Dash manoeuvring.
Yeah saw that. We spent a long time trying to breakdown at $100, I guess this was the only way.  |
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Please, a link or invitation to use the DASH discord channel ?
If you have any suggestions on the best way to receive information, great, thanks. This forum doesn't have much movement, honestly.
Thank you
http://staydashy.com/ will do it.  |
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But who will buy Dash as an investment?
Probably when the number starts going up again, they will buy, actually Dash is pretty cheap right now, it could reach $200 this year and slightly more next year a trend could build over time. Also, the network demonstrated its decentralisation last week, this was a good test. Any new CEO we put into DCG will be an improvement over Ryan, heck even if we leave the role empty it will be an improvement, LOL. |
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Descending smoothly through long term Dash/BTC support due to lack of competitiveness in the store-of-value department.
This is nonsense, Russia! Now that the DCG CEO has stepped down, Dash has a chance to refresh and get some excitement back into the coin and rebuild trust, in the following months price will improve as we revamp Dash into Dash2.0. |
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(*) My main problem is that I can not vote from the MN collateral value simple because it is offline encoded and stored and not simple at all to access. It's a day work at least and then there is eighter taking the risk to bring it online which is a no go for me or work with offline signation. Very unpracticable.
Hi Gadado2, please review my guide on how to create a perfect masternode, it makes voting so much easier, you really should vote without those votes we have a tough time improving Dash. Feel free to contact me personally for more information. https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-create-the-perfect-masternode.52717/#post-229848 |
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It seems that as I intuited. DCG's budget proposal will go through smoothly this month.
It is evident, and much to my regret, that there is a clear centralization of votes in the Dash MN network, since there are whales that always move more than 200 votes in favor of DCG, and that is a sign that there is a small error in decentralization.
I understand that it is nobody's fault that there are whales with hundreds of nodes, since it is their money and their risk. But think for a moment that these whales have an economic and friendship link with DCG. This would mean that no matter what happened, DCG would always receive support, even with a conflict of interest in the face of perhaps more interesting projects that should be financed.
When I see things like this, I think of a father who has a big business and who wants his "dumb" son to continue the business in front of brilliant employees who could do it better than his own son. But the father loves his son, and in the long run when his son governs, the company will die because it is no longer competitive.
A shame. I've never considered getting rid of my MNs, but right now, it's the first time in a long time that I've seen a big, hard-to-fix problem. And I'm not talking about Dash's current performance, I'm talking about future conflicts of interest that are likely to appear in the future and could push out Dash's talent in favor of mediocrity.
All the best
Pang, you raise some good points and like you I am dismayed that the DCG_Compo proposal appears to be passing. The issue as I see it is that there are too few good men left in Dash. All the people that would have voted NO on this proposal with us have already sold and left. This leaves a concentration of fools that actually agree with the (in)actions of the DCG CEO Ryan Taylor. It is really hard getting the required votes to make the change. What I expect will happen is if this proposal passes, some of the NO voters will give and up sell and DCG's approval rating will rise. Ryan will celebrate himself and point to the super majority of yes votes as confirmation he is doing a great job. |
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I am not in Discord either. Nor anywhere where a moderator can delete or censor my comments.
Every democratic dictatorship begins in a subtle way and uses prohibition as a banner for the common good, and ends up becoming a destructive hell of fundamental rights such as freedom of expression itself.
The rot set in for Dash when toxic discord carried out the coup on TaoOfSatoshi moderated Discord which until that point had been a fairly broad church. It was all downhill from there as the centre of mass of policy making tipped into a MN whale / DCG dominated axis who's centrifugal force threw off all known creatives, visionaries and challenges to core Dash orthodoxies such as " give as much free Dash to masternodes as humanly possibly even if they do nothing to earn it and even if it chronically tanks the marketcap". That has left us where we are today: with an endemic economic problem, golf club politics and number 80. No amount of "marketing" can counteract the undermining effect of feeding coin to holders en-masse at zero price. It's simply a corruption of the core business model of mined crypto and problems will remain until those headwinds are lifted. Store-of-value 101 for mined coins. Understood by everyone except a tiny exclusive group of Dash holders and policy makers. So... You are in support of us or not? I am confused on this one. Please recall that it was Ryan that introduced the flawed economic model that you hate so much and it is Ryan that we are requesting be stood down as CEO of DCG. Are we not aligned on this issue, Tok? |
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I agree with you that the falling ROI will result in more masternodes leaving the network, I believe we should divert more of the network rewards to the Masternodes to subsidise them and slow this trend.
