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More than a month has passed now. You have time to post promotional stuff but don't care to provide me with an update on my case? You have literally scammed me for $70k and you are not even replying anymore. Please solve my case - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0How long the odds provider needs to let me withdraw my funds and how long you will just watch the odd provider fuck with a players' funds?Are you just going to let the provider SCAM ME and do nothing? then close the casino and redirect to the odds provider website directly, if you are earning commissions in between better be responsible towards the player |
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No update as yet, I don't know what to do really apart from waiting for stake. It's over a month now and the odds provider has not even provided an update so far. I don't know what kind of investigation they are doing or how much progress they have made.
Stake/stunna please at least provide an update?
I'm gambling at stake not at the odds provider website so you should be able to answer me. You cannot just leave me hanging in the middle by saying we cannot do anything, sorry.
I don't know the odds provider, I gambled and deposited at stake so from my perspective YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HANDLING MY FUNDS and providing me a resolution
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Just to clarify, there is no update from stake via email I sent more than 15 days ago
I was asked to send a selfie holding my document (for KYC which is normal) and I have done that. Let's see what happens next.
Update
They asked for a selfie and after I have provided them with it, they are now saying that my account CANNOT be verified because earlier I send fake documents. I don't understand why they asked for selfie if I was banned from submitting KYC in first place as mentioned by the support??
Just a guess, but it might have something to do with you sending in documents from 4 different people while trying to verify your own - I could see how that would make things unnecessarily complicated and result in some sort of miscommunication. Not sure but if you decide a player won't be verified then better not to ask him for selfie. Anyways I hope withdrawal only mode will be enabled once the integrity team is done with their stuff, been a month now so hopefully happens soon |
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The integrity team has not replied for 20 days and the support is NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING  |
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Just to clarify, there is no update from stake via email I sent more than 15 days ago
I was asked to send a selfie holding my document (for KYC which is normal) and I have done that. Let's see what happens next.
Update
They asked for a selfie and after I have provided them with it, they are now saying that my account CANNOT be verified because earlier I send fake documents. I don't understand why they asked for selfie if I was banned from submitting KYC in first place as mentioned by the support??
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Does everyone in your family have different last names?
I am not inclined to post my personal details here and can you answer me "why withdrawal only mode is not enabled?" and "why I am allowed to gamble if you believe I have done anything illegal?" From what I know if a player fails to complete the KYC they are put on the "withdrawal only mode" so I don't know why I am being treated differently here? Because the amount is $70k, right? I am not having any other account apart from this and I don't mind if mods want to confirm that, I don't know the other 2 guys so please don't mix my case with them. I can accuse you are running the accounts just to sway away from the real case but obviously, that's not you. I'll wait until the investigation is done and I have done nothing but stated facts that you are calling out as spam. I have lost COUNTLESS bets in the 4 years I ahve played at stake, how come they were never checked for legitimacy but as soon as I win it's being investigated? Also I am not just a random spammer, I have written articles FOR STAKE (POSITIVE) in past, ask efialtis (BTCGOSU OWNER) if you don't believe me I REPEAT, ONCE I HAVE MY FUNDS WITHDRAWN, I WILL CLOSE THE THREAD AND UPDATE ALL THE RATINGS LEFT ANYWHERE I am allowed to deposit and gamble but NOT withdraw, please explain? Mate- they aren’t going to pay you. Trust on that. Count it as a loss. Not sure what happened with your case and sorry if you were not paid, but as a player for 4 years almost, I never had issues in past so I hope they will pay out. I request you or anyone who have complaints to please avoid posting as that isn't helping my case and only making it more complicated. |
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Does everyone in your family have different last names?
