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41  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup [now in HD!] on: April 11, 2014, 12:11:35 PM
I am using a CX500 without problems. It has a 12v rail at 34a with 2xPCI-E connectors so that seems more than sufficient for one Cube. The benefit is that it is $10 less expensive than the CX600 on Amazon.



Note: The Corsair spec sheet seems to have substantial errors in it, an example is that both the CX500 and CX600 specs are identical--but I don't believe that.
42  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup [now in HD!] on: April 11, 2014, 04:30:52 AM
Would appreciate if people could spend 2 minutes providing feedback on the guides so I can improve them.
Section 1:
"2xPCI-E 6 pin power connectors"
"At least 28A on each 12V rail"
This makes it seem that each PCI-E connector needs to be on a separate rail, each providing 28a. In contrast you have recommended the CX750 has a single 62a rail to supply two cubes. Consider clearing up the power requirements.

Section 2:
You you use the word "Antminer", perhaps change that to "Cube".

Section 5:
Consider a little more information about Android. Perhaps provide a work-around of putting the Android devices on a separate network--turning off WiFi on them generally is not a viable option.

You might mention that the relay is marginal and that there is a fix of bypassing it.

All-in-all a great guid! I like the short URLs on the links.
43  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup [now in HD!] on: April 11, 2014, 03:41:25 AM
I would offer a pic of mine, but it's a bit "discoloured" Smiley
NP, email it to me (email is in my profile) I may be able to fix the color or just post it here.
44  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 11, 2014, 02:58:50 AM
OP updated with high res images, click through for super super high resolution.
Really great images! The one I really wanted to see was the bottom of the mother board, did you take one, if so I would really like to see it, especially the fuse and PCIE connector areas. (Yeah, I'm to lazy to take mine apart.)
45  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 10:08:24 PM
You guys are aware that cubes cost more to run in electricity than they earn in bitcoins right?
Yep! But that is today, I am betting on BTC increasing vastly in value. If it doesn't it will have failed as a currency.

And it is a hobby at the moment, getting into Coin out of curiosity and preparing incase it is successful.
46  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 06:57:17 PM
The cube doesn't seem to communicate with the proxy?  The proxy seems to repeatedly disconnect from btcguild?  I'm not quite sure what's going on.
What are the addresses of your router and the computer you are running the proxy on?

Do you have any Android devices on the WiFi network?

Shouldn't need to supply a router or DNS address if all the IP addresses on the cube are in dotted numeric notation and are on the same network. But doesn't hurt.
47  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 05:14:48 PM
Yeah thats, where I measured on the fuse.......and it wasn't microvolts...it was VDC, (I know when my multi does micros its obvious).....
Scary! In the old days I used to use analog power supplies (series regulated) and always bought the output crow-bar circuit. That basically shorted the output if the voltage exceeded the voltage spec. The power supply either went onto current fold-back, blew a fuse or self-destructed all without damaging the device it was powering. In your case it looks like the power supply failed by shorting input to output--really bad.
48  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
Mine has been hashing at ~38GHz for 27d 14h on a $30 30A 12V power supply from Amazon (see my earlier post for setup).

I keep expecting it to quit but it just takes a licking and keeps on ticking.
I have one of those and was using it on my Cube until another PS went side-ways and had to move things around. Personally I like that one best, simple one voltage, low cost. I see a lot of these being used with 3D printers. It is basically an industrial PS so should hold up well, The form factor leaves something to be desired but then an ATX style with lot's of extra cables and a hassle with the power-up number is also a mess. I would either go with this one or a modular ATX to avoid the extra cables (I cut my extra cables off).
49  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 03:27:11 PM
by probing where the fuse was I mean, the fuse has probing points on the outside (mostly to test whether is good or bad without having to remove it). If you would have heard me when I measured you would have laughed...cause it was utter surprise.
Were you measuring across the fuse as in the photo below? If the fuse was not blown at that time, the cube was running, then I would suspect the digital multimeter auto-ranged to mili-volts. 50mv-60mv or 100mv would not be unreasonable.

I just measured mine and found 20mv, I found a spec on these kinds of fuses that indicate 60mv for 30a is to be expected Even at 100mv at 30a the heat generated would be 3w, that is enough to make it feel warm to hot. In my case it would be 20mv at 30a: 0.6w and the heat seems higher than that.

The outside event is the connector, it's contract resistance with the fuse and how well it is soldered to the circuit board. One good way to check this is to measure the voltage drop on the fuse and the voltage drop measured on the circuit board (yeah, running the Cube out of the enclosure). Any substantial discrepancy would point to a poor fuse connector connection.



For some good background information on fuses and wire sizing see: Littlefuse

For information specifically on Cure ATC Blade Fuses see: Bussmann

Suggestion: If you have a question about the fuse replace it with a good brand automotive fuse. Littlefuse and Bussmann are long established top end fuses.
50  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 01:35:13 PM
I was measuring my Voltage with a digital multimeter at the fuse....was being curious as to how much voltage was running through the fused system.
What were the voltmeter probes touching, "at the fuse" is rather vague?

A high reading between negative and positive on the cube would indicate a power supply failure and that power supply should be trash-canned. A Power supply should never put out a voltage higher than it's rated output, if it does it has failed badly and you would be lucky the fuse saved the Cube.
51  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Was moving my cube to a new home tonight, after about a 2 week run period I was going to move it in with the rest of my mining equipment, while moving it I noticed some discoloration of wiring near the PCI-E plug, inspected closer... found some melted spots with bare wires....IDK what caused it

What probably caused the heat was poor contact of the PCI-E connectors. There is general problem splitting a high current between multiple connector pins and is generally avoided in good designs. The connection resistance (there is always some small amount) is not the same for all the pins so some have to carry more current to make up for the pins with higher resistance. In the case of the cubes the current is split between six pins for the positive and six for the negative, and molex connectors are hardly the best, they are used because they are cheap. Can you post a photo of the burned wires and connector?

