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41  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 17, 2014, 05:43:20 PM
HELLO,

What is going on with the SERVER???
Has anyone asked the slush pool owner?


Don't forget the Slush pool is on a different time than those of us in the US so at 0400 Slush pool time I would assume the owner is asleep. But maybe not and we post on here so fast when see something funny happening and over time, usually not very long really, it corrects itself somehow. By the time we flood the thread with posts it usually starts getting fixed. So they don't need to jump to repair for every short series of concerned posts we make.

Since I don't know how to set a backup mining site I'm stuck with what ever happens which is ok with me since everything does seem to get worked out on its own.

This is nothing against the question posted above by the member but thought it a good idea to remind everyone who forgot about the time difference. We n00bs have to stop being n00bs someday but for me seems it's going to be a long time from now. So much happens I've never seen before. LOL.  Roll Eyes
42  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 17, 2014, 04:31:41 AM
I think must be server is down and happend yesterday too for me.   you can ping ip and working.



Yes I was down yesterday also took awhile to get back on.
43  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 17, 2014, 04:25:35 AM
I've tried both pool URLs. Tried bfgminer and cgminer, no go. People who are in the pool and mining are going to be happy tonight.



I don't know - I'm on bfgminer and have seen it mining 3 blocks now not showing up on stats site 280925, 200926 now on 280928 so don't know if it shows mining on my system is that our block or not, i'm a n00b here. Sorry.
44  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 14, 2014, 03:46:27 AM
I don't see why ya'll are loyal to slushys pool with all these bugs n errors and slush not even caring enough to fix them...I quit this pool like 8-9 months ago when they first started to happen...and looks like there still happening....lol good luck too all you crazy loyal slushy fans


Bye Bye - and enjoy your new pool where ever it may be. Don't worry about those of us who wish to stay here on this pool, we are big girls and boys. I for one am loyal to no one but I am happy right now in this pool and it's obvious you are not. Why did you come back if you weren't happy months ago. You MUST have tried other pools while you were gone but still you came back to Slush's pool. I wonder why. Hmmmm. I wonder. LOL you'll probably be back again in 4 or 5 months anyway after having fun on other pools and still be unhappy. Ah well.

Just my opinion since you decided to put me down by saying I was a crazy loyal Slush fan and loyal to the Slush pool just because I happen to be using it. You know nothing about me but I learned something about you.Tongue
45  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 13, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
Can some one tell me why my system is continually spending more time stating BFL a through p being disabled then it's stating BFL a through p being re-enabled listing them in lines each time and doing this over and over with only a few hashes, maybe, l0 - l5 lines worth before starting the being disabled re-enable stuff again over and over? Taking up all my time with this. Just curious if there is a fix I need to do or another miner I need to run, I'm running bfgminer now.

Is this disconnecting me from mining pool every 15-20 sec until hashes start again..Huh Huh
46  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 11, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
Well after reading a lot more on this thread and a lot on other sites about their pools I've come to a conclusion that may not be a ground breaker for many but it is a conclusion anyway. It is very obvious there are and will always be those on or in any pool who wish to complain and become very upset with the pool. Every forum has these people complaining over and over how unfair the pool is and feel something is very wrong.

Ok, fair enough that's their opinion and we all have a right to our opinion. BUT, what I DON'T UNDERSTAND is if they are so dang unhappy about a pool - why don't they just leave it and stop causing problems and issues for those who are happy with the pool! It seems all pools are full of these people.

BETTER YET, why don,t they start their own pools if they think they have a better way? Why? Because they can't, they don't know how to even begin or the money to start so they just stay and complain.

Life is to short everyone - just enjoy and be happy that Slush pool is here for those of us to use who aren't smart enough to do it ourselves. Man I've learned so much in the past week I can't believe it and I WILL BE STAYING WITH SLUSH POOL for the duration because this pool seems fair and the other pools are no better if you read forums on them.

Like has been mention several times do some research then make your own decisions and just enjoy making what bitcoins you can - it's FUN.

Oh and this post has nothing to do with the above post on pings. I do think it is cool how they can take pictures of their computers and post them. Oh wait I just had a thought, am I considered as being a forum troll (if that is the right word) if so I will stop posting.   Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
47  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 10, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
May I suggest you have this example placed in the Knowledgebase as an example for us simple minded n00bs to read? It really helped me to understand a lot more how Slush pool works.Roll Eyes
48  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 10, 2014, 09:35:24 PM
Simply put, shares just before the block is found are the only ones that are relevant, to discourage pool hopping.  

The function is an exponential weighting, so the effect is extremely strong: if you mine many shares, but disconnect just before the block is found, your payout will reduce drastically.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002
I'll try to explain it with an example ...

I (= the pool) have a huge field (= round) in which a treasure (= bitcoin block) is buried, but no one knows where (=when the round will end), so I need to dig until I find it.

I need diggers (=miners) to help me find that treasure and will divide it between them instead of paying fixed salary, so they will get more for their work, but ...
I have paid for that field (=pool infrastructure and support), so I will keep 2% of the treasure for me (=pool fee)
I don't have an excavator, but it's faster with it.
There is a risk that the some diggers will come for a day or two, with the hope that they will find the treasure fast and leave before we find the treasure.
There is a risk that the some diggers will stay on the field pretending to work

So ... I need a strategy to find such with:
 own excavators if possible, but even hand digging will do + to keep them with me until the treasure is found + not pay to those who are not actually working + divide it fair and quick, so we can move on the next field

To motivate those with excavators - I will need to pay based on the cubic meters of soil excavated per hour (=pool diff)

--- and now Slush specific strategy ---

Those who are lazy or just pretend to work will not bring soil often, so they should get less (=exponentially reduced reward)

To reach the goal I will write down the cubic meters brought at some location on a sheet of paper, but won't keep all of them - just the last one to divide it as fast as possible, so because of that ...

