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41  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.081 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 20, 2013, 06:44:43 AM
What happens if some of the 10k chips don't work? Or if the final PCB received doens't work? Since each chip is allocated to a person this might be a problem right?

Avalon has promised that they will send working and tested chips ONLY. As for the PCB, it will be a working and tested design prior of soldering the Avalon chips.
As I said in one of the previous posts, there is good chance something goes wrong until the time we have working asic miner, so everybody has to do his/her risk assessment on his/her own. As far as I'm concerned, those 2 positions you mention, hold the least risk among others.
42  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.081 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 19, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
2013-05-19:
- A fatal math error was discovered at the chip's cost. This was my mistake and take full responsability for it. John's escrow fee wasn't covered by the final chips price. This is fixed now and if there are missing funds regarding John's escrow fee, i will be providing this out of my pocket. Lesson learned.
- I'm considering the aspects of building smaller, 1 chip USB miners also, based on the K1 project from Bkkcoins. I'll provide updates regarding thsi too.
- I have to create the text content of our website. After this, we can go live, probably during next week.

Lesson learning appreciated, but as you were kind enough to arrange this group at no fee cost for you (from what I've seen so far other group buys have 7 to 10% fee for the person, arranging it) I still think that the 2% fee should be paid by participants in the group buy and I will pay my part and my advice is for the other participants to do so. Even this way 0.081 btc per chip is the lowest price in a group buy from Avalon, as far as I am aware.

To which escrow address and in what manner should I send my escrow tax?
43  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.081 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 19, 2013, 05:45:24 PM
It is a little confusing based on your posts what one will actually be getting if one orders in this thread. If I order 16 chips, do I get the chips, or a completed 16 chip miner? Your pricing seems like it is based on just the chips since you can't possibly sell the completed units for just the chip cost (not without taking a huge loss yourself anyway), and yet you seemed to have stated in a few places (like the above post) that you will be providing people who ordered in this thread with complete units.

Could you clarify a little bit on what specifically you are offering and at what prices?

If you are about to list completed units on your website, have you built out a completed unit and verified that it works? If not, when do you expect that to happen?

If you are really offering completed units for just the chip cost, count me in for a few Smiley

Right now, we are gathering to complete 1 batch of 10,000 Avalon chips, at the terms described in the 1 post.

PCB is a matter of development right now, but from what I've discussed with t13hydra, klondike design is closest to completion, easiest and cheaper to produce. Expectected price for this design, according to last calculation is 75-100 Euro. This price is paid alone from what you've paid (or will pay) for the chips you order. 80 chips (or more) designs are subject to further discussion and so far nor price, nor 100% for production is agreed upon.

So, what you can order so far is Avalon chips, at the price and terms described in first post.
After that it will be clear how much/what models PCB will be produces and how much they will cost. There will be import fee, when chips arrive from Avalon to t13hydra, there will be shipping fee, when the chips are dispatched to you and it will be based depending on your location. If you are located outside EU, there could be import tax, which you'll have to pay, too.

There is 8-10 weeks waiting time, after the order is placed with Avalon. If everything is going as expected, my estimation for working PCB boards must be middle of August/start of September.

There is good risk something goes wrong, changes in bitcoin scene, drop of prices, etc, etc. Do your risk assessment and place your order if you are ok with the odds.
44  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.079 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 16, 2013, 07:25:06 AM
Furthermore, I have this factory in my town - http://www.set.bg/index.php?lang=en

They offer PCB production and providing and soldering the smaller elements over the PCB, I can contact them and ask for a price. But for me to contact them, I have to have the PCB design along with the list of the smaller elements, which will be on the board.

Do we have such schematics?
45  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.079 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 16, 2013, 07:09:23 AM
No problem, I thought you missed my PM.
So I'm in with 1000 chips, will arrange payment as my coins are at mtgox... will send payment tomorrow, I guess.

Sure, no problem.


hacko.bg; 1000; 79; 1L1yVgod8mAhBqQNY1t6mjz9F1RyufDiMd
46  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.079 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 15, 2013, 08:40:56 PM
No problem, I thought you missed my PM.
So I'm in with 1000 chips, will arrange payment as my coins are at mtgox... will send payment tomorrow, I guess.
47  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy] 0.079 - Avalon Chips - Escrow by John K. (Europe / RO) + PCB on: May 15, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
How sure and guaranteed is the board production and will you be able to offer them when the chips come in? Do you have an estimate for the price for the biggest boards (boards for 40 and 80 or more chips)

My plan is for buying 1000 chips (or some round number, depending on the count of chips per board). Furhthermore, I can order up to 500 over those 1000, depending on the answer I get. (mostly friends and family)

The other reason, asking for bigger boards, is because I plan to make waterblocks for the boards, which can give me possibility to overclock the chips further.
48  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: n00b advice and help pls on: May 14, 2013, 04:53:51 PM
For bitcoin, overclocking memory won't help, it will even worse the things as the memory only will heat up the PCB. For BTC mining, set is as low as possible from MSI Afterburner.
49  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi all :D on: May 14, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
hi ...
50  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are some people so Anti Bitcoins?? on: May 13, 2013, 10:39:39 PM
Fear is driven from a lack of understanding and a deficiency of curiosity.
+1

It is in the nature of a human to deny everything new. Look back at history from ancient times, plenty of examples.
51  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How many bitcoins do you have? on: May 11, 2013, 05:49:14 PM
100 btc
300 ltc
and a 100 square kilometers clounds in the sky Smiley
52  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Български on: May 11, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
За тук някой замислял ли се е да влиза?

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