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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 21, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
Good afternoon! Or the translation is bad or how. Explain how the bought tokens are destroyed? You can not destroy keys that are already stored in someone's purse. If they are destroyed, it will lead to zeroing of the tokens, and how can you destroy them on someone else's purse?

Hello. They are not anyone else’s tokens, they will be bought and owned by OptiToken off of any public cryptocurrency exchange, in an optimal manner, as we see fit for the whole community. Then they will be destroyed immediately by sending them to a black hole address. Not only is it extremely easy  to do, it’s also 100% transparent. Thanks!
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 20, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
Project looks interesting and after reading the WP I have following questions:

1) No section on Risks and in particular the Counter-Party risk, How do you handle it? Which exchange(s) / custodian(s) do you plan to use ?

2) "... there will be times when the fund will be partly held in fiat ,such as Euro or Japanese Yen" > I assume you will use a FX neutral basket of all main FIATs and not only those two, correct ?
 
3) Do you plan to hold Stable Coins? If yes then will it be only during price correction phases, Which ones and why those ones?

4) At which frequency will you report? Will you disclose publicly the whole portfolio composition? Something similar to a monthly factsheet?

5) Some important decisions like location and accounting method are still under consideration, when do you plan to communicate on this? Will it be before the end of the ICO?


Two comments:

1) "This includes making all software programs and API’s open-source" > I assume it will not include trading algorithms ;-?
2) WP is referring to the term "Fund" > Is it a good idea from a regulatory stand-point ;-?

Thanks



Hey! Thanks so much for the great questions and also nice feedback, let me answer some of your questions in what would hopefully be a sufficient manner:

1.) Are you referring to ANN not having something on that subject? Whitepaper had it originally, although we're a few edits later and I may actually need to check if that includes something regarding that. So actually the goal is to find a private insurer for a portion of deposits. It seems the most common availability of such a service is something where a company underwrites a portion of holdings. We are still working on that, it's not as easy as just contacting AIG yet! Maybe soon it will be, so as for custodial services, I'm actually having an issue with these providers. I believe Gemini is able to offer some kind of depositors insurance to a certain extent BUT only for US individual accounts if I recall correctly. Their fees are quite exorbitant, though is another issue. Somewhere to the tune of $100,000 or 1% yearly, whichever is greater. The same goes for ItBit HOWEVER, ItBit doesn't even offer US individuals any depositor correction but they have plenty of high level sales guys to respond and schedule Skype calls with you to explain "why thats actually a good thing"?! Needless to say, we skipped that skype session. Coinbase has followed suit offering a replica service to Gemini of course haha. We'll skip on them as I can't imagine them placing OptiToken's fiduciaries ahead of any regulatory weird happenings that could come to any crypto service operating in a less than friendly GEO. Switzerland is a nice geo for that but the question becomes this: are any of those options more secure that Bitfinex's cold wallet security protocols for corporate accounts? They're not any different, unless any of them can offer something like insurance on part or all of coins they store for a customer than it makes really no sense to utilize their services over Bitfinex's nearly identical system, actually probably superior as they've been through real fire alarms and not just drills. So right now, we think the best plan of action is to utilize their system AND continue to try to find a company to underwrite a private policy for our project. There's no reason to believe we shouldn't be able to find a solution for this relatively soon. I would guestimate that by mid-March we can have some sort of agreement with a service provider that will assist in protecting the project a great deal. We will add all this to the next version of the WP as it shapes up.

2.) The way we'll likely pick what foreign currency to use at any given time will depend on a few things: availability and current value/trend. I don't think utilizing a basket of currencies makes sense for this at the moment but there's no need to rule something like that out, especially as the portfolio grows and project could become susceptible to intraday price volatility. Utilizing something like that would mean an additional service provider and some additional fees and in my opinion it just doesn't make sense for us at the current juncture. I know we would like to avoid the USD, any reason US regulators could find to say hey you're operating in US somehow or way is just another potential headache. It bodes well for that idea that the USD is currently heading in a downward trend for the foreseeable coming months, at least. BitFinex offers Euro and USD so for the most part I think we'll use the Euro, I also think the Euro is undervalued at the moment so I think it's sufficient for now. I'm semi familiar with the JPY as well so an eye will be kept on it. That's why those 2 are mentioned specifically.