When it's full (=score reset) I will start a new one with a short summary of the previous, based on the same rules as if the treasure was found.

When the treasure is found I will divide it based on the cubic meters of soil excavated and brought at the location in the recent hours as:
 Those excavated during the last hour are counted in full
 Those in the hour before - in half ... and so on each hour reducing the volume paid in half until it falls below the minimum piece of the treasure (= 0.00000001 BTC)

 So if you stop working - you will loose your payment fairly quickly

Outcome:
 +
 If you have an excavator you will bring more and will be paid more, but if you are lazy you will bring it less often, then you will be paid less ... at the end you will be paid fairly for your work
 If you have no excavator, but hardworking - you bring less, but regularly ... you will be paid fair for your hard work

 -
 If you have an excavator, but it got broken (= internet connection down or miner down) and while fixing it, you missed the last hour of when the treasure was found ... you are paid less unfortunately
 If you have no excavator, but hardworking - you may still miss bringing soil in the last hour, because you need 1.5h per cubic meter (=low hasrate), but still be paid for all your work during the hours before ... you are paid less, because you are slow even it is not because you are lazy


Those who complain are the ones affected from the negatives of the strategy, but it's not mine (=the pool's) fault that your excavator got broken or you are too slow to keep up with the others.
You are free to dig for someone else (without complaints) if your excavator brakes too often or you are too slow compared to other workers and miss the payment of every digging campain


WOW, thank you for taking the time to put it in a simple and easy to understand example. I get it now! Great this should help everyone and if it doesn't what more can be done for them. This is a good post. Great job!!!!
Grin Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
49  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 10, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
See a total NOOB. I can't even figure out how to add a quote. Oh well, I enjoy this forum because I can learn so much! Tongue
50  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 10, 2014, 07:47:49 PM
I think this reply, comment sort of makes things fall into place for me and is what I have been feeling like doing and looking for and is what I am going to do. Thank you. Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Slush's pool is designed for "set it and forget it."  His scoring system promotes this behavior. So when people hop and freak out glitches occur, which n00bs get very upset over. 

Just forget about it and let the coins come in.  :-)
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51  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [450 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: January 10, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
Ok, now I think I understand the Score system for payouts, sort of, maybe, a little. You don't get paid the amount your hardware is showing as shares found, this totals up in each block found and the total is then divided by the total found shares from everyone contributing to the block or something like that. Then you get a figure on your actual reward. Your total shares found should be shown as contributed to each block however long that block takes to complete. Sounds sort of like maybe understandable.

I picked Slush's Pool because he has been working with Bitcoin since almost it's start and the pool was recommended by several friends. I can't say I even begin to understand it because I've had several large shares found in the past 3 days one 18m and another at 44.7m that's 44,700,000 at one time and 18,000,000 on the other. Now neither amount has shown up on my shares contributed toward any pool block. I've been running non-stop 24/7 the last 3 days since I started serious mining and I've never disconnected. Hmmm.

Am I a total NOOB. You bet I am! I've been on Slush for approx 3 weeks and reading approx 5 weeks total. My time on was just playing with 2 different lvl graphics cards to see how the system worked. I finally decided it may really work so I jumped in and now am running 50ghz soon to be 100ghz. When i jump I jump high, but I am still only a little tiny player in the overall pool. I've actually been online for approx 3 days now at a serious attempt at mining. I only look to get my hardware investment back and if it keeps going after that GREAT.

But since I don't really understand this pool yet I can't accuse the pool of stealing my found shares or hiding them etc and keeping them. It is concerning yes, but maybe it is just my misunderstanding on how the system works that makes me feel a little uncomfortable. I'm sticking with the Slush Pool just because maybe it is me and my not being able to fully understand the Score payout system like I mentioned above.

I'm not blindly following and trusting the pool yet as some state but I have to begin somewhere don't I. If we become uncomfortable with the pool I see no reason to post bad remarks about any pool. When you or I reach that level of not trusting a pool operator then what is stopping us from pulling plug and moving on to another pool and trying it!

Am I uncertain right now, yes, am I learning, yes, am I ready to accuse Slush of foul play, NO.  If I can't understand the payout system and can't figure why it show's I found large blocks which don't show up as credited towards the block then I either need to research more or move on right. Right.

But for now I'm sticking with Slush because well I wouldn't understand another pool either. LOL Cheesy
52  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I forgot what a serious pain in the ass the newbie jail is! on: January 10, 2014, 05:06:01 AM
Well I will try this. I think I sort of maybe understand how the Slush Pool works, maybe. So the numbers add up to a total per block that I generate I think they call them shares (should be points so won't confuse with a full share but anyway). Then your total for each block is somehow divided by the total shares found in the block and you get your total paid amount. Is this correct? I had an 18.4m and a 44.5m share found or whatever the number is on my screen, running a 50ghz system. But I don't see any big numbers like that shown as my contribution toward any block, only smaller numbers. Am I missing something, can't find any page to explain how system works keep getting error when go to Knowledge Base or site.Oh well have been awarded 3 .01 amounts so far in 48 hrs so maybe I just need to mine longer to fully understand system. Kiss
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