

Indirectly but realistic China will make NEO rise over ETH. Obviously ETH is higher now however for the near future Chinese investors will make NEO alike ethereum's rising. And also Ethereum's clogging problems make investors angry with it -just like me-

There were so many project which was ruled by Legend Or Senior member bounty mangers. So we can not classify as scam because of their bounty managers.

The main point is that bounty manager knows or not what rule all process. If the cycle is ok then no worry. More professional more scam maybe more true term

All crypto world have to solve this scam problem with permanent solution to be survived immediately. But how... 

Konun başlıktan bağımsız olduğu bir yazıya gelen hunharca yorumları gördükçe şaşırdım. Sandım ki bilgimize bilgi katacağımız bir kısa/uzun paylaşım göreceğim; ne yazık ki bir borsaya haklı ya da değil bir nedenle çıkışılan bir girdiymiş meğer.

Üzgünüm lakin bunu yapmak etik değil. Eğer başılığı içerik ile aynı tutarsanız hem arama motorolarında indekslenme ile konuya ait arama yapan vatandaşın ihtiyacı görülür hem de biz forumu etkin kullanırız.

Ben de bu yorum yerine alakasız bir yorum yapsam rezalet olurdu 

BTC is unstoppable via its tech -blockchain-

How can governments ban that technology regardless it's BTC or another crypto? They absolutely have to shut down all Internet connection. Is that possible for today's world? NO... So the BAN process is not permanent and partial as we see on some governments.

No worry States and Governments have to deal with Blockchain ad Crypto World 

I totally agree with you.
BTC is not money and gonna be too, but more Goldish even Diamondic stuff. So for liquidity and geenral trading BTC gonna be useless. All we accept that the showcase of blockchain was BTC. However its way is not suitable for our daily lives.

Let's talk about more how BTC will be out there as swapping tool -not money- or an ancient tech for blockchain. Sorry but ETH and others more competitive and effective for future.

Bilgilendirme için teşekkürler.

Ben de Telegram dan bir arkadaşın tavsiyesi üzerine öğrendiğim ve hayran kaldığım bir İşletim Sistemini tavsiye edeyim. Elbetteki yukarıda yazılan https:// formundaki ana web sitelerini de dahil ederek bu tavsiyede bulunayım.

İşletim sistemi bir çeşit Linux türevi Qubes OS

Çalışma mantığı ise oldukça basit ama etkili tüm çalışma alanlarını izole ederek birbirinden ayırıyor. Sanal makine ya da sandbox kullananlar bilir mevcut işletim sistemi üzerinde katmanlar oluşturarak kullanım sağlayabiliyorsunuz. Qubes OS ise güvenlikli bölgeler oluşturarak hem sanal makine hem de sandbox mantığını birleştiriyor.

Örnekle izah etmek gerekirse. Bankacılık işlemi ile internette günlük gezinti için tamamen ayrıştırılmış ve birbirlerinden izole edilmiş iki ayrı Firefox tarayıcı kullanabilirsiniz. Eğer günlük gezintilerinizde herhangi bir saldırıya maruz kalsanız bile diğer katmanda çok rahat bankacılık işleminize devam edebiliyorsunuz.

Windows kullananlar olarak potansiyel mağdur konumundayız bunun nedenlerini açmaya sanırım gerek yok. Linux'un daha ve daha güvenli olduğu da tarihsel bir gerçek henüz kayda değer bir vaka bile yok  Ben  Linux ve türevlerine yeni yeni alışıyorum ve Qubes OS'in çalışma prensibine hayran kaldım diyebilirim.

Ne keylogger derdi ne virüs-trojan derdi var. Kesinlikle tavsiye ediyorum detaylı araştırmanızı yapın ve Windows yanına ikinci işletim sistemi olarak kullanın.

Bireysel ve bariz hatalara ise henüz bir çare  yok maalesef. Tutup da private keyi forma girerseniz buna çare... 

Maybe that sound comes to you weird though I do not want to see ICOs no longer. Projects need funds for their way -especially- to be list on SHIT Centralized Exchanges (SEX)  then they need ICO. However this way is not sustainable for decentralization for the future targets.

If we are in central free area then firstly we do not need Shit Centralized Exchanges. Projects should survive with serious Bounties and Airdrops for first steps then to be listed on DEX. That will prolong crypto world otherwise because of the scams people will lose confidence and faith. The community who we are may force developers and founders to ICO free projects.

Scams and scammers in everywhere nowadays so the solving is simple. NO MORE ICOs 

Do you remember 50k, 80k + estimations for BTC by the end of 2018?
Why those predictions have been fault? If we get the answers of the second question then we can see the end of 2018

What happened till now that crashed 20k of BTC:

1- Too and abnormal speculations on it
2- Critical EX hack events
3- Very huge gap occurred with 20k and dump positions; people lost their faith
4- New and competitive altcoins pulled serious investors
6- Market lost 2x of its value in a short time; people lost their faith -again-
5- And moreover...

All that facts headshot of BTC then we can not see the future without them. All market is unpredictable and I do not believe in any analysis anymore.