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(I have PM'ed you with info)
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I would like to see a affiliate system  We currently offer 10% commission on the house edge. To get your referral link simply sign up to Rocketpot then go to Menu -> Affiliate Link: https://rocketpot.io/play/affiliate
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We might experience some downtime because of performing updates and adding new features. We will keep you updated.
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I personally deposited after receiving the email. Deposited 4mbtc and only 4mbtc was deposited to my account. Also messaged the owner about it and nothing was ever credited.
While the offer has been verified as legit, the owner of the website has failed to credit me when told about it twice.
Not trying to say hes a fraud or anything, maybe got busy and forgot.
I got exactly the same experience Yahoo. After the owner confirmed me that the offer is legit, I deposited 2,07 mbtc and replied to the email message as requested, but until now only my own 2,07 mbtc deposit has been credited. No bonus yet. I hope this is just a delay problem, because if they will not credit the promised bonus they will simply destroy their reputation instead of gaining a few more players. Your bonus has been credited now, sorry about the delay!
I personally deposited after receiving the email. Deposited 4mbtc and only 4mbtc was deposited to my account. Also messaged the owner about it and nothing was ever credited.
While the offer has been verified as legit, the owner of the website has failed to credit me when told about it twice.
Not trying to say hes a fraud or anything, maybe got busy and forgot.
Hello, I couldn't find any email from you about this but I have credit both 2mBTC bonuses for you now. Sorry about the delay. |
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This morning we will deploy new updates so we expect about an hour of downtime. When the rocket loses communication with Earth, don't panic. We will just be in maintenance mode and add exciting stuff to the site!
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I received an email with subject: "Claim your 2mBTC welcome bonus!" The text is "Hello cent21, Your account has been gifted a deposit match of 2mBTC! Deposit at least 2mBTC (~$20) and we'll give you an extra 2mBTC for free! Once you have made the deposit, please respond to this email to let us know and we'll credit the extra balance to your account. Thanks again for boarding the Rocket! We're excited to have you join us and start your journey. We're here to ensure you have the best Rocketpot experience. To get in touch, just send an email to crew@rocketpot.io" I just want to know if the promotion in this email is real or it's a scam attempt. Can someone from rocketpot officially confirm or deny the genuineness of this email? Thank you. I am registered with rocketpot , but I haven't received any e-mail like this its either they send it out randomly or this is a fishing e-mail from a third party there was an incident a few days ago where one of the casinos sent out scam emails because their e-mail provider was compromised could be something similar , I don't remember coinrocket offering deposit bonuses besides even if the offer is legit there must be a 30-40x wagering requirement that comes with it , so you would have to wager 40*0.004=0.16 btc before you can withdraw the money I received the same email but I got it on my spam folder. Something different with the other emails that I got during registration and withdrawal verification because the support email address on this offer is "crew@rocketpot.io" while the address they use for registration and withdrawal verification is "support@rocketpot.io"The other fishy thing on the email is about the opening greeting on the email. Unlike above user who get a greeting with his username "Hello cent21", I got strange username which is not my username as I got "hello fffrffwwwwwww" http://prntscr.com/pg9e1lLets wait for official representative from rocketpot to clarify about this email. The email offer is legit. There's currently no wagering requirement coming with it. |
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if innovation continues, in a few months and maybe years, I'm sure this will be one of the gambling sites with the most daily players.
thats the plan!  |
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It is usual thing in this forum where there are many sites stop the campaign after few weeks only. The possible reason is that the campaign does not work as expected so they stop it because it is not worth the money the spend on the campaign. Most people in this forum suggest gambling sites to have signature campaign as the best marketing strategy but it wont be effective if there is no other attractive things offered by the site.
