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41  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question about paper wallet from new guy on: May 13, 2014, 05:30:27 PM
Don't spend it, the purpose is to keep it offline and by spending it you're putting your private key out there.  I wouldn't re-use a paper wallet either, just make another one.
42  Economy / Economics / Re: Beginner Tips on Investing in Bitcoin? on: May 13, 2014, 12:08:51 AM
Tips:
  Don't invest more than you can afford to lose.
  Don't take investing advice from most people on the internet.
  Don't store your coins for long in a place where you don't control the keys.

Also, be sure to analyze market data for any coin that you're interested in investing in.  http://www.cryptocoinstats.com/ is a good place to start since it has lots of price analysis and graphs to help identify trends.

All good tips.  I doubt the OP will listen though, most people are here to get rich quick and he thinks everyone is making $10k a month and the train is passing him by. 
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 09, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
Stop moaning about the distribution and FOCUS on NOW and the TECHNOLOGY, which is about to revolutionize the digital world!!

Stupid FUD'sters, you'll never get rid of them Smiley

Just like haters haha

Buy FUD'sters aren't haters, deep inside they love the coin Cheesy

You can love the tech and still hate the distribution.  The tech is easily copyable, it's not like Nxt has any sort of significant market share or user base yet.  Right now I see the tech as interesting but the whole IPO process is really dodgy especially since the guy who created it has run off.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 07, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
Thanks!  Also I understand forging helps make the network stronger.  But can people with small amounts of nxt like <50000 be able to get something from it? 


If by get something you mean Nxt, then no.  Your chances of forging a block are a fraction of a percent and even if you hit the jackpot, it's likely you'll forge a block with nothing in it. 

Maybe if the guy with a lot of Nxt starts (or joins) a pool and doesn't take a share you'll get something out of it but that would really be the only way.
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investigation Complete of Instamines and Fastmines for almost every top alt coin on: May 07, 2014, 07:25:51 PM
How do you judge value? Why would Nxt price increase so much and why hasn't the debilitating dump occured after such a large percentage increase?

Because it is a highly illiquid market.  You won't find enough buyers at that price to "dump" the coins on.  These initial 70 are sitting on a mountain of coins that on paper, are worth a tremendous amount, but it's only on paper.  Try to flood the market with all those coins and lets see what price they actually get.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 06, 2014, 07:43:36 PM
Well, first life isn't fair.  The sooner you learn that the faster you'll succeed.  PoS or PoW, doesn't really matter, those that put in the most will get the most out.  You're either spending $$$ on mining equipment or the actual crypto.

As for a solution, band together and lease out your Nxt.  I haven't tested it yet (anyone got a good pool?) but I like the concept.

how it works the nxt lease?

You lease out your Nxt to someone for a stated period of time (expressed in blocks).  You still have full control of your Nxt but you relinquish your forging power to the pool.  The combined amount gives you greater success of forging a block and the reward is then divided amongst the group by your % contributed.

Each pool would set up their own rules like any fees and such so what I'm saying is just a broad overview from my understanding.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 06, 2014, 07:01:21 PM
Well, first life isn't fair.  The sooner you learn that the faster you'll succeed.  PoS or PoW, doesn't really matter, those that put in the most will get the most out.  You're either spending $$$ on mining equipment or the actual crypto.

As for a solution, band together and lease out your Nxt.  I haven't tested it yet (anyone got a good pool?) but I like the concept.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 05, 2014, 06:56:43 PM
You can start forging when you reach 1440 confirmations.  Technically with confirmations every minute you should hit that in 24 hours but I think confirmations aren't quite that fast so it may be a little longer than that.  I'm hearing 1.5-2 days.  So long as you're connected to the server you will be forging.

You do not need to be connected to any server. If the server stores your private key, it can forge until the end of the universe.

