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BitMaxz, definitely the same errors. So I detached the board 1 cable from the hashboard and plugged the cable that usually runs hashboard 3 into hasboard 1. I didn't switch controller board cable positions from 3 to 1, just plugged 3 into hashboard 1. Same result. [2021/02/24 20:10:01] INFO: Power ON
[2021/02/24 20:10:03] INFO: Starting FPGA queue
[2021/02/24 20:10:03] INFO: Initializing hash boards
[2021/02/24 20:10:03] INFO: chain[2] - Initializing
[2021/02/24 20:10:03] INFO: chain[1] - Initializing
[2021/02/24 20:10:06] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x00 0x00
[2021/02/24 20:10:08] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:09] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x9b 0x9b
[2021/02/24 20:10:10] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x9b 0x9b
[2021/02/24 20:10:11] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x9b 0x9b
[2021/02/24 20:10:11] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x9b 0x9b
[2021/02/24 20:10:13] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x9b 0x9b
[2021/02/24 20:10:14] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:16] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:16] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:17] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:17] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:18] INFO: chain[1] - 48 chips detected
[2021/02/24 20:10:19] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:20] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:22] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:23] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:23] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:24] WARN: chain[2] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/24 20:10:24] ERROR: driver-btm-chain.c:465 chain[2] - Failed to init pic controller
[2021/02/24 20:10:24] INFO: chain[2] - Shutting down the chain
[2021/02/24 20:10:24] ERROR: driver-btm-base.c:356 chain[2] - Initialization failed
[2021/02/24 20:10:26] INFO: Start-up temperature is 25 C (min -15 C)
[2021/02/24 20:10:26] INFO: Switching to manual fan control (100 %)
[2021/02/24 20:10:26] INFO: Changing voltage from 21000 to 17400 mV gradually
[2021/02/24 20:11:06] INFO: Raising freq from 50 to 500 Mhz gradually
[2021/02/24 20:11:17] INFO: Switching to automatic fan control (75 C)
[2021/02/24 20:11:17] INFO: Start mining!
Thanks wndsnb, Super insightful as always. How hard would it be to self replace this part? Where would I get the part from? If I can replace the PIC microprocessor then in theory I could use the pickit to flash back on. |
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Well got the S17 Pro back and was able to put eyes on the kernel myself. It went in for repairs limping and came out even worse, so I was hoping there might be a magic (sorcery will do too) recommendation to save this on my own with tools and hardware online. Boards are non-existent so any help is appreciated. Board 3 is off for now because it arrived with a loose heat sink. Board 2 is hashing well. Board 1 is the current issue. 1st Diagnosis - Tested all 3 hashboards, All ASICs report correctly with all temp sensors failing. 2nd Diagnosis and Final Repair. (Below) Hashboard 1 (Chain 0)- Temp sensors 2 & 4 replaced. Reflowed Chips Boost circuit failed board is unrepairable. Kernel Log:[2021/02/21 03:37:27] INFO: Power ON
[2021/02/21 03:37:29] INFO: Starting FPGA queue
[2021/02/21 03:37:29] INFO: Initializing hash boards
[2021/02/21 03:37:29] INFO: chain[1] - Initializing
[2021/02/21 03:37:29] INFO: chain[0] - Initializing
[2021/02/21 03:37:33] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:35] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x9a 0x9a
[2021/02/21 03:37:37] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x9a 0x9a
[2021/02/21 03:37:38] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:39] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:39] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:41] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:42] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:44] INFO: chain[1] - 48 chips detected
[2021/02/21 03:37:44] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:44] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:45] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:45] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:47] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:49] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:50] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to reset pic (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:51] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 1), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:51] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 2), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:52] WARN: chain[0] - Failed to start pic app (attempt = 3), resp: 0x01 0x01
[2021/02/21 03:37:52] ERROR: driver-btm-chain.c:465 chain[0] - Failed to init pic controller
[2021/02/21 03:37:52] INFO: chain[0] - Shutting down the chain
[2021/02/21 03:37:52] ERROR: driver-btm-base.c:356 chain[0] - Initialization failed
[2021/02/21 03:37:54] INFO: Start-up temperature is 28 C (min -15 C)
[2021/02/21 03:37:54] INFO: Switching to manual fan control (100 %)
[2021/02/21 03:37:54] INFO: Changing voltage from 21000 to 17400 mV gradually
[2021/02/21 03:38:34] INFO: Raising freq from 50 to 500 Mhz gradually
[2021/02/21 03:38:45] INFO: Switching to automatic fan control (75 C)
[2021/02/21 03:38:45] INFO: Start mining!