I am not inclined to post my personal details here and can you answer me "why withdrawal only mode is not enabled?" and "why I am allowed to gamble if you believe I have done anything illegal?" From what I know if a player fails to complete the KYC they are put on the "withdrawal only mode" so I don't know why I am being treated differently here? Because the amount is $70k, right? I am not having any other account apart from this and I don't mind if mods want to confirm that, I don't know the other 2 guys so please don't mix my case with them. I can accuse you are running the accounts just to sway away from the real case but obviously, that's not you. I'll wait until the investigation is done and I have done nothing but stated facts that you are calling out as spam. I have lost COUNTLESS bets in the 4 years I ahve played at stake, how come they were never checked for legitimacy but as soon as I win it's being investigated? Also I am not just a random spammer, I have written articles FOR STAKE (POSITIVE) in past, ask efialtis (BTCGOSU OWNER) if you don't believe me I REPEAT, ONCE I HAVE MY FUNDS WITHDRAWN, I WILL CLOSE THE THREAD AND UPDATE ALL THE RATINGS LEFT ANYWHERE I am allowed to deposit and gamble but NOT withdraw, please explain? |
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Look how gambler friendy stake is, they let the player get fucked just because the odds provider doesn't want to pay the bet
Do you have some proof to accuse stake? I guess stake is one of the most reputed casinos out there; I'm on it & had no problem either. But it's also possible that they are selectively scamming people. Can you create a thread on scam accusations by presenting all the documents instead of sharing them here? That would be great to have a look at. Let the guy give proofs. Why should he go and create other thread while he can post everything here? If he has 100% proof of being scammed, I think it would be useful to others to see this information. But only if he has something to show us. If not, I think it is a good idea to deduct a bunch of his trust:) Nobody is stopping him from showing proofs. That's not the point. However, RapTarX was right to suggest he post new topic in the Scam Accusations section of the forum. That is the community standard and the right thing to do (given that he has valid evidence). As a result, his claims would have even more visibility, and would be more useful for other members of the forum if he adhered to the established standard. I already have a thread with all the proofs, in case you are interested to check it out. |
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Is this you:
No, that's not me. Regarding the 4 different documents: They required documents in English and refused to cooperate at all, which is why I had to submit documents of my family members. I have already told them but not sure why they are playing around the wrong point. I have provided them with everything they have asked for, I just don't understand why they cannot put the acount in "withdraw only" mode as Edward claimed on his stream. He clearly said, they are not blocking any accounts but at worst put them on withdraw only mode. If they believe I shouldn't be a player how I am allowed to gamble even now? but just not allowed to withdraw. Let's see how long the investigation takes. |
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Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake. Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future. I'm not sure about them but I have put my case as clear as I could and I agree that for anyone who has complaints with stake "please create a separate thread with proofs". In fact, once my case is sorted and whenever that happens, I will close this thread and update my review on various other platforms. I have no personal issues with stake, just need to withdraw my balance which even Stunna has confirmed now that is being held. In past I have done more than 10 articles all positive about stake so it must be clear that I have NO personal problems here neither I intend to extort money out of them. $70k is not something I can shrug off either and let it be. |
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There are a lot of casinos that follow Stake. The stake has gained a reputation over the last few years. Which is heard-earned. And I believe Stake gained massive success and competitive casinos try to follow Stake's Strategy to build up their business. But, there is a dark side to casinos. I have noticed that there are a lot of players creating scam accusations of big amounts. And it's doesn't stop. Every month we see new accusations and sometimes a couple of accusations. I don't believe all of them are lies. This is bad practice from the stake.
They are evading the question WHY I AM ALLOWED TO GAMBLE WHILE NOT ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW? I gave you a response on your thread. If you keep spamming here I will not provide you further updates period. Well, you haven't answered the question yet. How is a player allowed to gamble but not withdraw? I understand posting here dents your reputation and I have no intention to do that as long as I get my funds back. I'll avoid posting here but hope to have an update soon on the main thread. |
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Trust me, I had a friend who got scammed for 85k because they said “NBA matches were fixed” lol
I would like to request you to prove your claims. Are you Baskin's alt by any chance? We are in this thread doesn't mean that we taking any side to support. I would like to support the right side. We asked questions to both parties to be clear about the situation. Death thread is not allowed. So if you have any proof that stake Scammed your friend. Please ask him to create an accusation so everybody can be aware of them. If the thread is already created, I would like to check it out and get more experience about stake. We the forum members cannot do anything to help Victims but we can give appropriate feedback. And I actually have lot of respect for Stunna and stake to be fair. But really feels bad to have my funds locked for a month now and nothing concrete yet. IT'S WORTH MENTIONING IN PAST WHEN I WON A BET ON A GAME THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE VOID, I DEPOSITED BACK THE MONEY AND PAID BACK STAKE, GIVEN ALL THAT IT'S A SHAME STUNNA YOU ARE SEIZING MY FUNDS
I could have run away that moment since I had withdrawn them! |
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The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation.
Look man, I am gambling at stake not at the odds provider's site so obviously, I am going to question you, makes sense? Also if you are just letting the player suffer while odds provider is the king, you better mention it somewhere that odds provider can fuck any player anytime they wish and STAKE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE nor going to help Regarding cooperation, I have said many times that I am ready to provide whatever is needed. I was patiently waiting but at some point it starts to feel like "being polite was being taken as naive" |
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There are a lot of casinos that follow Stake. The stake has gained a reputation over the last few years. Which is heard-earned. And I believe Stake gained massive success and competitive casinos try to follow Stake's Strategy to build up their business. But, there is a dark side to casinos. I have noticed that there are a lot of players creating scam accusations of big amounts. And it's doesn't stop. Every month we see new accusations and sometimes a couple of accusations. I don't believe all of them are lies. This is bad practice from the stake.
They are evading the question WHY I AM ALLOWED TO GAMBLE WHILE NOT ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW? |
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@Stunna So this guy will not be able to submit the documents anymore. Right? And what is the final decision? Suppose your Provider says there is nothing wrong with his bets. What you guys are going to do then? I guess you guys will not pay him because he doesn't have any chance to verify his account anymore. Without verifying, he cannot make withdrawal requests. So, I guess we got the final answer. His funds will be confiscated if I am not wrong. Right?
