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The the lack of info or any word from the dev is kinda concerning. Does anyone know if the premine address was made public?
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OH No, this is gonna be bad, what will happen to GPU miners it will go down to algo and the current of price? i've heard also 20 series nvia will released not compatible for the mining holy crap.
Lol on the 20 series. Nvidia answers to shareholders. They talk like crypto wasn’t the bulk of sales but that’s bs. They will work fine for crypto or watch their share price and sales tumble. I honestly don’t believe this one bit. BR nvidia would be just fine without miners.. I say would because Im not sure I believe they will somehow make their cards not work at mining without killing their performance at the same time. he is basing his numbers on sia (and the recent bitmain miners performance) and nothing else...
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he corrected himself in a later post, he really has 80k (or 800k, dont remember). but you do have a point, and I wonder the same all the time. IF a couple whales bought into a couple big exchanges i bet they could profit overall...
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Looking at the charts, it seems sbtc decreased in value over the last couple months MUCH more than the average coin. What happened?
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Of course they did not pay. Just keep on prolonging everything because people flocked back to them when they came back up. They have committed to paying 10% back with no timeline on the rest. Ridiculous if you ask me. They could come back and say 10% per year for 10 years. The only way to force them to pay is to stop using them till then start payouts. What is there incentive to pay back in a timely manner if everyone keeps using them?
True, but then people would have to actually learn how to mine...
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No, the Zues Hurricaine x3 (gaw black widow) is definitely not worth powering up (I have one gathering dust)
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If you sell now I can almost guarantee you will regret it. (almost)
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Yeah I would reduce the voltage/speed rather than disable cores if possible. All I have messed with are i5's and i7's but with those you can just reduce the multiplier and/or turn off turbo if you dont want to mess with figuring out a stable voltage.
Yes got it about laptops generally. Will also try other less energy using cryptos. I am now using older PC. So, how does the multiplier get reduced and /or turn off the turbo? If it is older than just turning down the multiplier than I cant help you there. I did have a q6600 that I overclocked, but I dont remember what I did (just followed some guide). Im sure if you put "How to overclock <your cpu>" you will find guides on how to overclock, then just do the opposite.
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Yeah Ill give it some time, but switching to that new miner raised my 2600k hash from 1700h/m to 2200h/m and my 3470 from 1200h/m to 1500h/m... Seriously, thank you for pointing that out.. A good 25%-30% increase. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is the huge pages and/or memory lock that gave you the increase in performance, not the miner. You'll find that veriumMiner will now see the same or similar hash rates improvements on systems that support huge pages/locked memory. Most SBC's do not. For other algo's you can use cpuminer-multi on those who do not and cpuminer-opt for optimized systems (x86_64 with AES-N)/hugh pages. FYI, If your running any ARM's need the FPU and NEON set to get better performance (add -mfpu=neon, usually in ./build.sh for compiler). not running any sbc's yet, but will before too long. You mentioned there was a spreadsheet that listed hash rates for sbc's? Wanna hook me up with the link? I think you meant to, but both are coming up with desptop cpu's. Unless there is a way to switch between them that im missing. \edit: found the sbc button at the bottom
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Yeah I would reduce the voltage/speed rather than disable cores if possible. All I have messed with are i5's and i7's but with those you can just reduce the multiplier and/or turn off turbo if you dont want to mess with figuring out a stable voltage.
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Yeah Ill give it some time, but switching to that new miner raised my 2600k hash from 1700h/m to 2200h/m and my 3470 from 1200h/m to 1500h/m... Seriously, thank you for pointing that out.. A good 25%-30% increase. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Right... Any advice on other cpu coins to check out...? Seems like 1 pool just got a ton of hash and am wondering if I should look at other options. All hash rates I have posted are stable, pool mining
edit: Maybe its not as bad as I thought. The pool is stilling giving me similar estimates and tbh I havent payed that close attention to hash rates..
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Wow man, after enabkking the huge pages thing in windows I am getting over 2200h/m on the 2600k. Thats like a 30 % increase. Thanks man. Waiting on the 3470 to update/reboot to se what if any increase I get there. I wish I would have known that a wek ago, before the hash jumped on that other pool. On the pool Im on we were getting like a block an hour... As of now we are pushing 6 hours... Im hoping we are getting unlucky and its not going to be the norm. What other coins are people mining with strickly cpu's... ? Just got done taking a look at all the pools (since none list total network hash). As of now it looks like in the pools there is about 250kh/s total. 150kh/s of that is at vrm.mining-pool.ovh. 50kh/s of it is at bloxter (id be ok with that, but it looks like their payout is at 20vrm?!? So for small miners that dont want to wait months to get to the payout, your options are 3 pools, the most having under 22kh/s, and the other 2 are under 10kh/s. Once the miners realize how much worse it just got it im sure the small ones will drop in size even more... Do all the miners crushing vrm.mining-pool want to destroy the network? Im hoping there are enough solo miners to make their hash under 50%, it would have to be like 50kh/s I think.. the wallet gives the net hash in kh/m, im guessing you just divide by 60 to get per second? If so the net hash is 381kh/s... So at least they are still under 50%... I guess.