Also before I did shut everything off, I found that my cube was at max trying to pull over 100 VDC, at min pulling around 55-59 VDC
Some explanation of what and how you were measuring would help here because the load really can't increase the voltage. If the voltage was above 12v to 13v that was a power supply fault, not the cube.

 Tomorrow I am going to solder in a new PCIE plug...I just have to work through a morass of wires to find the right ones to replace with a thicker guage wire that can stand a bit higher temps if necessary
The high currents are what caused the wires to heat up and that is an effect not the cause. The cause is probably a bad connector which was the cause of the heat. A photo of the damaged wire and connector(s) would be really great.
52  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 11:58:57 AM
It looks like a poor contact on the fuse in the fuse housing may have been causing this.... Crimped it tighter and will monitor..
I was wondering about that. From the reports of "melting fuses" it would seem that the fuse connection might be the culprit adding resistance that would cause excessive heat. The actual fuse metal should melt at a reasonable temperature. They generally protect against sudden high surges from the thing they are protecting and because of the short duration should just melt the metal fast.

I just checked the temperature of the fuse in my Cube, it is to hot to keep my finger on for more than about two seconds, not sure if that is normal, can some otherreaders also check their fuse temperature and report their findings?

Can you or anyone upload a photo of the melted fuse?
53  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 10, 2014, 03:55:07 AM
One of my Cubes decided to melt it's fuse and damaged the Start relay in the process...
Are you planning to fix the cube? Easy enough, jump the start relay and add a new fuse. Of course there may be a bigger problem that caused the fuse to "blow".

Or are you thinking of something else?
54  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 09, 2014, 10:59:52 PM
Thats what I always thought, but the amazon page lists it as having 4. Could be a new revision.
Yep! Corsair does not make it easy to get at the specs.
55  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 09, 2014, 10:48:50 PM
Just go with 3x 750s it will save you so much time.
Looks great power-wise: Single rail 12v @ 62a but only two PCI-E connectors.

Specs at: http://www.corsair.com/~/media/Corsair/download-files/manuals/corsair-psu-spec-table-091813.pdf (page down toward the bottom).

Might look at one of these that have four PCI-E connectors: CX750M, AX750, RM750, TX750M.
56  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 09, 2014, 02:31:48 AM
The reason they said automotive, is because the fuses are the blade type typically used for automotive electrical systems.  They are not specifically automotive, but that is where they are used the most....
Okay, that makes sense to me. Of course it does, I have them in my car. I was under the impression that there was some little twist or a special kind of them. Maybe ones that go to 11?
Fuses: Actually they kind of do go to 11. Consider the fuses/circuit breakers in a typical US house are 15a, the Cube fuse is 30a, twice that. Automotive fuses are designed for high currents at low voltages, exactly what the cube needs. Additionally the connector the fuse plugs into is small, cheap and well tested in automotive usage.

Wire: As long as the coper does not melt the limiting factor is the insulation and the max temperature it can sustain. Many wires in close proximity such as in a cable or conduit reduces the dissipation of heat and the allowable current must be reduced. Warm wires do mean voltage loss but not necessarily a hazard. Personally I would up-size the wire gage if possible such that there was very little heating of the wires.
57  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 07, 2014, 03:55:18 PM
but the plug that I have running of 2 4 pin molex those wires are nice and cool

What does "2 4 pin molex" mean? The cube has two 6-pin power connectors. Each should have six wires.

which leads me to believe that the stock fuse was the cause of my issues, It was forcing more current draw due to the resistance of the metal that was used in it....hence the hotter wires...
No. The higher the resistance the lower the current. E=IR or transposed: I=E/R where I=current, E=voltage, R=resistance.

There are two main reasons a fuse will "blow".

1. The current is above the fuses limit, that is what fuses are designed to prevent. That would mean in this case that the Cube was drawing to much current, greater than 30a, and the fuse protected the Cube and/or power supply.

2. The fuse was defective.
58  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 05, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
Really short version:  The more you can isolate these on the network the happier they'll be.

Short version:  There might actually be something to that "get the Androids off the network".  Running for 2 days now at above full rated speeds, just in time for the Slush pool to have a pretty good run of luck.  I'm currently showing 106GH/s on the pool - my theoretical maximum for 2 at 38 and one at 30.

Longer version:  I didn't think the Android issue would apply to me, as I don't use the wireless access point as my router, and the cubes and the wireless access point (and thus the Android machines) are on different network switches.
The issue with Android is using IP addresses after the DHCP lease expires, not traffic. See ”DHCP client ignores lease time”: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11236.

So, a good solution is to put the Android devices on a separate logical network. If the primary network is 192.168.1.x then create a second network such as 192.168.2.x (both with a net mask of 255.255.255.0). Unfortunately that means two routers.

Is this what you did with the second router?
59  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive ASICMiner Cube Setup on: April 05, 2014, 02:04:22 AM
2) Yes, physically reverse the fan to reverse airflow direction. I'll clarify this.
Do you have any numbers on the hash rate increase?
60  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: CoiningSolutions.com Neptune Poll on: April 04, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
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