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41  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bullrun will always come , Newbies do your research well on: December 14, 2018, 06:31:28 AM
Bull run is not always to come but timely  to come as always. If we say always come then the market should always bull run and won't ever experience drastic deadly dump. Patient is a must to wait the market to recover and see the progress that could happen. Due to excitement newbies wouldn't like to search because  they are in the stage to trust everything is good.
Yep the problem here is when the bullrun will happen again? We all know that when crypto market was booming or hype before, every coin price was a speculative price and not based on demand. Those crypto projects still need several years to get decent demand.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: This is the FINAL on: December 14, 2018, 04:11:25 AM
Even though the token has a good project and makes every investor interested but when the bear market position is as it is now they will have the fate of breaking into other tokens and altcoins. The decline in the price of cryptocurrency does not see the potential that exists in the project, but the investor project only looks at market conditions. I haven't seen when the bearish market comes in there is an altcoin that has remained stable or has increased.
Actually crypto market is still very young that many projects in it (especially projects that started when crypto was booming) are still in the beginning stage (still less than 5 years) so we still cant really see the real demand of the project yet.

But as the thread starter said that many projects are afraid to list their tokens on an exchange because of the possibility of the price to drop/fall, then what comes to my mind is theyre so greedy and many other negativities (like theyre not really serious about their project or they dont even know if their project will have high demand).

You know why? Because if they think that their project will get demand then the price will rise again and why theyre still afraid to do that? Because they also want to sell their own tokens with high price, they dont want to really hold their tokens until their project get enough demand.

Makes sense?

"Oh damnn, he knows my plan"  Grin Grin Grin
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO ✅] MyShield 🔰 Decentralized Anti-Scam Platform 🔰 on: December 11, 2018, 06:00:04 AM
I hope that you will hold a Token Sale before the end of 2018, I can not miss it.  I like the prospects for the development of your anti-scams platform.
This is a very long time, there is no date yet and the telegram group has become deserted.
I would like to know how much money have they raised so far in the private sale? Did they reach the softcap already?
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]MobileBridge Momentum - Revolutionising Marketing & Loyalty. Sale 26.04 on: December 11, 2018, 05:56:36 AM
https://mobilebridge.com/newsletter-october-2018-momentum-protocol/

So when will the whitelisted people be able to invest and when will that period end? How much money have you raised so far?
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: December is coming no real growth for alts yet... on: December 08, 2018, 04:35:39 AM
Guys, I don't have any hope for growth, so december is a real bloodbath for me.
I lost my funds again and have no idea how to return my portfolio balance back
Did you invest money that you cant afford to lose it? Every price before when the cryptomarket was booming is just a speculative price.
There are not many altcoins that are already delivered value to the market and have some demand so logically you still cant make profit now. But not all of them of course..
46  Economy / Economics / Re: 2018 the year of correction? on: December 08, 2018, 04:25:00 AM
We can say that the year of 2018 is year of correction , because there might be things that really need ti be corrected as part of this bearish season why that this is happenning ,so there might be reasons that make this market falldown , so as part of the crypto community we are also part of responsibility that make this market down , so this year must ve corrected so that for the coming year , it might have a good trend market which is the 2019, so again let support bitcoin and cryptocurrrency.
Still no one knows about that, there is no sign for reversal market yet. I think the only one who knows about this is the whales and manipulators. Every market movement these days are unexpected.
47  Economy / Economics / Re: New investor and prices on: December 07, 2018, 04:07:56 AM
Semuanya sangat tergantung dari seberapa besar tingkat antusiasme mereka terhadap pertumbuhan harga nya. Tapi kebanyakan dari mereka, lebih suka untuk memilih opsi, tatkala harga terus beranjak naik, karena biasanya investor baru hanya fokus pada keuntungan semata.
Please use english sir.

the number of investors who enter depends on the level of trust in crypto currencies. like now, like a lot of decreases in the level of trust so many sell it. we can see, the current price has dropped dramatically
Most of ICOs are scams and even if there are still some ICOs that arent scam, most of them are also not really serious about their project, about making their product have demand and wanted by people. They just want to get quick money from the crowdfunding or ICO and playing around with their project.

