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41  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Situation about ICE ROCK MINING (ROCK1 Token) No buyback as promised!!! on: May 13, 2018, 07:25:58 PM
I would suggest contacting lauda about this. He ran the bounty campaign of this what should have been obvious ponzi.

I think it was aTriz: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2196095.0

You can't say it's an obvious ponzi, not yet and not in the past.

It is very clearly a ponzi. They are offering 300%+ annual returns; anyone offering these levels of returns are either a ponzi or are otherwise fraudulent.

aTriz was the one who posted the bounty thread, however aTriz posted nearly all of the bounty campaigns managed by ALU. Lauda's role of managing the bounty campaigns was mostly behind the scenes and is equally responsible for running the bounty campaign of this scam. 

Thank you for the insight, how the bounty was managed, did aTriz and Lauda get paid from IceRock?

Did you see the pics of IceRock? They have done lots of them from first phase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKmjn8VvJH4
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So many new ICO, how to check if it's scam? on: May 13, 2018, 05:15:19 PM
I'm really embarassed, why people don't do a proper research about projects. Scams are getting a real problem and who has thought after BitConnect, they'll be warned, was wrong. Other side too, people are fast in spreading scam accusations and this ist also very dangerous for good projects getting tagged as scam athough they aren't. I hope everyone will calm down and do some good analysis before judging.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥 [ANN] 🔥 [ICO] 🚀 Miner One - Cutting-Edge Bitcoin Mining. 🔵 🔵 Crowdfunded. on: May 13, 2018, 04:58:12 PM
fantastic <> good
it was fantastically cynic and shameless


and registering new account here just to post how you love them and trust them...
MIO marketing smells like Baltic-village.

Both have qualities, maybe have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3532364

I thinks it's important to fight the FUD.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] Ambit (AMBT) Become part of the Mining Family | Presale LIVE! on: May 13, 2018, 04:52:02 PM
I don't understand, why envion had raised $100 millions, but Ambit yet only $2 millions. Comparing these two projects, Ambit is less complex. They have the experience of buliding a whole farm. 
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Situation about ICE ROCK MINING (ROCK1 Token) No buyback as promised!!! on: May 13, 2018, 04:43:16 PM
I would suggest contacting lauda about this. He ran the bounty campaign of this what should have been obvious ponzi.

I think it was aTriz: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2196095.0

You can't say it's an obvious ponzi, not yet and not in the past.
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Situation about ICE ROCK MINING (ROCK1 Token) No buyback as promised!!! on: May 13, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
@SKRAAA - read OP again. You are misleading readers and potential investors!

There was no adequate buyback for ROCK1 Token as the promised in May! Period!


OP, you are the most misinformed here! Your accusations against SKRAAA are totally wrong!

OP has no sense he is writing about, he is just ignoring the truth. Only being rude to IceRock and then get kicked off their telegram channel is only blamed to the behaviour of OP. The reason questions getting deleted on telegram is they are dumb and offending. Coming in shout it is a scam will be only result you get kicked off.

SKRAAA is right, there were payouts and IceRock declared it, everyone can seet it and ask users from first phase. There were delays, but all problems get solved. The team is very honest, but if you are rude it is your problem.


Regardless of whatever the buyback situation currently is with the ROCK1 and ROCK2 token (although I'm in favor of the OP here), I think that we can all agree on the fact that Ice Rock Mining is shady at best as a organization.

They literally guarantee you making over 300% per year off your investment, and I fail to see how that can be done without running a ponzi scheme of some sort. Perhaps they'll just pull off the scam as soon as the ICO ends, even.

If they are indeed kicking people out from telegram, then that's another sign of a scam. But honestly, what's on their site alone and their promises should already be enough to say that it's a con.

You are misinformed too, please do your own reserch on every channel avaible. Then you'll see it's not a scam and first phase is already running.


They literally guarantee you making over 300% per year off your investment, and I fail to see how that can be done without running a ponzi scheme of some sort.

Only Ponzis can claim Guaranteed returns, because they know that won't be paying it anyway. The OP is correct, the argument that some tokens were bought back doesn't hold water as it might be simply to keep the Ponzi running and to get more investors. It's funny how people continue to get scammed in these schemes; I personally know a few people who were burned in BitConnect and still continue to invest in these. Some people never learn.

Please compare business model of BitConnect to IceRock. There is nothing but only promises (BitConnect) versus mining operations you can see (IceRock)

47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] Ambit (AMBT) Become part of the Mining Family | Presale LIVE! on: May 13, 2018, 12:26:28 AM
It's a great project with one of the best proofs, that they are legit. You know what you buy and you know what you get. I'm wondering, why this good project does not reach softcap yet. It seems to be very undervalued.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: May 13, 2018, 12:19:17 AM
I don't think it's a scam, but they have huge problems in production. Don't know if they will be successful in the end, but I think they try it and so you can't call it a scam yet. It's a real project.
However it is possible the price per token will still go down so lots of people will sell now before ENV get nearly worthless. It is very likely, that there will be mass-sells next days, because MinerOne ends it's ICO, Ice Rock and Ambit too. All of them have better proofs that they are legit so lots of people will sell ENV and buy other ICO like IceRock, MIO, AMBT or at least hold in crypto.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥 [ANN] 🔥 [ICO] 🚀 Miner One - Cutting-Edge Bitcoin Mining. 🔵 🔵 Crowdfunded. on: May 12, 2018, 11:47:20 PM
Fantastic new message from CEO:

Quote from: den_penta
We'll see on Wednesday (when CEO live planned).
It smells very bad - they change plans (not yet) on last time of ICO.
New mining site location!
It's strong red flag for the project.

LOL, at first it's for you a fantastic new message and then a strong red flag, are you kiddin?
MinerOne knows when there is a better option and so I trust them.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT on: February 21, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
Hi,

will I receive mining profits, if my ROCK2 token are stored in a ledger?
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