The more I think about this decentralised governance in the way initially suggested is a big mistake.

Having individuals voting on other individuals is asking for trouble.

What is better is a set of objective standards or rules being thrashed out that are optimal for the forum.
This is the democratic or decentralized part. Although really even that is not essential a single entity could devise the entire thing.
The only important thing being it is as provably fair to all members as possible whilst being optimal to the goals of the forum.

Decentralization is an obsession here so we try to apply it to everything.
I have been rethinking this lately.
I mean it's simply not sensible for members to vote specifically on other members. it is impossible to prevent personal bias either for that individual or for another members opinion of that individual. It works via contagion it need not be direct.

The decentralized part needs to be directed towards a set of parameters or rules.
Voting is a certain member should have certain action taken against him or her or it is not sensible.

If the parameters don't decide automatically they need to be tightened up.

Whether you implement KYC or not isn't important.

Like i say even the deciding on the rules or parameters it's nice to have everyone involved and you may increase the probability of immediately arriving at the optimal rules to attain the goals of the forum but really one super smet person could actually be responsible for proposing everything. That's if the forum is owned by a single entity that lays out the goals. If not then yes it is going to take a kind of vote to ascertain what the goals are in the first place.


Since we have a single entity controlling and I guess the goal of creating an environment from which the most powerful community which are optimally suited to promulgate the awareness and adoption of bitcoin... then we have a good start.

I mean the forum has done amazing in that regard really but then it was a once in a generation or greater " product" to encourage Intersest and adoption in. So yeah really the forum has done its job already. Bitcoin has reached critical mass now and I don't see anything stopping it. You could say the forum is redundant or even slightly counter productive to that goal since it now provides a launch pad for competing " products ".

Depends on the goal. I guess only satoshi and maybe a handful of people know the goal of both bitcoin and the forum.
Many people have some wild speculations.
I like to believe it was to provide transparency and give everyone a fair chance to easily and immediately see where they stand currently and if they want to join in under those conditions without the goal posts constantly moving to demoralize and crush them continuously on the whim of a tiny tiny tiny minority.
So I'm supporting it anyway. I would still want to join and start even now if I'd only just found out about it.
Who knows.

TL DR = numbers mean nothing. Debate and thrash out the optimal action.

10000000 retards vs 1 genius.  I go with what the genius thinks is best.  Voting means ?

I mean I'm not 100% sure how you identify a real genius because likely to be a real genius you will need to best those that are near geniuses on topics that test them and most of us don't understand. However with most debates certain points will start to be unarguably stronger or won conclusively by one party so you can get some idea who is dominant unless it's super technical. Then you're screwed.

With governance I'm sure the debates can be dumbed down enough we can all contribute to some degree when compiling the transparent,  clear cut rules. The thing about debate is really deciphering when certain points have been conclusively debunked or demonstrated to be suboptimal.

Likely a mathematician could resolve it best but then there goes your democratic or decentralized contribution.
All those wiggles and squiggles ... what is that shit?
I'm gonna learn me some math one day.

The more I think about forums the more I wonder if all this decentralized idealism is needed. The only decentralization you need is debating and reasoning. Just to throw more into the mix that may have been missed. Still the smartest people will process it best.
Optimal transparent rules applied equally = optimal governance if you want good moral and atmosphere. If you don't care about that then its true you could have different rules applied differently to different people and scenarios. I wouldn't agree with that.

Edit - I just notice a couple of posts that covered of what I hacked out  anyway. Still you got another bite at the cherry.

Vod and nullius teaming up together?  Wouldn't want to meet that couple up a dark alley ..... if you were young and wandered off from mom and pop.

Nullius still doesn't care that he is totally derailing this thread with OGs legitimate observations regarding his own mental breakdown at being left with blue balls after debasing himself for 2 scammers,  both of whom spotted he was a sad ugly old pauper that couldn't afford to hire the blind one legged hooker who works the corner near his shack.