Thanks for the correction.  I'm also thinking the timeframe is closer to 2 days to hit 1440.  It's been almost 2 days and I haven't hit 1440 yet.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 05, 2014, 07:01:15 AM
Hi all, i'm a long time miner (Go DRK!) but new to NXT.  So i've installed the "one click install" wallet on my Windows 7 PC and all seems to be OK.

I've got 100 (less a couple for fee and test transaction) NXT in there, the wallet has been running for less than a day.

How long until i start forging? I think i read i need to keep it open for atleast 24 hours?  On my Dashboard screen, when i click "forging" it says my net account balance is 0.  yet I have 97 NXT?
 
Is there anything I need to do now?

Once I start forging, if i reboot my PC for example, will i loose the 'forging' status when i re-launch my wallet? 

Thanks,
Ili

If anyone feeling generous pls help me build my NXT account: 13132972958635556559

ta!

You can start forging when you reach 1440 confirmations.  Technically with confirmations every minute you should hit that in 24 hours but I think confirmations aren't quite that fast so it may be a little longer than that.  I'm hearing 1.5-2 days.  So long as you're connected to the server you will be forging.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 04, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
Thank you for your comment, zorke.
I do have more than what you see in that account, but I've bought at market prices, which were often a lot higher than now. This is part of my retirement fund, so I have to be careful with it. But I do think it's important to contribute in some way. I can't write code, so donating to some members who seem like they can contribute to the community is the best I can do right now.

I suspect that some members of the community might not like such giveaways, since they, for the most part, have also had to buy NXT on the market. Giving away something that has value can sometimes undermine that value. So we should be careful with what and how much we give away and why. I was just getting impatient, I guess, and wanted to light a few fires to get something going and to feel like I was contributing.

You're doing things the right way.  I think the fallacy that some use is trying to compare a 2nd generation crypto to Bitcoin.  You simply can't do that because Bitcoin has a 5 year headstart.  When you're first to market you can get away with a lot of stuff that you cannot when you're trying to build upon that core infrastructure.  All these people using "Satoshi did this" or "early adopters own x" is just spinning their wheels.  You cannot be late to the game and expect to be afforded the same luxury as something that broke ground.

The entire goal right now is to entice people to use Nxt.  And you do that by giving them the opportunity to test it.  Luckily people like you and Damelon get that. 
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 04, 2014, 06:26:43 PM
This is why the faucet is so ridiculous and I'm glad that it's being looked at.
I was looking at the faucet - there was a guy who used it 10x to register 30 aliases... There was a guy who used it 10x every day to collect some 400 Nxt. In past, threre was a giveaway of 500 Nxt on forums. What happened? One guy created 81 forum and nxt accounts and collected 41.000 Nxt into 1 single account after he gathered 80x500 from the giveaway

Exactly. Faucets don't exist to make people rich, but to send them some coins to play with. I'm confused that Hero fucking Member doesn't understand basics.

Not a completely valid point.
A faucet doesn't exist to make people rich, agreed.
A faucet exists to enable people to test the coin or check it out.

The current faucet does not meet that basic criterium. Being able to do 2 transactions of 1 Nxt is not testing. Worse: it's frustrating and to mé would feel like that someone is trying to sucker me into buying that coin to "enjoy testing it".

Now I knów that we are not trying to do that, but perception is very important, especially in a paranoid field like the crypto community.

So: we're going to try to fix it. Smiley That is álso an important part of the crypto world, and one that I love.

Also: the new faucet system will be less easily drained by sockpuppets, if we do it right. This is because it's based on handing out codes to people, which requires a human factor. That takes work, sure, but the returns in the way of trust and people actually being able to work with Nxt in my view are more than worth it Smiley

Thank you.  I was going to write something along these lines but you saved me the time.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 04, 2014, 09:36:14 AM
I've only looked into NXT for a short period but as I see it, the 75 initial "shareholders" are being way too stingy.