well so many campaigns i hadn't seen yet that were stopped after only 3 weeks. but i think the success of additional revenues or people who gambled the signature rewards directly were not big/high enough but maybe we'll get an official statement about it. if not, but not further tragic... i liked the campaign + website  We experimented with the signature campaign but decided not to continue. Might resume soon though. Will take this opportunity to thank @yahoo62278 for the fine sig management, recommended |
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The wheel spin result is provably fair in the sense that the wheel spin and player selection is determined by bits from a hash that we could not have chosen (just like as any crash game that uses a chain of hashes that is salted by a random event like Bustabit or any Bustabit clone). We have been working on a handy verifier for the selection of who spun the jackpot wheel. It is based on multiple random factors like bet size, usernames participating in the round, and bits from the round hash. Rounds can be verified here: https://jsfiddle.net/kyawgjmv/embedded/resultExcept that's not what provably fair means. You can directly control who wins the jackpot, if you have a house-player. And there's absolutely zero way for people to have any idea if you're doing it or not. That's not bad per se, and doesn't mean you're cheating. But it means it's not provably fair. Full stop. Any attempt to market is as provably fair is dishonest. You are right in the sense that it is technically possible to manipulate who wins the Jackpot, and for this reason we have clarified our specifications of the system on https://rocketpot.io/provably-fair/. On this URL, we make it clear that the outcomes can be verified with the given player list: “Given the player list (that consists of player names and their bets) and round hash, anyone can verify the player selection result.”. More generally - it is indeed very hard to completely prove the fairness since the house/server can influence which wagers get processed or not. Winning wagers could get timed out and never processed, or there could be other creative ways for the house to reject or limit winning wagers, even in a simple dice game. a) Make the jackpot provably fair
There's a few ways to do this, one neat way would be run a verifiable-delay-functions on the game player bet list, where each client also sends a randomized seed with their bet. Then if the game goes over XXX you use that result to calculate the jackpot winner.
That would also hit pretty much the same problem we started with, just making it a matter of processing power cost to manipulate the player list. Once the jackpot is big enough, it would be profitable to spend computing power and resources to Brute Force VDF as the house could add its house player’s seed. Also, it would introduce a player list trust issue since the player list would have to be posted to a trusted 3rd party (like a blockchain) before the round starts. We’ve also considered using a delayed source of random, such as a block hash from Ethereum (averages less than 30 sec), using the first occurrence since the round started. But that also hits player’s list trust and doesn’t remove the possibility of a house player to just bet high in rounds with high multiplier (the jackpot wheel will spin). b) Just let everyone know "our multipliers are provably fair but our jackpots aren't! it's just a bonus"
The multipliers are mathematically proven to be fair. We are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone that wants to wager on them is able to do so in a fair way (internet timeouts, house players that can in theory manipulate the auto cashout). However, this seems to be the case for all the other provably fair multiplier games with bankroll and profit limits. And the jackpots have a theoretically similar problem: The wheel spin stop is mathematically proven to be fair, but we are currently unable to prove mathematically that anyone who wants to wager on it is able to do so at all, lest in a fair way. I hope this clarifies it somewhat. Please note it was not our intention to be misleading and we are working on making the game as ‘provably fair’ as possible. I’d like to add that we’ve had some players win some fairly big jackpots already and have paid them out, user Bsky being one of them (he posted in this earlier). We’re also working on a page that will be listing all the biggest jackpot wins and the players who won them (with a link to the round). |
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I still cannot understand why a new gaming website with no provable track record would not be a registered LLC or other incorporation which would allow game players to at least know to try to hold to account in the event any scam or theft ever took place. Existing sites with years upon years of history and excellent customer services are exceptions but any new website trying to muscle in or that territory should surely cover all angles to bring in new users.