We need some regulations on this to increase the trust and make ICOs have better results.


48  Economy / Economics / Re: CryptoCurrencies around the GLOBE on: December 07, 2018, 04:01:10 AM

Crypto currencies nowadays, I could say it is already popular in majority of the country. Though, it is still there's some country didn't know yet

about it, but most people all around the world didn't also know about crypto. Also I think we can expose this crypto through different social

media's in my own perception.
In my opinion, this is not an effective way anymore. I think most of people who live in countries that familiar with internet and modern technology are already aware with bitcoin, blockchain and cryptocurrency. But there is still no mass adoption because i think crypto isnt simple enough for common people and the market isnt really ready yet.
As far as i see, most of crypto projects are gambling with the market that they dont even know if there are people waiting for their product and ready to use it.
49  Economy / Economics / Re: CryptoCurrencies around the GLOBE on: December 06, 2018, 05:09:24 AM
I don't know the exact numbers but mainly based on the huge spike early this year, I'd say that alone created a huge buzz around the world. Even my sode of the world experiencee a huge spike on the people asking about crypto currency and how to get in. Unfortunately, when thr market crashed, most lost faith.
indeed crypto is famous in 2017, where there was a significant surge, many new bitcoiners were investing at that time, but their trust was lost and now many are frustrated, and that worsens the situation
Thats true. Why did that happen? Because all of those pumps and dumps before were based on speculative prediction and most of crypto projects are still not be able to deliver their real value to the global market yet.
50  Economy / Economics / Re: New investor and prices on: December 06, 2018, 05:02:27 AM
well i think every year that market will always making a new investor, so there has a time that when old investor out and the time when new investor come in. and that will not make the price being change if many investor are in that market. because the price market will change when demand higher than its supply
But thats not happening in crypto market. It was all about the hype and the bubble in the last year before. Many people and investors came in but now almost all of them already left the crypto market with bad experience when the bubble burst.
51  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can I still get wealthy through Bitcoin? on: December 04, 2018, 02:00:33 PM
You can still get rich through bitcoin, instead of keeping funds into your banks, just buy as the price has been dropping, keep buying as the price drops even further. Hold for two year, you will become rich for sure.
Well we can just wait until bitcoin becomes accepted on many more merchants and places widely so we will see the demand increase.
But unfortunately i dont see any good progress abour this so far.
52  Economy / Economics / Re: New investor and prices on: December 04, 2018, 01:47:16 PM
Investors are indeed very influential on price fluctuations. The more investors will make the market more active so that selling / buying will increase, this will make prices fluctuate and tend to increase. In addition, more and more investors make these coins experience good development, and people will be more confident to use them. Investors are very instrumental in the development of prices, because many investors prove that the coin has a good development.
Yes if there are many new investors coming to the crypto market then there will be a lot of new money coming in too. And also the other important thing is if the volume increase drastically then the price wont be manipulated easily anymore.
53  Economy / Economics / Re: How does bitcoin become a currency? on: December 03, 2018, 12:52:16 PM
In the beginning, BTC could be used to exchange of low value of virtual items, such as buying web sites or game points, virtual items, etc., afterwards, some people in order to get these virtual items, items may be in online auction own reality for BTC, others want to buy the real goods, but no BTC at hand, and then use real money to exchange BTC, as a result, BTC begin to flow, and have a "value".


In other words, bitcoin is inherently valuable as a means of payment; If it loses its function as a means of payment, it becomes worthless.

The value of money: it exists because of payment.