Another question: Do you request users to read the TOS/TAC of the odds provider? Do they have the right to take such a long time? How do they suspect the match was fixed? Based on win and loss amount?
If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches it is likely that their account will be permanently banned. But I cannot speculate on this until the investigation is concluded. And in this situation the user is cleared they would still need to pass our compliance team's review. So you WON'T pay in both cases, right? That's not what I said. Right now your fate is primarily in the hands of our odds provider, spamming this forum is not going to make any difference. I waited for 1 month and even send you a DM and waited 1 week for an answer. How long did you expect me to wait before creating the thread? |
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@Stunna So this guy will not be able to submit the documents anymore. Right? And what is the final decision? Suppose your Provider says there is nothing wrong with his bets. What you guys are going to do then? I guess you guys will not pay him because he doesn't have any chance to verify his account anymore. Without verifying, he cannot make withdrawal requests. So, I guess we got the final answer. His funds will be confiscated if I am not wrong. Right?
Another question: Do you request users to read the TOS/TAC of the odds provider? Do they have the right to take such a long time? How do they suspect the match was fixed? Based on win and loss amount?
If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches it is likely that their account will be permanently banned. But I cannot speculate on this until the investigation is concluded. And in this situation the user is cleared they would still need to pass our compliance team's review. So you WON'T pay in both cases, right? Please answer the above question, if they deem I am not a legit player how and why I am allowed to gamble? Secondly, if a player fails to do KYC, their money is now stake's right? |
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marketing snip
If a player wins a big bet, the odds provider can seize the winnings at any moment claiming they believe the match was fixed, right?
Our odds provider is investigating what they believe are fixed matches on which this user placed bets and won on and we are still waiting on them to update us on the outcome of this.
Look how gambler friendy stake is, they let the player get fucked just because the odds provider doesn't want to pay the bet It's been more than 1 month and I have not been able to withdraw my money
I left money in my stake account and that's the biggest mistake I made
Don't gamble at stake and if you do, withdraw right away because overnight the odds provider can make theories out of thin air |
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Our odds provider is investigating what they believe are fixed matches on which this user placed bets and won on and we are still waiting on them to update us on the outcome of this. We are aware that it is a long process but there is nothing that we can do to speed it up. Due to the highly suspicious games, his account was restricted pending completion of a compliance review and the prior mentioned investigation. In the meantime he was asked to provide further KYC, which is a standard procedure in situations like this. He has sent documents of at least 4 different people in his attempts to get verified. This has now been escalated to our integrity team to review and made this situation an even more challenging one to find a way forward. So they are also coming after you with this "multi-accounting issue". It's so fucking funny when their biggest streamers talk AND SHOW it live on twitch how they play with different accounts for different "seeds", lol.
I have no idea whether or not Stake is in the right or wrong for Baskin198's case, but I think intent matters a lot for multiaccounting. I think Stake's anti-multiaccounting policy is to prevent people from farming chat rain, getting multiple VIP bonuses and entering multiple times in promotions. Most sportsbooks also really don't like players that try to multiaccount to bypass betting limits. For most streamers, none of these reasons really apply. I haven't been active on Stake for a while, but a few years ago it was pretty common to see players use "bank" accounts to save their winnings. I don't think anyone ever got banned for it as long as they didn't also use it for other things. Yes exactly this. We have a reputation built up over many years of paying every legitimate player out, I'm not going to sit here and let a bunch of a brand new shill accounts speculate that we would ever restrict someone's account for a mundane reason. I have answered your support multiple times that I submitted different documents because they demanded the documents be in English while they were in my local language. Your support denied to cooperate and hence I had to submit KYC from my family members as you can see evident from the documents too. If even I failed to complete KYC as you claim, even though I am ready to even do selfie etc, you should put my account in withdraw only mode. Can you explain how I am allowed to gamble but NOT allowed to withdraw?Which games are the odds provide investigating and how long it will take? an year or more? or until I lose my funds to gambling? |
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After trolling me for 1 month now they are saying this - https://prnt.sc/26noa86Obviously, the data I entered is correct, I don't understand what they need? On further asking to support, I have got a legendary reply - https://prnt.sc/26noawv"Hey there.
You will no longer be able to send any of your documents and your account will remain restricted." |
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Hello
But the second part was the worst part. I bet .5 ltc no 5 ltc. In over 2 months i had never betted 5 or even close to 5 ltc in one 1 bet.
Look, it's near impossible for the website to forcefully make it 5 LTC if you correctly entered 0.5 because the website is not running scripts on your computer, right? Regarding the worse odds, you can simply select accept only higher odds and you won't have to face that issue, and it looks like you are experienced sports punter so you must know this. I hope to hear from wolf bet but really it is impossible for them to make it 5 if you actually entered 0.5 |
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