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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 06, 2018, 03:27:02 AM
Crypto currencies are new and the industries is just started to develop and i believe given crypto currencies time, it will rank up and be used for many payment option, one good about crypto currencies is that it is acceptable everywhere.

I think there is a lot of things that need to be prepared before cryptocurrencies can be successful as a medium of payment. I think each store online and the local store is not ready to accept cryptocurrency as their new payment system. besides that, the government needs to set up the infrastructure for applying and accepting cryptocurrency as a new payment gateway. I am sure that if everything is ready, we can use cryptocurrency as another payment system and we can pay with the cryptocurrency.
No doubt that sellers need infrastructure to accept a cryptocurrency for payment.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 05, 2018, 12:18:01 AM

There is potential there, but right now crypo is too volatile and too many roadblocks are in place.
In the US, one even has to determine taxes on BTC when used for purchases.

Too messy right now.
Part of making a cryptocurrency "regulator friendly" is providing a way for tax authorities to ensure the seller collected the appropriate sales tax for a purchase. 

This means there needs to infrastructure to help sellers determine what is the correct sales tax to collect.  Fortunately, most point of sale or "POS" systems have the ability to calculate sales tax.  Still, there are a lot of sellers that don't have such POS systems.  So, there is infrastructure to be created here.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 04, 2018, 05:30:25 PM
One thing for sure is because of it's decentralization that only a few companies accepting crypto, also government still lack of regulation related on cryptocurrency that's why it not accepted yet as medium payment but it will be after a few years because crypto is on mainstream.
For it to be widely used first merchants, retailers, vendors, suppliers, and other sellers must have the infrastructure to accept cryptocurrency as a type of payment.  Fortunately, there are a lot of advantages for sellers in accepting cryptocurrency.  Most importantly, the fees are much less than fees they pay to use credit/debit cards. 

It's these advantages that will drive sellers to accept cryptocurrency. 
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 04, 2018, 08:02:10 AM
I think this is due to the fact that many countries still do not want to accept cryptocurrencies as a means of payment. Many governments are against it and therefore some difficulties arise

The government has no measures and detailed plans to manage and create regulations in this area, and of course when they are out of control and people still use crypto as a payment method, many problems will arise, that could be money laundering or not paying taxes or using crypto for gambling, a country that always exists the problem, that country will soon collapse. So the government against and does not allow crypto to be used universally as the only way to avoid chaos, also, I think every user does not like to use crypto as payment method, it is probably very wasteful when the crypto always brings unexpected profits

There is no doubt in my mind that governments won't enthusiastically support cryptocurrency as a medium of payment until there is a cryptocurrency that is "regulator friendly".
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When will ICOs die? on: July 03, 2018, 10:04:42 PM
ICOs are an innovative fund raising approach for people with a great idea or invention that want to start a company.  I don't see it going away because it's a superior approach to fund raising than convertible notes or equity financing traditionally used to fund start up companies.  Instead, I see it evolving to make it safer for investors.

Right now, the challenge is how to make an ICO safe for investors prior to the "Token Generation Event", where the public including investors can buy and sell tokens on an exchange for fiat currency.  This is the riskiest period for investors because if there is never a Token Generation Event there isn't a way for investors to trade their yet to be issued tokens.

This is why in the United States at least there is the emergence of the Simple Agreement for Future Tokens or "SAFT".  A SAFT (see saftproject.org) helps protect the interests of both investors and the company.

The downside of a SAFT is only accredited investors may invest in a SAFT.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 03, 2018, 09:52:33 PM
I don't know about the current market as I think Crypto Currency is the perfect tool for any business out there, It provides all the protection and security everyone requires without losing a lot of money on charges/taxes and slow transactions. Crypto Currencies are now quite young and they will take over everything in some years until then take as much as advantage you can.
I agree that cryptocurrency payments have a lot of advantages for merchants, retailers, suppliers, vendors, and other types of sellers.  For certain, the transaction fees are nearly zero, especially when sellers compare the fees they pay to use card interchanges such as Visa or MasterCard.  And, they receive value instantly at the time of purchase, instead of having to wait three banking days which is the case with card payments.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 02, 2018, 05:20:16 PM
Yes right now, only small cryptocurrencies that can be used for the medium of payment in the real world. Not all parties or industries accept the many kinds of crypto and blockchain technology. But, crypto is always developing. It probably needs more time to introduce the benefits and simplicity of cryptocurrency to the world. It is good for some cryptos have been accepted. We hope that more cryptos are valuable for the medium of payment.
I agree that it seems like further innovation is necessary. 