3.) Stable coins are scary too! How stable really is a stable coin, right? I mean it's a question we must ask. Interestingly enough we came up with an interesting hedging method. I actually talk about it in an interview I did the other day. So stable coins are an ingredient of most crypto traders at some point in time, so one needs to consider the Tether dilemma. Is it a fear and propaganda campaign by the likes of banks or people with certain enormous traditional currency interest? Hard to say... Is it real? That's also hard to say. That being said, when the Tether hype was at its worse recently, we actually avoided and put the kibosh on any trades set to execute into it immediately. The result was a bit more loss than had to be realized when the market turned bear on that news and the other negative news around the same time. This was only a few weeks ago Im sure you recall. The answer I found, although how scalable and what risks it carries of it's own, is still being determined and calculated. So, Kraken offers a very interesting trading pair: USDT/USD! Interesting right? I'm looking at it for profitability purposes as well as there's potential there for sure, and anyone even semi-familiar with traditional ForEx can see that, especially since they have some weird way to get credits for fees at the moment. However the fee redemption is a bit confusing and I haven't been able to justify spending a lot of time on it currently, as there are more urgent matters in front of us at the moment. That being said, we recently test margin shorted Tether to USD at a small amount. Only 4000 tether, just to test the flow AND also as it technically was providing a decent little hedge for the test portfolio/algo that is indeed currently live on Bitfinex and plugged into our website VIA api. The position was actually closed at a profit of roughly $12 when UpBit announced they too are backing Tether. I thought that sufficient to close that test position and continue on as is. By that I mean, continue using USDT or EURT on BitFinex while continuing to seek out an insurance policy. So there is a really nice way to sufficiently hedge risk here on a stable coin, I think it's the clear option of stable coin to use as it also happens to be the only one BitFinex offers. Well what about Kraken though becomes the question, would that mean we would also need to seek some sort of depositors insurance policy there? Maybe... It may also be that we will want to avoid Kraken altogether, as they are based in the U.S., so it's a question that will also need to be addressed by legal. It would be pressed higher on the urgency check list HAD UpBit not come out saying they will also back Tether. But since that event happened it's been pushed down the list a bit BUT will be addressed and that info shared publicly of course. The other question here is what amount is needed to hedge at any given time, but that's a much easier question to answer and a simple formula can be made to suffice at the very least a partial hedge, if not complete. That too can be shared publicly and openly when we finish that work.

4.) A good and fair question, actually something we've discussed was a monthly look back at holdings and some sort of breakdown at what transpired. Yes someone could also look at the website and easily comprise the basket BUT that doesn't fully mean every token listed is what basket is comprised of A.) because that report I believe only offers so many lines to list trades and B.) because maybe one of the tokens in the basket just wasn't a trade target that when someone happened to go look and try to discern basket. Make sense? So yes, I think it's something we'll also run by the community as well as there's no reason for that to be a decision made behind closed doors.

5.) So thank you for pointing this out, this is something that needs to be updated in our documents (it wasn't ready when we drafted). We our officially incorporated and headquartered in The Cayman Islands. That section, wherever it state "still being determined...." will be replaced with address and a statement fitting to reflect that's where we are. It's important for the project to be headquartered somewhere that is tax friendly, no one wants big tax bills taking chunks out of the project quarterly or annually!  Also, I think Cayman Islands have established themselves as fairly crypto friendly so that was taken into account as well.

Per your comments:
1.) Another good question, it will likely depend on if people start demanding in droves the open-sourcing of such. It could be possible to open source YET obfuscate certain variables to appease all at the same time. Then the only complainers would be people who just want to run our script for their own selfish gains haha.

2.) You're 100% right, that term is not supposed to be there and thank you for pointing that out. It's important for people to understand this is not a fund, its actually closer related to operations that support traditional currencies. Although the difference is we seek to manipulate supply and demand SOLELY TO BENEFIT price, AND never to do something like inflate supply in hopes of "nurturing employment" or in support of any other economic fallacies. So thanks for pointing this out as well, that typo will be removed!

Awesome questions, I love having high level conversations with people who understand the concept. I invite you to join our groups on social media or anywhere that we can chat more in the future.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 20, 2018, 10:10:10 AM
I have to highly recommend the packaging of this project. Everything is thoroughly professional. From the website, to the team, to the whitepaper to the roadmap. I certainly appreciate the effort the team has put into making this project look thoroughly encouraging to investors.