Thanks for taking a look! NKBTW |
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Agilmore, x17 could be considered the worst in terms of quality and depend on a lot of luck. Would you entertain selling your working hashboard? Wndsnb mentioned he'd also be interested in the dead hashboards, PSU, case, and control board left over. Appreciate the consideration.
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The Pickit seems like the smartest choice here for a small scale operation and rare use situations. Also, thierry4wd's post provides a good reference to get things off the ground along with information in this thread. Would you recommend the newer Pickit4?
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You mentioned that if you plan to mix and match boards they will need some work and seems like one would have to undergo some editing so that the control board recognizes the correct product id's. I'm interested to know if this work can be performed without specialty equipment. Sometimes it's no brain and sometimes it's no keyboard, depends on the day  |
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wdsnb, I agree, they probably have a massive backlog as well. With 6 actual technicians servicing the US I shouldn't be surprised it's taken since mid December to get this diagnosis and repair. Totally time-consuming I can just imagine the gaps you have to fill in but you know they work and your not under the corporate-type time crunch. Would you entertain repairs and perhaps complete overhauls that improve the factory build quality to boards? I tried to contact agilmore but he's not accepting messages from newbs. Perhaps you would have better luck.  This is great information and clears up a lot of confusion mikeywith. I think this would be helpful seeing as replacement parts for the 17 series are becoming rarer and working hash boards are few and far between now. It's what I was afraid of and far beyond my skill set. Maybe a tutorial soon?  NKBTW |
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wndsnd, I haven't received the miner back yet to see the damage on the screen myself but will keep you posted. Good idea though. They said the boost circuit is in-between "not worth their time" and "beyond their capabilities". They are certified Bitmain techs. so who knows.
agilemore, I'd be interested in your working board if you are willing to sell it.
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I had the same problems on a Pro recently as well with results below that might be useful to others in the future. Boost circuit took me by surprise. That said, I'm also looking for 2 boards now. I'm under the impression 50TH is not interchangeable with 53TH. All I could tell is the difference in power draw.
Hashboard 1-
YDFTYHUAIJDAH0K81
Temp sensors 2 & 4 replaced.
Reflowed Chips
Boost circuit failed board is unrepairable.
Hashboard 2-
YDFTYHUAIJDAH0K82
Temp sensors 2 & 4 replaced.
Reflowed Chips
Hashboard 3-
YDFTYHUAIJDAH0K83
Reflowed chip
5 or more ASICs failed board is unrepairable.
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No problem! I think it's something that should be shared here with the community and believe 3D printing has a place in mining whether air or immersion. My only concern is the HDT of 73+or-C on PETG. I wouldn't be surprised if it fits though and would love to see how it turns out.
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Make that two I'm in search for now. Thank You |
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You're welcome DJsC, There were two main design criteria you touched on: catch the power outlet exhaust and let it breathe (and accept 8" ducting). Feel free to reach out here if you have any questions about anything and I'll do my best to answer. NKBTW |
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I believe this would work on the T17's as well but I'd want to make it absolutely certain before someone dedicates time, material, and manpower to print this. Specifically, capturing the power exhaust ports on them, depths to PSU outlet face may differ but fan mating would be ok.