Among the improvements is in the user experience for consumers.  There needs to be an application where consumers can quickly and easily load their fiat currency from their bank account or credit/debit card into this application that in turn can instantly convert this into a cryptocurrency ready to spend with a merchant.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 02, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
the reason for this is simple - too high costs for the transfer and long confirmation of the transaction. alternatively, use third-party services as lightning network, but their implementation will take time
I agree that an obstacle is the process of converting to and from fiat currency. 

For example, when I buy bitcoin from CoinBase it takes over a week to receive.  And, I must pay transaction fees of several US dollars.  Similar process when selling bitcoin.

For consumers that have access to credit/debit cards where they have instant access to their bank accounts and pay no fee for using them, there aren't many advantages of using cryptocurrency over credit/debit cards.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 02, 2018, 01:25:58 AM
Basically, Bitcoin is an asset just like gold and bitcoin has unique feature as currency.

When people decide to use fiat, they require to having stable value unlike cryptocurrency still consider volatile until now so that's why most people can't use bitcoin as legal currency like fiat !
I agree that extreme price volatility such as what we saw between November 2017 and February 2018 is an obstacle.

However, the past several months cryptocurrency prices have been stabilizing because speculation has been driven out of the market.  Further, the last couple weeks bitcoin's price has been more stable than the US dollar.

So, cryptocurrency is approaching similar price stability as fiat currency.  That's why I don't believe it price volatility is that significant of an obstacle.  Instead, I see government support of cryptocurrency as a medium of payment and awareness being the two most significant obstacles.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 01, 2018, 11:23:25 PM
One thing for sure is because of it's decentralization that only a few companies accepting crypto, also government still lack of regulation related on cryptocurrency that's why it not accepted yet as medium payment but it will be after a few years because crypto is on mainstream.
Governments won't enthusiastically support cryptocurrency as a medium of payment until there is a cryptocurrency that is "regulator friendly".

They see cryptocurrency as a tool to evade regulations.  This is because all existing cryptocurrencies, a) hide the identity of the Buyer and Seller, and more importantly, b) hide the detail of the nature of the purchase.  Without this information regulators such as tax authorities or customs agencies can't do their jobs.

Their support for a cryptocurrency will come only when this cryptocurrency allows their regulators to their jobs.  "Regulator friendly" means there must be a way to learn the detail about the nature of the purchase.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: July 01, 2018, 05:39:26 PM
I think you are thinking pessimistic about the future of the cryptocurrency market. For the next 10 years, cryptos will become famous and become the global currency of the entire world. At that time, cryptocurrency will replace real money to become the most popular currency in the world.
Fame is not the problem of cryptocurrency any more. I believe it has gone viral to help acceptability but the use is still limited and people's confidence is declining. If bitcoin can't serve as payment why can't other. Crypto has some innovation in online shopping with payment medium but still struggle to thrive. I wish improvement comes in the nearest future
I agree that most people have heard of bitcoin.  I asked virtually everyone I know whether they have heard of bitcoin.  100% said yes.

However, when I ask people who have heard of bitcoin whether they know what cryptocurrency is, all but one person said no.

So, while people of heard of bitcoin, too fee understand what cryptocurrency is, how it works, why they should trust it, and, most importantly, what about it makes it superior to traditional payments so they will want to use it as a medium of payment.

It's going to take a significant campaign to get enough people aware of it and wanting to use it.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 30, 2018, 06:32:52 PM
I think it's because not all country is accepted cryptocurrencies for a payment system and besides that, the price of cryptocurrencies still too volatile which is not good to be used as a payment. people cannot accept if the price is always changing in any second and if they want to use cryptocurrencies as a payment when they buy something, the price of that product will always change and they need to spend more amount of coin when the price increase. and we know that the price of the product will always increase in the future, so they will need to spend more.
Yes, extreme price volatility where the value of routinely drops or rises significantly in less than 24 hours can be an obstacle to wide spread use.  

