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There's some really strange rivalries with this coin. On the Discord the community talks about some really upset former dev named Eeeyore. This Eeyore character is constantly doing things like DDOSing one of the pools. A more comical thing that occurs on occasion is that he'll get some new logon for Discord and then will drop random pictures of people taking craps or old men giving each other blow jobs. It's gross but so gross and so odd (and so relatively frequent) that I have to say the whole thing has some entertainment value.
The core dev team here is frequently absent. The reason, I believe, is that there's a personal issue with the lead dev currently. He's absent but not totally gone --- for example, the coin switched algos a couple weeks ago from v7 to v8. Also the dev seems to come and unblock things when it gets to the point where there's a tech response needed, i.e., when Eeyore or whoever is attacking the network does their thing.
There's not been any real discussion of exchanges on the sites recently and that's not something that'll probably get addressed until the dev and team can fully re-engage. Unknown when that will occur.
Outlook:I'm mining this coin because the devs have an interesting vision for an alt version of ETN. In spite of all the chaos online, and in personal lives, the core team still hacks away at this. I think they'll still need a couple months to get things together. Probably won't be on an exchange until 1Q19 at the earliest. It's a risky project from all objective measures but if you like risk and you're not in a rush to sell, well, then add this to the speculative list. I think this team is going to pull it together, eventually.
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Interesting project here. The dev team is very accessible on Discord. They're anon, but bring reputations from other projects.
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Are testnet coins convertable to mainnet or should we wait until mainnet launch?
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After a hiatus and a few weeks of confusion, apparently, ETNC is up and running again. It's been moved to cryptonight v8.
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Xiphon did start the code for the transition away from the Pascal programming language at the "pasl-project" GitHub but it's unfinished.
We did get a new dev a few months back but unfortunately he was laid off from his job and had to find paid work instead.
At the moment the development is put on hold until xiphon has time or we find a new developer to complete the codes.
If anyone is interested in helping out we would be more than pleased. But it's hard to find a skilled developer who would work for unpaid work.
Not a developer myself but I am interested in helping to recruit one for this. Could you describe a little more the state of the project? What is the language migrating to, and what's left to do?
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I don't think this was ever supposed to have devs, it is a "rename fork". It was always on the very risky side, but we are only at the end if all miners stop, and sometimes we even get the Lazarus effect, life after death. But it is so difficult to invest in BTC, and this is 1 million times more risky, so...
Oh no, any coin has to have devs otherwise it's dead from the start. I'm still trying to figure out what the future for PASL might hold, but the devs are responding. No schedule or details, but a dev on Discord pointed out that there has been some code check-in recently, by xiphon. See Github: https://github.com/pasl-project/pasl/commit/9c39fa8 (three others that day). In response to the question I asked about forking, one of the devs responded this way: adaseb Yesterday at 11:22 PM We might fork in the future but at the moment we put development on hold as our main programming developer is busy with other projects unfortunately.
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It looks like the project has failed. The price of IMG on the exchange (crex24.com) is 10-50 sat. This is 20-100 times cheaper than the developers were selling. Scam.
No, that is not the definition of a scam.
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Curious if anyone here thinks this coin has any life. Devs are silent and never seemed to have had much of a presence.
The coin seems to get attention because it's one of the few that the Baikal BK-B will still mine. That's peetered now that mining, even with that, is senseless.
This is looking like a basically dead coin and project. I'd like to know why that isn't the case?
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Um, ok, so where is the Discord?
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Hilarious, a coin for Belgians "and sympathizers." I may be a sympathizer. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'll come see y'all on Discord and see what's up. Tot straks
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I began mining Pigeon initially and tracked progress closely for the first three months on Discord and by listening in on some of the calls that the dev hosted. In my opinion this coin is most definitely NOT a scam. However, I sold my holdings and moved because it's a bad business idea. Bad is different from scammy.
Why is it a bad business plan?
Obviously this is just my opinion, but the PGN plan to start a new social network is an also-ran and one of the most heavily tested models for failure in Silicon Valley. Social networks are a "winner takes all" proposition for their market (e.g., Facebook--personal; LinkedIn--professional; AngelList--investors, etc). There could be room for another but it needs to be funded, and importantly, driven by an executive that knows how to build a social network. The devs here are well-intentioned (and principled) engineers, but that's different than being a good businessperson. Choosing to build another social network is a bad business plan.
I root for this team, but not investing in it.
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COIN IS DEAD, DEVS BOLTED
Bummer. Was fun while it lasted.
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If you take a look back at my posts I started mining this coin almost since it started when it was CPU only and I made the terrible decision of holding my coins and I'm still holding them.
How does the fact that you forgot to dump make this a dead project? I can't really say it is dead for certain and I really hope it's not, but if you take a look at the github last commit was June 23rd. This is an academic project and the researchers are coming back from summer work starting next week. Hopefully it'll signal a restart of work (and Github commits). This is a very low-emission coin, it won't take much for the value to go back up.