This is in progress and we expect to be ready early next week. |
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The Jackpots actually are provably fair
C'mon. It's obviously and demonstrably not. Looking at your code, you've used the bustabit method for calculating game outcomes (good!), but then misapplied the same technique to pick a "jpPlayerRandom". This makes no sense, because you can see it in advance and can control the players who are betting. The wheel spin result is provably fair in the sense that the wheel spin and player selection is determined by bits from a hash that we could not have chosen (just like as any crash game that uses a chain of hashes that is salted by a random event like Bustabit or any Bustabit clone). We have been working on a handy verifier for the selection of who spun the jackpot wheel. It is based on multiple random factors like bet size, usernames participating in the round, and bits from the round hash. Rounds can be verified here: https://jsfiddle.net/kyawgjmv/embedded/resultThe litmus test for if something is provably fair, is if you could cheat without players being able to detect it. In this case it'd be very simple to have a house player who wins 100.00% of all bets, and no one would be able to tell if it was legitimate or not.
Any crash game that limits max profits per round has the same issue, even without jackpot. If the house can predict multipliers in advance, they can cheat without getting noticed by reducing the player’s EV. Auto cashout limits the round win to a percentage of the bankroll, so if a round that will go high is coming up, the house can just place big bot bets on this round, forcing earlier cashout for the real players. Even though there is a theoretical possibility for the operator to see game results in advance (like in any other crash game), we've removed such possibility technically. The seed used to generate the hashes chain is multi-part (n out of n, where n is >= 2). And there is no access to the server storing the generated hashes chain either (any software updates are done the other way around, by pulling changes by the server). Even if the house knows multipliers, there is still no guaranteed way to cheat, as higher bet chance is limited (win chance is normalized by bet amount) and users sorted before draw. So as long as players can freely join the rounds that win jackpot, the house can only increase own win chances, but not guarantee the win). In addition to that, it is up to the bankrollers to benefit from this scenario since the house would essentially become a high-roller FWIW I think there's nothing wrong with having jackpots that are not provably fair, as it's quite difficult to come up with new robust provably fair schemes -- but it's highly unethical to represent something as provably fair that isn't.
Agreed. In theory, many things could make the game unfair, like ill intentioned connection issues, bankroll limitations or manipulation, manipulated forced cashouts and so on. We will continue to work to be as open as possible and will keep improving our system, the explanation of the system and the handy round result verifier. |
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good morning, currently we have the same problems as after week 1. according to blockexplorer the amounts are already transferred but the website does not show any credit. just for info  Everyone has been properly credited now. Sorry about the delay. |
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We're about to put a number updates live. The downtime will hopefully only last a few minutes. Updates are done, all systems are go! |
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I assume there is three groups : The investors, The players and The operator. Correct When a jackpot is won there is a new one which have a minimal value (like 0.5btc for the mega jackpot) in this case where these 0.5btc come from? The players couldnt wager to "build this jackpot" so does it come from the operator pocket? Yes it comes from the operator pocket, not from the bankroll. Since the house edge is 1% and 1.5% of the wagered amount is added up to the jackpots.
There is 97.5% of the wagered amount given back to the players (if we doesnt count the jackpot). The HE is 1.5% or less. We have corrected this phrasing in the FAQ on the website. The structure is: 97% goes to normal wins, 3*0.5% goes to JPs, and the rest goes to JP seeds + fixed prizes. So, the higher the average bet is, the closer is HE to 1.5%. But with this info i think that the probability of hitting 2x or more is 48.75% and the probability of hitting 1.01x or more is 96.53% can you confirm that?
By the way i think that knowing the probability of hitting a number which would be a nice feature. x1.01: 0.97/1.01 = 96.04% x2.00: 0.97/2 = 48.50% I see on the site that investors won 6.84btc since the openning of the site.
I am curious about how much was won/lost by the players and how much was won/lost by the operator. Would it be possible to know that?
The investor’s bankroll was increased with this amount. A good chunk of it was wagers that used jackpot wins and in this sense it was lost by the operator. The operator then got commission from this increased bankroll. Is the webiste sustainable for the operator even if the bets per round are low?