Obviously the senile old skank nerdius has also forgotten he creates self moderated threads and deletes anything he doesn't like.

The facts are this

Vod is either lying that OG was audited

Or

He was audited and wasn't found to have pulled a huge BTC like vod keeps lying he has.

Isn't it more probable that vod who claimed ( but then forgot he claimed) he suffered brain death is losing grasp of reality.
I mean there are plenty of instances where vod is spouting provably bogus crap about other members.

I mean nullius you do know vod admitted he was to afraid too exclude or red tag your dream husband lauda the scammer because he knew lauda would abuse the trust system and retaliate and red tag him back.

You have a habit of looking like a total idiot nullius. I mean youre waste time studying all this latin and computer stuff but cant even prevent yourself looking like a full on retard pushing double standards and obviously getting taken in by scamming dudes playing on your obvious vulnerability and insecurities. I've met even young healthy versions of yourself in RL suffering the same delusions.
They mistakenly believe females even smart ones will look past a hideous exterior for some latin and trying to sound all educated and smart.  You are wrong the only reason any female will look past handsome muscled hunks like myself with huge charisma and other appendages...is huge amounts of money. To top it off I have that also and you have welfare cheques.

If lauda was a female and we both walked into a bar ( obviously not together, since I'm not shallow ...but then not one for eviscerating any chance of a female contact due to the obviously force field cock blocking effect of your being in anyway related to my handsome self) I would be leaving with both lauda and Alia for a some hours of pleasure whilst you end up back in your shack on bitcointalk venting bile and venom on other wealthy legends here.

Now either get back on topic and admit vod is either lying about the audit or lying about the scam or both or go back to your dream boyfriends thread and continue to debase yourself there. Lauda is likely cringing and vomiting  or begging for a much longer stretch in maximum security feeling it has had a lucky escape from ghoulish hannibal creepy old perv.

Vod is a liar- already proven elsewhere
Vod has lied here either way or super high probability he has.

I doubt someone having scammed millions would be on a forum repeatedly bringing it up whilst being audited awaiting trial or sentencing.

Let's be serious.

I suspect vod is upset with OG and combined with serious brain damage and a poor diet has convinced himself that he somehow has secret info that OG has been audited and off to jail.

Now let's stay on topic detailing vods lies. You should have created a Ree thread yourself for the purpose to cry about people doing things to you that you do to other people. To add to the impressive portfolio of stupid double standards and hypocrisy you've already accomplished here already.

This is very true. Also the stats I mentioned could very easily be attached to the delete email.
So you would have the reason and the stats giving semi transparency. That would be a great step forward.
You could also have an I'm happy button and an appeal button.

You could be allowed 1 appeal per year renewed upon successful overturn.

This could be a feature for member or above.
Like I say if merit was remotely credible you could really leverage it to cut back on mod work.

You will always need an ultimate arbiter but the cost for taking it that far should be considerable like a 1 month ban or 1 month pay cut for the mod.

It is simple if you are presenting on topic relevant independently verifiable truths they must NEVER be deleted.
The very notion of doing so is scandalous if you want to claim free speech exists.

Yes, irrelevant, spurious and lacking strong corroboration,  mindless groundless abuse and posting conclusively debunked information as true should be deleted how hard can it be?

I mean, yes being a mod must be pretty tough at times. This long term would help mods.


1. You will not get repeat offenders due to lack of understanding
2. You will not get lots of vindictive reports made for personal gripes
3. You will not have to be 100% sure if you have 100% grasped the purpose of the thread and if the post is totally unrelated aka offtopic, because the poster will explain how it was relevant in the appeal if you were not sure and got it wrong.
4. You wouldn't be tempted to punish those you personally thought were ass holes via mod bias
5. People couldn't accuse you of bias or much reduced since you would reach sensible consensus.
6. Perhaps even during appeals process a chance to make small edits.

1 per year for members or above isn't that much to pay.