Bitcoin become currency because bitcoin is now available for any transaction.Its a good currency especially when the price is increase.lt will give us more comfortable for any payments.
There are some place where bitcoin is accepted as a payment option but it does not reach wide enough yet.
I saw steam was accepting bitcoin before and i think it could be a very big opportunity for bitcoin but now its not accepted anymore. Does anyone know why? That is a very unfortunate thing.
54  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoins - What will happens to BTC on: December 03, 2018, 12:47:55 PM
Bitcoin can still have many all-time highs in the future once big investors start to buy again.
You cant guarantee that will happen right? Or you have some insider information about the reason that will happen?
As for me , Im not really sure that will happen because there is no trigger so far and the crypto market isnt really attractive anymore.
55  Economy / Economics / Re: CryptoCurrencies around the GLOBE on: December 03, 2018, 12:32:58 PM
I don't know the exact numbers but mainly based on the huge spike early this year, I'd say that alone created a huge buzz around the world. Even my sode of the world experiencee a huge spike on the people asking about crypto currency and how to get in. Unfortunately, when thr market crashed, most lost faith.
Yes, there many many people who already left and lost interest in crypto market, especially the new comers who just joined in around December 2017 (when the hype was ongoing). So now getting more people into this market wont be an effective way to increase the crypto market cap or the adoption , i think the only way is if there is a very innovative idea about integrating blockchain with big problem in real world (need a very effective solution and except finance field).
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: This is a golden time on: December 02, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
Perhaps this is another trap, but if you compare the current prices with January 2018 and we will see that now it is very profitable to buy something. Of course the market can still reduce prices. Nobody knows. I think that you need to buy and wait in the wings...
When compared with January indeed this is the right time to buy anything in crypto,you must HODL for a long time maybe one year in order to produce abundant profits.If the market falls again you must to stay calm and always the HODL is a long term investment.
Why buy now if you maybe you can buy lower than now? Why HODL if you can accumulate (sell before dump and buyback later)? It will always depend on your strategy, if you can put more effort in this market, then it will be better to accumulate.
Well, for gaining the actual profit i think now its not the time yet, many crypto projects are still on the beginning stage and the market isnt ready yet.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is crypto legal in your country? on: December 02, 2018, 01:26:55 PM
In my country (Indonesia), we can only use or the only currency allowed is Indonesia Rupiah (IDR) for every transactions.
Well , exchanging cryptocurrency to IDR is still allowed here and we have a local crypto exchange called Indodax.
58  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Trading or Online betting? 2k Usd budget. on: December 02, 2018, 01:24:25 PM
What a tough question. I am now engaged in both topics. And in every field I lost money at the start. But now I consistently make a profit. I can not even really say what is more difficult. Betting is much easier to understand and start earning, if there is at least one discipline in which you understand. But in trading, it is much easier to insure your transactions and work on the system, constantly making profits over long distances. I would still say that trading is safer than betting, but it’s harder to understand from the point of view of a beginner.
2 thing that we should learn are money management and risk management, those 2 skills will be very useful on both trading and gambling fields.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: why so many peoples belived in pump 2018? on: November 29, 2018, 02:57:41 AM
I was used to see high graphics for my coins back in 2017 so I was thinking it will happen again this year. I still hope it does
pump occurs if there are many things that support such as mass adoption, positive news, high confidence in the market, a positive trend and etc, but for this year there haven't been many aspects that support the price of bitcoin for pump. I think you have to be patient for longer. at least 2019 or 2020 will be a turning point for bitcoin
Yes, i think for this year (2018) is already over with a conclusion that this is a bear year for cryptocurrency. We already near the end of 2018 and in this period people usually cash out because of holiday.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How much it is possible to earn on bounty? on: November 29, 2018, 02:50:17 AM
I think it may be possible that bounty payments henceforth may be very much low valued that what it is last year and early this year. This is an obvious discouragement for a lot of people but for the rest bounty faithfuls may smile eventually when the not so valueable bounty token gains in value when the market returns. It will be a great one. So far I am not interested in what their values could be as the market forces will always crash prices but holding can compensate on the long run
The problem here is many projects will fail because of this bear market and no one see crypto market as a great place to invest anymore except for some special projects. So the bounty participants wont get paid at all.
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