No, the reseeding of the jackpots make the operators run at a loss as long as bets are very small. |
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This is post #7. I confirm the topic doesn't show any deleted posts yet (except maybe by moderators). If you move (bottom-left) the thread to a board that doesn't allow self-moderation (Archival for instance) and move it back to Gambling right after that, it will no longer be self-moderated. Here's OP's unedited post scraped 7 seconds after posting: http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5224/52246534.html ( archived). Thanks a lot LoyceV for the archiving. We followed your suggestion of moving the thread to Archival and then back to Gambling in order to remove the self moderation and the self moderation is now removed! |
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You can also add faucet for those who want to try your site. Since there are a lot of online casinos that offer crash game, it would be hard at first to get your players. So if you can give them few satoshis to play and be satisfied with their experience, they might be convinced in depositing more satoshis and play your crash game.
I agree with you! Having faucet or free satoshis every time the users log in will help them to boost their gambling platform. Many online casinos that are offering games with free sats. In fact, I also gained bitcoin from playing them and keeping the daily log in. By that, users can be satisfied to play using their platform and they will become more confident on using rocketpot. I don't think that is necessary since they have jackpot system on their casino which makes them unique all crash site i've seen has no jackpot system even stake doesn't get that feature, i think that's enough for casino to lure their customers since it's new for crash games.Yes faucets could lure new players but this could lead to an abuse In fact, bustabit has faucet before but they decided to remove because of faucet abusers. someone won a mega jackpot https://rocketpot.io/play/round/57575/ congratulations qwerty for winning 1 btc and others for winning 0.038btc!!! edit: another mega jackpot has activated: https://rocketpot.io/play/round/57771/ voodoo ended up winning 100mbtc = 0.1btc damn this site has huge amount of bankroll Too bad the jackpot is not provably fair, although the site says that it cant be manipulated but there is no guarantees that every spin on the jackpot wheel is fair. Jackpot is not something unique in this gambling world but indeed rocketpot is the one and maybe the first crash game with jackpot but it is not enough to lure customers. Just take a look at the fact that all players here are aiming for jackpot only because all of them are using the lowest payout only on every bet they make. Imagine if there is no jackpot here? I think no one will play here because of the minimum bet amount which is too high. The Jackpots actually are provably fair. The code on https://rocketpot.io/provably-fair/ explains which bits are used to create the random number for picking which player spins the wheel and which bits are used for the random number to produce the jackpot wheel position. We're making better documentation to describe the player selection and wheel position. We will post it here in the forum and add to the texts on the Rocketpot website ASAP. p.s. provide the fairness check of the jackpot rolls, please to silence the critics
the same way you did with the games , they are verifiably fair all right
Thy will be done. |
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yes it is exactly the same with me too. so it looks like a general problem! i already sent several details by mail to support yesterday. i'll let you know if there's a solution or new findings here We're looking into the issue, thanks for reporting! It seems fine for most users though Thank you, now registration form can be used, I myself use chrome (windows) no significant problems and everything is smooth. Likewise with chrome (iphone) everything has been smooth, maybe for now it's still a little less in terms of website speed, feels slow on my iphone. the improved mobile version is coming very soon! |
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the registration only worked yesterday via iphone. in the browser (firefox and IE) the click on register didn't work. now i'd like to use the "forgotten password" to log in to the pc. the password from yesterday (iphone) doesn't remember anymore and it's also not stored there. the click on "forgotten password" unfortunately only shows the following message after entering the mail address: "Request has been terminated Possible causes: the network is offline, Origin is not allowed by Access-Control-Allow-Origin, the page is being unloaded, etc.".
  Yesterday I experienced this too, I'm very sure the developer is working very hard to solve this bug, be patient and contact their support only yes it is exactly the same with me too. so it looks like a general problem! i already sent several details by mail to support yesterday. i'll let you know if there's a solution or new findings here We're looking into the issue, thanks for reporting! It seems fine for most users though |
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 funny message in the chat, one of our players (Bsky) won a free car playing Rocketpot it was the Major jackpot |
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