It is unknown the number of members that either leave the forum or all other possible negatives sparked by even genuine misunderstandings between mods and posters.

I think member would be the sensible threshold to prevent malicious abuse of appeals.
The punishment for deliberate mod abuse should be considerable if it is undeniable.
You want a fair and open forum where the truth is permitted or you don't.

Just to give some members a clue though ... are these anything to do with cr---------r because if they are that is cheating since you were challenged multiple times to present some trolling from them and failed.


Now...also


Can you wait until the thread is falling off the first page before bumping. Nullius is already on to us. Btw he reported your little picture on my rep thread. Unless he forced you to delete it? But I don't think so, suchmoron takes no orders from nerdius do they? If so you've slipped way down the pecking order and I wouldn't be so attracted to you if that the case.

Whilst you are here though. Can you suchmoon spot the reason example 1 post was deleted?
I don't think so? But I'll give you this one chance to start along the path to redemption and lasting friendship.

Come on surely there is one among you who can present a credible case for the delete that stands up to scrutiny whilst leaving all the other totally off topic garbage there?

Or if there is no person that can meet the challenge then it seems like it was another instance of mods trying to conceal the on topic relevant and valuable truths? I hope not though.

Come on let's make meta more than talking about why our earned merit score proves we must be really great posters.
That is too boring now and everyone knows that claim is laughable.

Let's have some challenges open to all members where free speech is permitted to enlist reason and just spark up some fun debates.
No need for spite and bile any longer. 2020 looks to have been a very good year for bct and with others promising to quit is only going to get a lot more wholesome and appealing. Let's all be pals again.

Debates and challenges are great fun once you guys get the hang of it.
Let's give it a whirl.

Reserved

Reserved

This is gonna be great fun.  

Btw balls up means like mistake or problem.

We can all contribute, but state which example you're referring to. Obviously there will be just 1 to start with.
Perhaps there is a pre requirement to be polite to scammers that I'm missing. I think that's where I'm going wrong.

This will be a great guide for future members to understand why their on topic , relevant and factual or truthful posts are removed.

You can be a mod in this game. Why would these posts be deleted on your watch if you were a mod.
If your reasons would result in a large bunch of other posts on that thread being deleted then that will be noted strongly.



Example 1.

This thread where Royse777 reveals members he has decided to removed from his DIStrust list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282543.0

Read it all first before spouting off crap that tells me immediately you've not read it at all.

1. Note that other members are discussing his actions relating to those specific in the OP
2. Note some are those members themselves thanking him
3. Note some members are discussing other members not listed in the OP but may be on his trust or distrust list.
4. Note nullius has just copied some deleted post from Vods thread which has nothing to do with those mentioned in the OP and just starts using that as a basis for Royse777 having poor judgement.
5. Nullius battling other members entirely unrelated to the OP

Now This post is deleted. Lol

1. It specifically details those members mentioned in the OP
2. It specifically details indisputable independently verifiable truths about these same people
3. It specifically gives an opinion on royse777 based on his removal of them from his trust list.
4. It offers to supply independently verifiable evidence to substantiate those statements if members are not already aware of the facts.



Is there a requirement to be polite about scammers or those that are fully aware of their actions but still wish to prevent scammers being treated as I feel scammers should be treated.

I mean on further consideration perhaps I was a little too unkind to royse777, but to suddenly decide to favor 3 of the biggest proven scumbags here did make me horny. I may have gone back and edited the first line or 2 of my own accord anyway.

Perhaps there is a valid reason for this delete. Let's find out.

Who can say why the other posts there are permitted but this one was deleted.?

Is it perhaps a rule that the narrative that is being spun when you arrive on a thread must be maintained regardless of whether it is clearly suboptimal or even dangerous and false?
Is it wrong to use on topic relevant truths to be the party pooper?

Now remember, be sensible, think it through. Don't just rush to be the first to think up something snarky or foolish to say. That is suchmoons job
 She will be here with her pic anyway soon enough.


