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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] GRAFT - Universal Payment Processing Network on: February 19, 2018, 10:42:32 PM
There seems to be some over hype surrounding this coin. I hope it doesn't end up flopping like SmartCash.

Have a look at the ICO page:

- outrageously overpriced ICO (mining it is orders of magnitude cheaper, why would anyone want to buy in the ICO?)
- unsuccessful ICO (92 mil available to sell, only 22 mil sold) ... no surprise here. In fact, 22 mil is already too much.
- a hell of a lot of coins go to the team in some form (4+8+27% reserves - seriously?)
- mentions ICO cap in USD, but ICO priced in BTC.
- a long series of unverifiable (surreal?) claims, e.g. claims to have already achieved: 140 merchants for the mobile wallet, 40 partners on terminal integration, etc ... Wow, and this coin isn't even on any exchange. Why do you think they don't name any single one of those merchants/partners? (rhetorical question)
- team put forward a pool with 0.01% fee because "we want to help the community, we don't want money for ourselves". When their pool reached a few MH/s, guess what happened to that 0.01% fee? It became 1%.

Good luck to those who actually bought in this ICO.

p.s. Has anyone asked all advisors about it (scammy ICOs slap on names all the time)? Though this looks like a Ukraine get-together, international footprint is minimal at best.



I have no affiliation with the Graft team, however, i'll take a punt.

  • From my understanding the Graft project requires a large decentralized network. Graft is never going to take off with 5-10 M/hs of network hash. It needs the kind of Network support that ETN gets. That's why the mining incentives are so high. Regardless of the ICO pricing, over 22 million were sold, so somewhere in the vicinity of 5 million USD. It's hardly unsuccessful when you consider that most of the new Cryotonight coins had no ICO( because they would have barely been able to scrape together anything). They also offer no real product or solution, just a forked Monero chain that offers nothing Monero doesn't. At least Graft is unique here.
  • The 27% in reserves does need to be cleared up, however, the logical reason for this is that the project is very ambitious(Far more than people realize) and if it is to succeed then it's going to require more funding further down the track. Keeping an amount in reserves mean they can raise more capital when the price is far more established. It's not some kind of "scam", it's just they're planning now for a successful future
  • I'm not sure why the ICO is priced in BTC, but hardcap in USD. Needs to be cleared up
  • They could very well have signed up that many merchants and partners. All are probably small time. This too needs to be cleared up.
  • The pool fee changed from 0.01% to 1% because the mining community were complaining that only charging a 0.01% was encouraging centralization( going against their decentralized model) because too many were mining on the official pools instead of spreading hash across all private pools, where fees were generally higher( 1-2%).  It had nothing to do with the Graft team trying to profit.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] GRAFT - Universal Payment Processing Network on: February 18, 2018, 10:18:59 AM
Is there a page that shows GRAFT mining pools according to hashpower? Right now I know 2 bigger pools Hashrate:

graftpool.net
www.graftpool.online

But they make a total of around 13 MH/s, so does the extra 23 MH/s come from individual miners/small pools?

EDIT: Ok, found a big one https://easyhash.io/graft


 



http://grafttool.com/graft-pool-stats
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