Well, being that you're the poster-boy for Dash recklessness I would expect nothing less  @toknormal, it seems that they are looking for a substitute for Ryan. I think you should submit your candidacy. It seems unbelievable that so many years have had to pass for this fact to arise right now. DCG's proposal on not voting on this quarter's budget is very interesting. Thanks to this, we can know the voting power that DCG has and who really pulls the strings of this coin. If the budget for DCG goes through, there is no doubt that they have somehow monopolized the voting power, and the currency is useless in the long term, since it will not be able to evolve for the user, it will only do so for the DCG. Possibly, I will sell my nodes if I see that DCG continues to have full support in its financing proposals, since it is a dead end. Thank you for mentioning this Pang, and please if you can support by voting NO on the DCG Compo proposal, that would be amazing and to anyone else, Tok, please vote NO to DCG Compo proposal this month to send the message that the MNOs would like Ryan to announce a transition plan as he steps down from role of CEO. Cheers ! |
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we need incentivize masternodes to provide platform services.
Tanking the ROI on their collateral due to pushing the reward ratio way past the point of diminishing returns does not seem to be a very optimal way of doing that. We are number 82 and falling. Soon be a Page 2 crypto. DCG now pulling an impressive global audience of all of 45 people for the quarterly report. (They should contract my local street busker to present it. He has a bigger pull).  I agree with you that the falling ROI will result in more masternodes leaving the network, I believe we should divert more of the network rewards to the Masternodes to subsidise them and slow this trend. |
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You have been arguing for many years, but the price and rating continues to fall.
Litecoin and Bitcoin do not have masternodes, but they are growing.
Sure, but the falling price has nothing to do with what Tok is talking about. The advantage that Bitcoin has is that its first 1 million coins never made it to market, so the price can stay inflated because Satoshi is not taking profit. In the case of Dash we emitted our first one million coins at a rock bottom price (primary market) and ever since then, those first adopters have been taking huge profit into a pool of just 10.5 million coins. This radical asymmetry in our coin distribution is the reason we are struggling with the larger prices, it has nothing to do with how the coin is mined. |
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You might have had a point if my perspectives hadn't been vindicated by events. You seem to be imagining that they somehow haven't.
You haven't been though. The reason for the miner reallocation https://docs.dash.org/en/stable/introduction/features.html#block-reward-allocation was because Dash was in a secular down trend at the time and plumbed a low of even $35 briefly before bouncing back up. If anything, you can say that the block reward reallocation failed to reverse that down trend, nothing more, but you can't say the recent price action is because of the reallocation, there is simply no evidence of that. |
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Discussion on mining, energy and other topics:
Has your account been hacked, Tokenormal? You posted a scam video! |
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Can anyone explain how the previously announced maximum coin supply of 84 000 000 became 18 900 000?
That is an interesting topic, Alexey45, here is the definitive account on how that happened https://youtu.be/O39kWbOu11M?t=1473 Once you watched that part, rewind and start from the beginning because the whole video is fascinating! |
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The hashrate is only a measure of the carbon foot print of the network, in the case of Bitcoin it is up 9% this epoch making a new record high. The chain is not more secure because of it, it is not more valuable because of it, all the additional hashrate does is create pollution, waste resources and make the world a worse place. Dash has precisely the right amount of hashrate to secure the chain, the raw number is not at all important, what is important is that the network pools the majority of the available hashrate to it, which Dash certainly does. Being a hybrid coin, Dash gets as much of its network security from the masternode network as it does from the miners, so Dash is not solely reliant on POW to keep the chain secure.
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you know if he still have his two master nodes?. Or did he finally give up and sell in the face of falling prices?
I always thought he was a good guy who helped those who had any problem on the board. Wherever he is, I hope he does well.
I suspect he still holds some Dash otherwise he wouldn't be posting about it in the Discord, but I think he found some of the personalities on this forum objectionable, including myself whom he blocks on Discord. Dash is currently trading at $153, nothing like a nice pump to piss off the haters.  |
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Let me help this shitcoin reach 7000 pages Shitcoin born of malice to scam and to enrich themselves with ponzi masternodes..to zeerooooooo!  qwizzy was right. You are a great leading indicator of the future of Dash. When yo wrote it was less than $ 120 and in a few hours we are more than $ 140 Thanks and best regards He is not qwizzy anymore. He is now quitty. Dash master propagandist already quit LOL He doesn't post here anymore, but he does post in the Dash Discord from time to time under the moniker Anonysuom#6766.  |
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Dash has been showing strength in an adverse market. https://www.tradingview.com/x/oXTJM93Y/I can't help but think we have shaken off a lot of dead wood on this drop below $120 and a cohort of stronger hands now own those coins. I think this pump could reach as high as $172 where I would be tempted to take a short. |
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Pre-mined Scam
Well, I guess that's it then, let's pack up and go home.  |
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Dash "coregroup" does not control Dash.
Dash Coup Group. |
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