This thread will be great. It will soon help me to see where I'm going wrong and others are likely making similar mistakes.
I mean one can only learn if there are clear and consistent rules for all members.

This will be very useful for the permitted flow guide I am going to post up and get at least 50000000 merits on a sticky so I can.....ah that's for another thread.

You can submit your own deletes but I will only copy them to the OP and number them if it is not entirely obvious why they were deleted.




Example 2.



*only pic of a big cookie ( sorry suchmoon).

Oh no, that's gone and done it now. Referring to lauda as male triggers a very emotional response in poor old nerdius.
He's still clinging to the silly hope that lauda is a girl with one hand and his custom size ( xxxxxxxxxs) fleshlight with the other.
If OG had said " girlfriend  lauda" then he would only be trust abused as a troll, now suddenly this extra hot flush nerdius is experiencing as the fantasy of that hottie on the net that is going to look right past the physical horror the web cam reveals, to the core of the super genius, silver tongued decrepit peasant pensioner ....slips from his sweaty grasp now sudden memories of alleged scamming rush back into mind that haven't been there for many months? Curious coincidence like using the trust system for personal vendetta. Ah yeah , was worried he wasn't using it as intended for a moment. Silly me.

Not simply vindictive grasping at straws and lashing out at all?

So anyways the thread is regarding is vod a liar. Right nullius?

I mean this has been proven many times.
But yes again if OG has not been audited and is not in prison?

But wait I mean there are plenty other examples of independently verifiable evidence of vod talking shit and trust abusing members on bogus grounds.

I can only think he got into bad company with the likes of those that have left the forum recently.

Well the transparent option on the polls seems to have been seen as a sensible option.

Let's leave that one and move to the other areas of transparency mentioned.

Okay so

Moderator and reporter transparency.

As already mentioned simply because there are some negatives it doesn't mean the idea isn't optimal.
There could be many as yet not considered positives.

Okay the problems as I see it currently are

1. Not understanding why you post was deleted.

Resulting in
A/ repeating the mistake
B/ feeling it was unfair or a biased delete.
C/ creating threads asking why or accusing mods of bias
D/ posting less or leaving the forum.


2. Not understanding why your report was marked bad

Resulting in
A/ repetitive reporting of those not meeting the threshold for deletion
B / feeling it was unfair or biased
C/ creating threads complaining of mod bias
D/ never reporting any other posts.


So it doesn't really matter if you say.

1/ I would just accept my post deleted and not care
2/ i wouldn't care if i thought i was the victim of mod bias
3/ I would keep reporting regardless.


Those problems can be mitigated and the forum improved.

If full transparency was too much. You could get a report at least saying.

You've had

25 posts deleted , reported by 4 members , deleted by 1 mod.

The reason could simply copy in the reason given by the reporter or one from a drop down list the mod selects from.

I mean the reporter and mod could have an option to report and mark transparently.

Moderation has improved but really the mod allowing anyone to spam every thread started by another member regarding legitimate proposals or debates and demand they halt or stop should be immediately fired.  It is completely ludicrous.
Same for allowing every member to tell lies or spread misinformation but delete the provable truth.
They should be fired at once. This is deliberate and willful enabling and facilitating the spread of false information.

The fact the mods hide away from public debate on this is very telling.
You can delete independently verifiable truths and allow complete bullshit to be promulgated unchallenged.
Crazy shit.

Then cry when people mention on other mediums the narrative here is carefully scripted and controlled in certain areas and regarding certain members. Let people say what they want so long as it is on topic and relevant. Let the reader check the evidence and verify and decide for themselves.  

I mean you have mods that permit certain members to make false accusations against other members, then when the accused conclusively refutes those accusations with independently verifiable evidence the mods delete it  
Scandalous. There is nothing you can do the mods simply hide away like cowards when you challenge it  
Weasels. Come out and debate if it is clear you're biased put the post back and apologize or get fired.