I would like to find out though, the diversified cryptocurrencies that would be encapsulated into this token would be which ones exactly? Would they be already established cryptocurrencies or new ICOs?

Thanks very much for the kind feedback! For the time being, the projects basket of tokens is based mostly on established and actively developed coins. You can actually view the basket on the website. The tokens for the time being must be on Bitfinex although we would love to incorporate a few not listed there yet. In the future this may be possible, as well as ICO’s, but to keep it simple at first we are sticking to 90% projects with either something tangible such as the top 5 by marketcap as well as the top privacy coins. Then we include a few mid-cap projects with high upside and smallest percentage is comprised of a few high flyers.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 19, 2018, 07:21:43 PM
an exciting new project but where is your roadmap? you need to add a roadmap so your participants can understand the course of the project and add other participants to be interested and join

Our roadmap is posted on this ANN, our website AND the white paper!  Huh I think you have to read more carefully haha. Of course, it will become more detailed in the following weeks as we incorporate more team members and test community interest. We are also working on an infographic with our designers.

Whitepaper: https://optitoken.io/White_paper.pdf


45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 19, 2018, 03:22:16 PM
I’m curious, on low starting volume, which most any coins will have first few days on open, just how high the price can go with all the buy pressure that will be created from now until open on exchange. Do you have any rough figures or is that something you can’t quite comment on? I mean technically it could rocket up to like €100+ a coin before coming down some but than garnering a second wave from the attention it draws. You should buy in waves the first batch, at least 2 or 3 waves saving biggest for last maybe. Anyways I’m excited and presale is purchased 👌

Hello. Price discovery is hard to determine, it will depend largely on volume. It could potentially reach $1000 on lower initial volume. Also depends on if we open on HitBtc, EthFinex or elsewhere which is still being determined and negotiated. Thanks for the interest! Cheesy
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 19, 2018, 11:05:19 AM
Telegram profile? how to get telegram profile.
whether the intent is telegram username?

Hello. Not sure I understood your question. Our Telegram is here: https://t.me/joinchat/Cif2ylI6SNVwxLXHAETG0Q

We ask for username to track bounty, so if it's related to that, please ask in our bounty thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2974794.20

Thanks!

47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 18, 2018, 09:04:11 PM
This has a ton of potential. Be vigilant and transparent team opti!  Smiley

Thank you! Cheesy We will be very transparent throughout the whole process, we understand this is an essential part of a project like this. We have 2 legal firms involved and we will release constant audits of the process. Check out more details on our white paper, in the transparency section: https://optitoken.io/White_paper.pdf
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN]📊OPTITOKEN📈: A hyperdeflationary automated tokenized portfolio 🌍 on: February 18, 2018, 07:48:16 PM







The first ever hyper-deflationary cryptocurrency!

OptiToken introduces the novel concepts of 'Buy Pressure' and 'Strategic Scarcity'

This works by creating profits from the ongoing series of trades of the OptiToken portfolio and infuse it into the market(s) of OptiToken itself to provide constant sporadic upward price pressure. The tokens purchased are then destroyed by sending them to an unspendable address to create ever growing scarcity in the token supply and disallow the tokens from re-entering the ecosystem as ‘sell pressure.’ The remaining OptiTokens held by the cryptocurrency’s adopters will gain value each time this cycle occurs.




Optitoken is fueled by a 24/7 algorithmic trading portfolio of established and manually selected cryptocurrencies. Essentially, the algorithm takes advantage of price swings among a select group of tokens, known as "The Basket," made up of a variable number of coin(s) deemed statistically or categorically undervalued. They will also be established and growth driven projects with high upside potential based on several factors based on past trends of growth and/or market averages. It will also take into account token supply and market capitalization.





An ICO will be used to buy the initial underlying currencies and will be immediately put to work trading.

Our test portfolio, that uses the strategies that will be adopted by the algorithm, is consistently outpacing Bitcoin since it started, by about 40% to 100%. You can view the movements live on our website!

SIGN UP FOR PRE-SALE: https://optitoken.io/presale/




Unique Value Proposition

Optitoken's trademark strategies of Buy Pressure and Strategic Scarcity can create perfect conditions for price appreciation. As our algorithm trades automatically between the basket of tokens, a portion of the profits created will be used to buy OptiToken on the market, thus providing upward price pressure. Afterwards, the tokens will be sent to an unspendable address and be destroyed, creating scarcity and further increasing value.