What's your problem with 73 initial stakeholders? They didn't dump at 10 satoshi, they didn't dump at 100 satoshi, at 1000 satoshi, at 5000 satoshi. They didn't even dump at 16 000 satoshi. They proved themselfs to be super reasonable holders. Some of them sold all their stakes through the trading thread to keep the price high. So if you're afraid that initial stakeholders might dump all coins and ruin price then don't, because they won't. Bitcoin and regular money like Dollar have way worse distribution, so if you don't like it, maybe you don't want to live on this planet anymore? If you're just greedy envious person and can't live with understanding that some people made good profit, it's your personal mental problem that has nothing to do with Nxt. Early Bictoin adopters become millioners last year. Can you live with that? Maybe you should just forget about cryptocurrencies if it hurts you so much.

You miss my point entirely but if you haven't gotten it by now I'm not going to waste the effort to try to explain it to you.  Can I live with "Bictoin" adopters becoming "millioners" last year?  Look at how long I've been around.  Yeah, I think I can live with that pal.
53  Economy / Collectibles / Re: (NEW WORKS) portraits, commissions, and original paintings by Maureen Gubia on: May 04, 2014, 07:14:03 AM
It appears that the artist does not sign her work, why is that?
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does no one else think Doge is a great 48-72 hour trade on: May 04, 2014, 07:07:02 AM
I mean, shouldn't we see a pop on the NASCAR race?  I'm not talking about a double here or anything, but doesn't 5-10% make sense?

Buy on the rumor, sell on the news.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 04, 2014, 06:38:54 AM
I think I understand your point about the 73 guys sitting on their hands, but I don't agree, as those guys didn't start a company, they invested in an IPO, and so the NXT they own is their property. NXT is more like a  'share' than a currency, and who gives away shares to attract more shareholders.

I think therein lies the catch-22.  It's a Proof of Stake system, so you want to hold but holding does nothing to gain more adopters (which is really what you need otherwise you're just 70 guys holding worthless code).  I don't see it as shares in a company, shareholders derive value from their equity interest in the performing assets of a company.  Nxt is the performing asset.  

This is why I used Ripple as an example, whether you want to call it a pre-mine or not, that's just semantics because that's just what it is.  You have a small amount of stakeholders who hold the lion's share of Nxt with the intent of having the Nxt appreciate in value.  However, the only way for it to appreciate in value is for others to adopt it and the only way for others to adopt it is to relinquish part of your share.  Nxt isn't created out of the air, where does it come from?  The stakeholders.

You can assign any value you want to Nxt but without people there's no liquidity.  There's no market.

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The one guy who started NXT has vanished, so each of those 73 people can do what they like, and I think they're doing pretty well. Giving 1000 NXT coins to 1000 guys would achieve very little, but give 1 Million coins to one talented guy and maybe he'll turn NXT into the decentralised Google of money. That is smarter, and I bet that's what SOME of them are doing. How else can you explain all the activity.

That's probably step 1, you compensate people who can help with the infrastructure.  However, as I mentioned time is not on the side of alt-currencies.  Time is of the essence so you're probably better off paying developers and spreading out Nxt to new users so that they can test it, tell their friends about it, find bugs, etc.  So you give out a million coins.  There's still 999 million left.  This is why the faucet is so ridiculous and I'm glad that it's being looked at.  They should be giving it away by the bucket full right now because a million users will do a hell of a lot more than holding onto that .1%.

As for the activity, it's totally meaningless.  A stakeholder can easily set up multiple accounts and transfer Nxt to themselves giving the appearance of activity when in actuality there is none.  
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 04, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
I've only looked into NXT for a short period but as I see it, the 75 initial "shareholders" are being way too stingy.  If you want adoption, you need to get coin out reasonably easily, a fair amount (not some piddly 2-4 NXT), and quickly.  


NXT are so cheap it's not funny. One of the main contenders to bitcoin - market cap of 5.5 billion - has a market cap of 22 MILLION).

Do the math. If NXT got to a market cap of 5 billion, each NXT would be worth $5 USD, and they cost about 2 cents today.