Mods are meant to be objective and impartial.
Some mods are good and do good work.
I suspect there are a couple of corrupt eggs working with a couple of vindictive reporters. Those stats based reports would soon demonstrate such patterns.

You could also introduce some things like .. after careful review are you happy with this action.

So if a certain mod is getting a lot of unhappy reports that could flag an issue. Even better if these type of options and features could be attached weight by merit score so unhappy shit posters are not really considered . Sadly since there is no requirement for giving merits and it is simply a meaningless metric that is not sensible currently. I mean if merits earned was even remotely correlated with the value of a post you could really leverage it to do a lot of amazing things that could really optimize the forum.

To be fair even if the trust system and merit system remained a joke but moderation was objective impartial and effective aka optimal it wouldn't make much difference to those that are not here for financial gain.

The warnings on top of peoples threads that falsely claim some members think you are a scammer or financially dangerous  ( when no member has any evidence you ever tried to scam,  set up a scam or showed any form of financially motivated wrong doing at all ever are always going to be clearly disgusting and defamatory)
But other than those if you were permitted to defend yourself and punish proven scammers when on topic and relevant without mod bias then the DT and merit are less important.  It is terrible when even at an admin level the truth is deliberately hidden from view.

I think transparency would go a long way to stop that even semi transparency.
Plus prevent repetitive mistakes or errors of judgement , unwarranted feelings of bias, and collusion between isolated pockets of corruption. Putting members off posting or reporting.

That's probably a lot to take in. So read a couple of times and think it over.
Try to consider this from a macro perspective. If you start thinking hmmm.. how could this help someone I thoroughly want to leave then you are not being objective and thinking how it could help the entire forum going forward.

Of course if you see problems or have other improvements to add then feel free to mention them.
What else you gonna do on meta board? Tell everyone how many meaningless merits you have or how others shouldn't post here for money only whilst wearing the highest paying gambling sig you could get? Or errrrr how you want to be able to give merits out, or how many merits  should be deleted from those that got them airdropped or random other merits based stats.

Come on treat yourselves to discussing and debating something new now and then.

The problem with meta board is clearly that most members frequenting meta board are the prime beneficiaries to the status quo so discussing changes that challenge the status quo or a move to systems that cant be gamed or level the playing field are immediately hated lol.

Wow noobius nerdius has blown a gasket

CH would certainly add suchmoon to his stable of hot BBW's. I think there is just too much bad blood between suchmoon and OG where as suchmoon and CH are clearly just flirting constantly.

However your entire post is off topic.

Vod apparently has lied since OG just said no audit and still free for jail.

The likes of OG daring to speak to the likes of noobius nerdius.... lol no way? That didnt happen ?

So we can conclude vod has lied then? Okay well scammer protector and liar it is.  
Where is that fat spaz? The three (sc)amigos have left together or what?  

Tell him  you've got a nice collection of wigs and a strap on that are burning a hole in your pocket for a good cyber sex session and watch that red turn green in nano seconds. If you can convey that to the  old perv in latin, then you'll likely need to move house as he'll  be stalking you out.

Some say it was the constant felching and fawning, begging for attention, over protectiveness, possessive jealous, love notes with pages of nauseating admiration and begging and pleading in latin for cam sessions from nerdius that finally drove the conniving cat away.

I only hope he can heal in time. Even lauda didn't deserve to experience that.

Anyway all elder and wiser members know the more red you have from the current DT and their felchers the more you can be trusted.

Ah that reminds me. Suchmoon will never win our posting/deleting battle.
There can be only 1.

Ha, well we shouldn't count our chickens with the cretin Tman. That retard may have just blown up his old computer and is still reading the set up guide for the new one. So maybe he could be back within a few years.

Vod leaving sadly seems unlikely, although he is likely crying in one corner of his mommas basement, having possibly lost his 2 fav scamming pals this year.