CEO and Founder - Sean Donato - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-donato-84b80582/

Business Operations and Asset Pricing - John DeGiacomi - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-degiacomi-b9096116/
 
Full Stack Developer - Sebastian Richard - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastien-rd/

Marketing and Analytics - Himank Varshney - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/himanksahai/


Alec Hahn  - Founder at Bit42 and Dev at BitHalo -

Theo Goodman - Founder DegenBet / Former Consultatn HaasOnline  - LinkedIn: https://de.linkedin.com/in/theo-goodman-20754515

More advisors are in negotiations and will be incorporated in the coming weeks!







INITIAL COIN OFFERING

Sale Period: 12 weeks: From 1st of April to 1st of July
Token Type: ERC20, Ethereum Blockchain
Maximum Supply: 280,000,000 OPTI
Available for Purchase: 196,000,000 OPTI
Hard Cap: €24,000,000 euro
Soft Cap: €225,000 euro


Emission rate: No new coins will be created or mined after the ICO. All leftover tokens that are not sold will be destroyed. Through the implementation of strategic scarcity, OptiToken will actually have a negative emission rate.

Restrictions: Purchases from US, Cayman Islands and Chinese residents not allowed

Pre-Sale

To reward early purchasers we are offering 8 million $OPTI tokens at €0.09 each, a discount of 25%. The first 25 buys will have no limit as to not exclude early supporters and fans. Afterwards, there will be a minimum buy limit of €3,500 euro.

Large buys will be offered special discounts that can be negotiated personally at info@optitoken.io


SIGN UP FOR PRE-SALE: https://optitoken.io/presale/


Token Sale Structure

** All options subject to time and supply constraints whichever executes first **

• Week 1 and 2: 20m tokens at € 0.12 each: Fully subscribed = € 2,4 million

• Week 3 and 4: 36m tokens at €0.15 each: Fully subscribed = €5,4 million

• Week 5 and 6: 40m tokens at €0.18 each: Fully subscribed = €7,2 million

• Week 7 and 8: 44m tokens at €0.21 each: Fully subscribed = €9,24 million

• Final month: 48 million tokens at €0.24 each: Fully subscribed = €11,52 million

If fully subscribed the ICO would raise €36,480,000 however the hard cap will be placed at € 24,000,000 and remaining coins will be burned, minus a 1% to cover ICO expenses.



ICO Fund Utilization

• Raise of €225,000 - €250.000: 76% toward fund and 24% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €251.000 - €500.000: 79% toward fund and 21% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €501.000 - €750.000: 82% toward fund and 18% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €751.000 - €1.000.000: 85% toward fund and 15% toward initial exchange listing and  start-up costs.

• Raise of €1.100.000 - €2.000.000: 88% toward fund and 12% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €2.100.000 - €3.500.000: 92% toward fund and 8% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €3.600.000 - €5.000.000: 95% toward fund and 5% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €5.100.000 - €10.000.000: 96% toward fund and 4% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Raise of €10.100.000 - €20.000.000: 97% toward fund and 3% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

• Lastly a raise of €20.100.000 or more: 98% toward fund and 2% toward initial exchange listing and start-up costs.

The reason that the sliding scale is effective is that it weighs the increasing amount of work and new hires legal and custodial services that will be required as the the funds initial holdings increases through the token sale.



BOUNTY CAMPAIGN

Our official bounty campaign will be of 5,600,000 tokens, or 2% of the total supply, are reserved for our initial bounty campaign. If the ICO is fully subscribed, this means a bounty of 1,344,000 euro in tokens.

Details and signing up here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2974794.0




AIRDROP

An airdrop of around 2% of the supply is planned and will be announced here in the near future!

How to participate:

1. Join our Telegram: https://t.me/joinchat/Cif2ylI6SNVwxLXHAETG0Q
2. Sign up using this form: https://goo.gl/besLBS
3. Check your application: https://goo.gl/VrFmSc




OPTITOKEN IN THE NEWS!



https://finance.yahoo.com/news/optitoken-seeks-build-distributed-value-060000066.html

http://bitcoinist.com/strategic-scarcity-optimal-token/

https://www.ccn.com/strategic-scarcity-game-changer/

https://www.newsbtc.com/2017/12/31/exclusivity-optitokens-features-may-also-impact-traditional-stock-market-model/

INTERVIEW WITH CEO: https://youtu.be/jfOdNMga-m8
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