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Looks like the mining pool that is not accepting new signups recently got a ton of hash added to it... I cant find any stats but it looks like they have an unhealthy amount of the total hash... It needs to be spread around desperately.
btw, thanks for all the info hominoid (you have the calculator and spreadsheet links swapped btw).. "There have been 24 or 32 core AMD Opteron's cheaper/for the same price. Check the sheet out (and ebay) for ideas." Are you basing that on ebay used prices? Cus I am seeing e5645's for like $20 on ebay. didnt spend much time looking yet but im seeing 16 core opterons for like $100.
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Unlock your PM’s from Newbies, I’ll send you what information I’ve been able to figure out so far.
done
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I did try a cpu miner and a pool tonight, although not the one you listed, well same pool, different miner (I’ll look into the one you posted) and got a high of 3350 with all 32 cores. I read a document today were people were submitting their rates and the processors I have are listed way higher, which is what made me think something isn’t quite running right on mine... I tried faster ram tonight, but the hashes on the Vault miner were the same, so I guess I can rule that out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1chS5Ktd9Dy4fuFIjF0-osrxCxl1_U69s9tGWVYNk1jg/pubhtmlI’m in 2 minds about pool vs Solo...I know the pool gets me a somewhat regular payout, but I like the idea of finding a block myself and getting all the reward....might try both on different machines and see... I have been mining Electroneum on all my PC’s but I’m always trying others for experience and education which is part of the fun for me....and I’m sure the Electric Company like it too :-) Yeah I have seen that spreadsheet. I dont know what to think of it though as it has the 2600k getting anywhere from 800h/s to 2200 h/s (I get around 1700 h/m on miine.) That and it has (2) core 2 duos at 2.26ghz with 4 gigs of ram listed at 3500h/m... I kinda doubt someone is getting the same hash from a core 2 due as I get on my (aging) i7. I hear yah about solo mining. I am just not a lucky person and every day I dont find a block just feels like a waste. Although the .2 fee that the network charges for transactions hurts (as iti is included in the auto withdrawals also. For that reason Im gonna end up keeping my coins on the pool much longer than I like to. I only have two computers mining atm (2600k and 3470), but once I have more hash I will probably solo on a pc or two. what kind of pay has electronuem been giving you? edit: that hash on the 4590 does seem low.. I get like 1200h/m on my 3470.
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Thanks for the response. Yeah from what I am reading I thikn sbc's are probably the way to go... The odroid xu4 gets about 350h/m - 400h/m. The mc-1 is essentially 4 of those and pull under 100 watts I believe. The startup costs will be more expensive with the odroids, but the power draw will make up for it I think. Based on the numbers from your xeons (which are better than what I have been looking at). The odroids are looking like the way to go. Which is cool as I can add them xu4 by xu4 ($60 at a time + psu, sd card). btw, you may want to look into mining in a pool. You cant use the wallet miner, but there is a cpu miner that was setup just for verium. You can get the github here https://github.com/effectsToCause/veriumMiner or direct download here https://www.poolsloth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/YateerWindowsVeriumMiner.zip. I am really skeptical of links, both these I got from the get started page in the pool Im using. You can link to them here for yourself if you want. https://vrm.poolsloth.com/index.php?page=gettingstarted
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Yeah the price of gpu's is crazy right now. It should calm down in the coming couple months I think as the difficulty continues to catch up to the price. As someone that wants to upgrade his gpu to actually game on its frustrating s hell lol. I refuse to pay markup prices for almost anything on principal alone (if nothing else).
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Im not saying it isnt worth doing (once I have some spare funds ill likely buy some). But the title may be misleading. We cant buy them for the same price you did, and the price makes all the difference in the world, especially when it comes to PoS coins as it directly impacts how many coins you get, aka how many you get from staking. So your number are just that...YOUR numbers, the numbers if you bought in april of last year (both the gpu's and the beans).
I guess im knitpicking, just saying the title should be "sprouting bitbeans has been 10x more profitable for me" or something. It may be even better now, I have no idea (wouldnt even know where to start with the math
edit: actually based on a quick glance, the price of bean in usd has gone up like 500x. So assuming you could get the video cards at the same price, (you cant right now, but that may change before too long), and all other factors were the same as last year (it never is). The mining would actually be more profitable..... right? (you never mentioned electricuty costs ect though)
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