While in the past year, especially between November and February, there has been instances of extremely price volatility, in the past 90 days price of cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin have been stabilizing.  In the past several weeks the price has changed less than 5%, which is similar to the change in value of fiat currencies such as the USD.  

For example, on 13th of June bitcoin was 6299.52 USD.  At the time of this post it is 6337.85 USD.  That's less than 1% change in price over a 2 week period.

During the same period the US Dollar Price Index went from 93.82 to 94.58.  This also was less than a 1% change.

So, during the past couple weeks the price volatility of bitcoin was actually less than the US dollar.

Speculation was the driver for extreme price volatility of cryptocurrencies in November through January.  As speculation was driven out of the market, prices stabilized.  Over the next year I expect price volatility of cryptocurrency to be similar to price volatility of fiat currency.

This is why I don't believe price volatility will be a significant obstacle to wide spread use over the next few years.  Instead, I see other obstacles posters on this thread have highlighted being more significant.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 30, 2018, 02:11:33 AM
Popularity, regulations, and common used. I think every new technology takes times until it was widely used by the people, new technology need to adapt first and people are feel safe when using it and the more it still tiny, the more chance for us to hold as many cryptocurrencies until it was expensive.
Yes, all technology goes through the Diffusion of Innovations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations).  Cryptocurrency is no exception.

We are in the "Early Adopter" phase, which are cryptocurrency visionaries and enthusiast such as we at bitcointalk.org.

Geoffrey Moore in his book, Crossing the Chasm,  suggests that transitioning from the Early Adopter phase to the Early Majority requires special messaging.  His point is success has less to do with the technology (even though this does need to be truly disruptive) and more to with communication and education to reach the Early Majority.

This is why I believe there needs to be a significant marketing and education campaign making people aware of cryptocurrency, what are its advantages over traditional mediums of payment, how it works, and why they should trust it. 
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 29, 2018, 06:54:06 AM
IMO, these prevents mass adoption:
1. Ease of use (not many people are technical to understand priv keys, addresses, mining, etc)
2. Security (in terms of preventing one's self to be scammed, goes back to item 1)
3. Media is still propagating bad image about crypto, we can understand that they are controlled by the banks anyhow.
4. Acceptance of merchants for daily use.

I agree.

What items #1, #2, and #3 have in common is the need for compelling applications that make it fast, easy, and safe for buyers to use and sellers to accept cryptocurrency payments.  The applications I have seen are just too cumbersome of a user experience for most people to use.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 28, 2018, 11:39:09 PM
At first you should know that cryptocurrency is not legalized in any country yet so it's the main reason why cryptocurrency can't be used as a payment method. If there is any company/shop/store/restaurant accept cryptocurrency for payment so it'll be kind of tax evade. Beside cryptocurrency has banned in some countries so cryptocurrency can't be a global payment method at the moment Grin
It's legal in the United States of America to name just one country.

Very few countries have banned all cryptocurrencies for payment.  

I believe so few countries have banned crypto payments mostly because it's not used widely (thus my creating this thread!).  It's not enough of a threat to worry about.

Now, I agree with you that, when crypto payments experience greater adoption, governments may ban certain cryptocurrencies for the reason you highlight... tax evasion.  This is one of a series of regulations governments are concerned crypt payments evade.

That is why I think before a cryptocurrency will see widespread use is it needs to be "regulator friendly".  I'm not aware any cryptocurrency that is "regulator friendly" because all cryptocurrencies hide the identity of the buyer & seller along with detail about what was purchased, where it was purchased, what, if any, taxes were paid, and so forth.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 28, 2018, 11:03:30 PM
Cryptocurrency is volatile. The price is not stable yet..imagine someone buys a good worth $1000 from your site and you wake up to discover it has dropped to $900

No doubt that price volatility is an obstacle.

Cryptocurrency exchange rates presently are driven primarily by speculation.  The result is the sometime large change in price that we often call "high volatility".

Currency exchange rates are volatile.  Cryptocurrency is no exception. 