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Dear miners, It's taken a while to find some time to organize this with work and life duties but my goal was to share this. Hope you'll be able to find some use. What is this? Functional 3D printable exhaust capturing both hash board and power supply end for S17 series. (possibly others, unconfirmed) What the hell? This mining community has really allowed me to develop my passion for mining over the years and in concert with that, I can in some form return this knowledge by leveraging my design and engineering skills for those running S17 series miners on air. What miner was this design based off of? S17Pro 53TH Project Timing: 1 month+ CAD program: NX 3D printed process/material: Duraform PA SLS glass filled Nylon with a heat deflection temperature (HDT) of 134C, also chosen for it's strength (baseplate and clips). What other additive manufacturing processes and materials can I use? FDM: Carbon-reinforced Nylon, ASA (HDT) is 102C. SLS: 100% Nylon PA. SLA not recommended. Outlet size? 8" for unrestricted thermal flow and common duct sizing. Where can I see images of the process/prototypes? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13pxwNq3i_UbBT4-HtUTQX8JJ3rYCMvaU?usp=sharingApplications of scale: It's scalable from apartment mining to smaller mining operations where rack space isn't at a premium. Will it fit S19's and T17 series? It was designed for an S17Pro so to confirm I'd recommend pulling dimensions from your machine chassis and fans to reference. Screw slots on the base plate allow for adjustment room only in the Z direction File format: .stl (x2), BASE_PLATE.stl and SHROUD.stl Where can I download the .stl's? https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w3BvUKmdP96TeiACywiTfjAslpd6fWGN?usp=sharingInstallation tips? The miners fan through screws don't need a lot of torque, just a soft tightening. SLS PA is one of the most robust materials to work with so cracking and shearing of the base plate from over-torquing wasn't an issue. Be careful to slide the shroud in and out parallel on-axis with the base plate clips for reasons of shearing those off. If something does break on the base plate for some reason use 2 part Plexus MA310. Or just reprint it  If you have any questions about 3D printing processes or materials please feel free to leave a question. Any other questions or issues I will do my best to answer. Whether big or small, if you at all find these parts useful or helpful, I will not say no to tips via the address in my profile. Hopefully, this can be put to good use and it would be cool to see this working for other miners, as it does for mine. Best, NoKeyboard-BTW |
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Must be the original firmware that came with the miner
Lost forever in the internet ether.  |
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I haven't been able to find that release date in any of the archived S17 firmware sites. Do you know where to find this fixed frequency firmware for S17/S17Pro?
Was anyone able to locate this? It would be super to know where to look.  . Can the volts can go even lower than 17v? |
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Hello, a shot in the dark, but if you are parting out an S17 Pro 53Th, I'd be interested in 1 or more of the boards. Tried everything and all signs point to the board on it's way out. Thank you.
NKBTW
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My gear is not accessible as it is 65 miles away.
Nice idea I would love to see it when you make it.
Always thankful Philip, Couldn't think of a better place to ask. They aren't door stops yet so I understand the inconvenience of the whole idea. |
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Greetings, I'm awaiting the arrival of an S17 Pro but plan to eventually add a S19 Pro down the line. Right now, I'd love to find an owner of both that would be willing (or for a small fee) to whip out the calipers for an accurate rear elevation with dimensions because the goal is to model the rears in CAD for a very nerdy thermal/flow simulation. What I'd be looking for in sketch form or CAD: - Locations of all screw placements centers. - Overall Width and Height (Not sure I trust the dims on Bitmain's site) - The Width and Height of the APW9 and APW12 power supply. Along with the dimension of the gap between the case and power supply. - Overall perimeter dims. of both power supply air outlet textures. It's a big ask but the info might be beneficial to some that would like to archive the info, mod, or just satisfy our engineering sides. My email is minus.apex@gmail.com if you want to reach out that way Thank You, NKBTW |
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How do you plan on getting an s17 pro board to fit in an S9 frame?
scrap that idea. I guess a small form factor was my angle. |
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I really like the idea Philip. And picked up bits and pieces of that idea in another thread you were in. Guess my dream machine would be 1-2 S17 Pro hashboards with S17 Pro controller in an S9 frame. Because, correct me if I am wrong, these were the last machines that you could control the speeds and power from factory. And for fun, 1 board from S19 Pro 110 would be 800 - ish for 27.5TH - but can't control it and expensive.
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