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When does X11 mining start?
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@eltigre this is the quant coin I mentioned.
Still mining the llama snowfield! There's a great community on Discord and Slack for questions. AWS is a little cheaper than GCP. Fire up your instance soon so you can still mine in RAM, gets harder with next snowfield.
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This is a great project --- I've been in the community since April. Learned how to set up my first MN, and now I have a few. For anyone perusing coins like this, here's how I'd describe the project: The dev has a long-term vision and has made some hard choices (from the beginning) to achieve that goal. That's meant restarting the chain, changing the algo, moving to PoS, and constant upgrades. The project is constantly being worked on, improved, tested. New ideas are thrown out to the community --- some accepted, others not --- it's got the spirit of a Silicon Valley startup scene, flipping up pancakes to see what sticks. That's not a criticism, it's an absolute pleasure to see. There are so many cut & paste coins there with the same roadmap, same plan to bring "crypto to everybody" or somesuch. Instead, this project is more like an effort to build something together, involving crypto, but could be a lot of other things (they've proposed a commercial network, etc). For me, seeing these ideas come and go, with some sticking, is the magic. Eric Schmidt (former Google Chairman and CEO) used to say "let 1000 flowers bloom" in an innovation zone where testing occurs and failure is not just allowed --- but encouraged. On a much smaller scale, of course, this is how I feel the Curium team is going at it. If you want a quick buck, stay away. But if you want to join in on something that's very experimental, very long-term focused, bringing long-term value to a project that will be around for a long time then head on over. I'm now using this as a way to teach my daughter about crypto and get involved and show how open innovation looks (in it's beauty and it's clumsiness, both are part of it). And to learn how Proof of Stake works. It's one thing to read about this, another to try it. (Also: ever seen how many of these coins have these scammy MN sales? That's not this at all). For around $50 to $100 you can buy 10k CRU (at todays prices) and set up a MN. Buy the coins on Graviex (80% of trading volume), Stocks.Exchange, Crypto Hub or SouthXchange. From there you'll be participating in the PoS model. Don't expect this coin to moon by Christmas, but I frankly don't think the price will stay that low for that long. Heck, for $100 of coin that you buy on the exchange, it might be worth just the effort to learn how to set up the MN yourself and have a community (and dev) join in to teach you. Our current MNs are running GCP (the cloud) but my daughter and I are going to set up another one this weekend on a RasberryPi. Maybe we'll post pictures on the Discord channel. Come join us. I realize people say this kind of thing all the time and so don't believe me if you don't want to, but I don't do endorsements; I'm not paid in any way by the devs; etc. Come say hi! PAPACABEZA
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Hi, I'm using this script at the top here and getting the result described below. Any advice, please? I'm mining on a computer with a single Titan V and I just want to mine from the GPU. Thank you.
C:\Users\TitanV_Miner\Dropbox\BILLETEROS WIN\DEFT\CuBalloon 1.0.2 Windows>cuballoon -o stratum+tcp://mine.icemining.ca:5102 -u dbkJzyqJpVj8kNto7FHtGpHWk7fhKYGMzj --cuda_threads 448 --cuda_blocks 64 --cuda_sync 0 -t 0 -p c=DEFT
** cuballoon / belgarion ** ** based on cpuminer-balloon / barrystyle **
Device Number: 0 Device name: TITAN V Memory Clock Rate (KHz): 850000 Memory Bus Width (bits): 3072 Peak Memory Bandwidth (GB/s): 652.800000
Enabled cuda devices: 0 Number of enabled cuda devices: 1 Using: 0 CPU Threads and 1 GPU Threads thread id: 0, gpuid: 0, cuda threads: 448, cuda blocks: 64 [2018-07-27 11:10:33] 1 miner threads started, using 'balloon' algorithm. [2018-07-27 11:10:33] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://mine.icemining.ca:5102 [2018-07-27 11:10:34] net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bf [2018-07-27 11:10:34] Stratum difficulty set to 0.00004096 Initiated GPU 0 [2018-07-27 11:11:23] net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bf [2018-07-27 11:11:54]CU API bind to port 4048 failed (No error) - API will not be availableD A err[2018-07-27 11:12:26]or at net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bfballoon/bal loon-cuda.cu:217 code=2(cudaErrorMemoryAllocation) "cudaPeekAtLastError()"
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There is no need for a whitepaper when the concept already exists. A technical paper may be written to present the case of the rapid inflation schedule in the near future. [/quote]
It's interesting enough such that I'm throwing some hashpower at this, but I'd like to understand more the point of the project. If you have any pointers to similar projects that would be helpful since you're not doing a white paper. Thank you.
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Been mining ETHO since Day 1, now in the MN Alpha program. I'll add to the positive comments on working with the Devs. It's a class project and the devs are beating my expectations. Very professionally run program, solid community.
Come join!
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