As speculation is driven out of the cryptocurrency market, cryptocurrency exchange rates will mimic fiat currency exchange rates.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 28, 2018, 08:25:02 PM
As of right now, cryptocurrencies are still new to a lot of people, even a lot of people in my country also have trouble going cashless payment, so it gonna take quite a while for people to get used to fully digital/cashless.
For certain there is a lot of work necessary to inform people about cryptocurrency as a medium of payment.  While virtually everyone I ask, "have you heard of bitcoin?" answers yes, virtually none of these people when I ask my follow up question, "Do you know what cryptocurrency is?" answer yes (so far, only 1 person knows and he is a computer scientist!).

I believe it will take a campaign similar in scope as what American Express and Bank of America did in the 1960s to educate the public about credit card payments.  This took over a decade before the public used cards for a significant percentage of their payments.  In fact, not until the invention of the debit card did cards surpass cheques (checks) as a medium of payment.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 28, 2018, 07:17:26 AM

There are various reasons on why cryptocurrencies are not circulating in the market as the main medium of exchange, such as: first, it has a highly-volatile price that can serve as a double-edged sword in both the consumer and the producer, its limited supply in the market can go inflationary on the year 2140 (since that year will be the projected year that all bitcoins will be mined out), other countries cannot adapt a technology that would support electronic payment as they are still underdeveloped and developing, and the government views bitcoin as a foreign entity that is a threat to the society.
No question that price volatility creates problems for sellers (retailers, merchants, and suppliers) because it takes several days to convert cryptocurrencies into fiat and during that time the value of their payment might go down significantly.  Similar problem for buyers (consumers) because it takes several days to convert fiat currency into cryptocurrency.  Once again, during that time the value of their cryptocurrency might go down significantly.  Of course, both buyers and sellers benefit it value of the cryptocurrency going up.

A tactic that would address this, and is part of what will make the user experience a welcome one for buyers and sellers, is nearly instant conversion to and from fiat currency.  If moments before I go to the store I can purchase cryptocurrency with fiat currency by pushing a button on my iPhone app, then shop and make purchases in cryptocurrency using my iPhone app and its QR code, and then the retailer converts the cryptocurrency into fiat currency moments after the purchase, the duration is short enough that price volatility will have virtually no impact on either the buyer or seller.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 27, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
There is SWIFT for this purposes and while nobody is going to change anything in this field because it is tested and secured. I think that crypto technologies are too crude to be the core system of interbank payments. Just recollect how often we heard about hackings and vulneriabilities in crypto technologies.
Yes, I'm quite familiar with SWIFT.

It's slow, complicated, and expensive. 

For cross-border payments, SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications) often takes days to settle, requires coordination between up to four banks (Payer's Bank, Payer's Bank's Correspondent Bank, Payee's Bank's Correspondent Bank, and Payee's Bank), and has fees in the tens of USD per payment.

In contrast, crypto payments can move any value of money from anywhere to anywhere in moments for essentially no cost.  Further, anyone can use crypto payments because it doesn't require a bank account.

While SWIFT is trying to address its shortcomings, it's a 50 year-old architecture that is ill-suited to compete with crypto payments.

Here is a short read about comparing ripple with recent improvements from SWIFT: https://www.gtreview.com/news/fintech/ripple-dismisses-marginal-improvement-of-swift-gpi/

There is plenty of opportunity for innovation with crypto payments.  Not so much for SWIFT.

Nice FUD posting though.  Hat's off to you!
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why aren't cryptocurrencies successful as a medium of payment on: June 27, 2018, 04:17:13 PM
Because there are big powers who do not want you me and the people to take control in our hands and so they keep making some kind of fud all the time.
There is no doubt that cryptocurrency threatens huge organizations such as American Express, Visa International, and others in the global payment industry.  I would expect such organizations to engage in a FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) campaigns.

To counterbalance this, there needs to campaigns to alert consumers to cryptocurrency payments including their advantages.  Crypto payments do have a huge advantage in messaging over traditional payments companies because of modern communications such as social media, blogs, and message boards such as bitcointalk.org allow messages to quickly and easily spread to consumers.
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