I'm a new comer to crypto, and maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not waiting for a freebie give away to get 500 NXT.

I'm spending $1000 USD and buying 50K NXT. If NXT is as good as what I've been reading lately that $1000 investment might be worth 250k USD (assuming NXT marketcap similar to bitcoin) sometime soon. That's a good bet in my mind.

I don't want to miss this one, and I'm not expecting a handout any time soon, but I can buy NXT for 2 cents on bter or dgex right now.

The 75 initial stakeholders might be stingy but that doesn't stop NXT being a good bet right now.

This is the basic thought process of every newbie that comes in here.  I missed the train so I'm going to jump on <inset alt-currency here> and get rich.  The problem is that all of these alt-currencies are significantly behind Bitcoin in terms of adoption, infrastructure, development, just about everything.  That's not to say someone can't build a better mousetrap or that Nxt can't compliment or replace Bitcoin, but your valuation has no basis in reality.  The reality is all of these alts face significant headwinds because they are far behind in the game.

My point was that when you're playing catchup, sitting on your hands holding your coin isn't really the smartest move, IMO.  You get it out there quickly and to as many people as you can.  Like I said, it's their money and their prerogative.  And it's your money so feel free to spend as you wish.  Me personally I don't really feel like giving my personal information to some company in Panama that I've never heard of.  To each their own.

I just want to test the system and do my own due diligence, and now thanks to sparta, I have that opportunity.  The Nxt received will be repaid or paid forward.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 03, 2014, 11:36:50 PM
Hello, CurbsideProphet

I understand your hesitation and appreciate your criticisms, though I don't quite agree with all of them.

I want you to take a test drive. Have you set up one of the clients? When you do, create an account and post your Nxt address, and I'll send you 500 NXT to play with. 

I'm not an original stakeholder, but I have a few to share.

Much appreciated.  I have an account, the number is:  17353422140744959965

Once I'm able to get a feel for the software and the forging process, I'll return them to you.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 03, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
And please don't hold ripple up as some kind of good example. They made 100 Billion of them and the foundation still controls like 90% of them. Nxt distribution gets better every day.

Ripple I feel is a failed experiment but I still think they gave away enough to at least let early users test the system.  If you can point me to where Nxt distribution is "getting better" every day, I'd be glad to see it. 

I hope you don't think stakeholders = Nxt.

It is a common mistake. I will not deny this is a problem, although less of one than it used to be.

However, there is NO way to force people to sell, other than asking and pushing.

For me personally, that is something I have no control over, so I don't spend my energy on it anymore. They either sell, or don't. There are also a few bigger stakeholders who DO sell and spend Nxt on project and donate, and these are the good guys. I'd rather focus on those.

As to the faucet: good news! A small group is working on this. I completely agree that the original faucet gives out non-helpful amounts (for exactly the same reason you gave: 2 possible transactions of 1 Nxt). So we're working on a system that will give out a non-trivial amount, to allow people to use or sell it. Whatever they want.

I hope that helps somewhat Smiley

No, I see the differentiation between stakeholders and Nxt and you're quite correct in that it's their prerogative whether to give away or not.  I just think it's in their best interest (and Nxt) that they do so.  When you're in high competition, as all alt-coins are, the more users you can gain the better.  You're not going to gain very many users by tightly clutching your Nxt.

I'm glad you see the shortcomings of the faucet and are working on a solution.  This is a good step in the right direction. 
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Overstock.com CEO interested in NXT asset exchange! on: May 03, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
First of all we need more volume and transactions for NXT.

This coins should be used somewhere

Exactly.  But this won't happen unless the 70+ initial investors open up their purse. 
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: May 03, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
And please don't hold ripple up as some kind of good example. They made 100 Billion of them and the foundation still controls like 90% of them. Nxt distribution gets better every day.

Ripple I feel is a failed experiment but I still think they gave away enough to at least let early users test the system.  If you can point me to where Nxt distribution is "getting better" every day, I'd be glad to see it. 
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