What will Lfcbitcoin do now? Who will tell him what to post? or who to backstab ? or who to lie to?

@ nerdius - no more disrespectful comments to forum legends like OG or I'll have to ban you from this valuable and informative thread.
Also no more ordering my fav BBW around.  If she wants to post her little pictures on my self moderated threads then I will permit it as and when it suits me.

I love this post.  With one exception.

Telling suchmoon to stop posting her pic here is not permitted.
She may post it in my self moderated threads at my discretion.

Now about lauda being a confirmed scammer again. Let's get back on track.

Nullius can post but don't tell hot bbw beast wrestlers like suchmoon what to do on my threads.
On this thread I'm the train man.

Also suchmoon does not  like you telling her what to do. So stop it else she may even turn you down for cyber sex once you work down the list of possible females here lol

If suchmoon stops now because you told her too that is really unsportsmanly.
Is that even a word? We'll find out in a moment... where is my spell checking old fart?

1. There are no " supposed" lies. The lies are there and confirmed.
2. Yes thankfully there were those there to oppose the lies but that doesn't mean everyone read the oppositio
3.  That's like saying no scammer is a scammer if they are opposed in public.
4. Not everyone was dragged on and thankfully. If you were around at the time a huge proportion of traders and members called it out for an instamine scam after CH called it out.

The main issue actually was lauda decided to use the trust system to punish persons mentioning his scamming history.
However, that only happened after lauda randomly attacked them and made false allegations against them.

" supposed" , " beef" ?

Scammer = lauda
Scammer hunter = ch

Simple.

Lauda uses the bogus trust system to punish his whistleblower ch

Simple.

Laudas dumb ass pal tman admitted in public slapping ch with red trust for presenting evidence of laudas scamming.

Simple.

Goodbye user account lauda. I'll just talk to the scammer via his new alt.

Come on vixen, the subhuman centipede will just feast on each others asses now.
But a worthy leader would likely be someone who claims their opinions are not based upon any form of reasoning and perhaps claiming they can time travel? Know anyone like this?

The mantle will pass to .... actually it makes no difference since not one of the gang or the entire gang ever managed to tackle and defeat anything the true legend ever said.

Suchmoon would be the most dominant physically but since that has no weight here.....hmmm
My bet is someone quite slimy. Yes even more slimy than suchmoon all oiled up in her beast wrestling costume. Yummmmm
I hate the slimy ones more than the others actually.

The ass feasting noob minions are just toe curling.

I wish I'd not read nullius last post.  I cant stop laughing at how TPOTO expects anyone to believe another human or member of the animal kingdom, paid, bribed or otherwise would put their tongue anywhere near his crusty, old, hairy, hemorrhoid, and cling-on obscured
Baggy ring piece.

Come on TPTO be sensible. Make your lies less fantastical. I cant even be bothered to scrutinise such obvious falsehoods.

1. Lauda was a noob.
2. Ad hominem doesn't invalidate an argument. It simply adds nothing to it.
3. The link is there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249969.0

Lauda was not as bad as some here, but still it was a scammer and trust abuser. Even after you would give it a chance and it would say "oh I was new here and I regret it" then it would come back start attacking you when it was none of its business and try to ruin your account. That's after you would give it another chance. I watched this happen with him and another member here.

Lauda never tackled a huge scam ever. It takes more than lauda had to be fully isolated and start attacking a huge colluding mass single handed. He was a core defender and proponent of a huge scam. I've seen him warn down and spat out by individuals in the past. Money was his main goal.  Make no mistake.  Yes he could be okay at times but only if you were doing what he wanted. His attitude sucked. He reminds me of suchmoon only a slightly smarter version of her.  Whether they are the same person but he fakes a drop in iq by 20 points to take on the suchmoon role. Who knows. That is speculation.

No 3rd chances.

To be fair it matters not that he is gone, since he wasn't half as annoying as some of his slobbering assslicking groupies.
Also now that he has gone I note some semi sensible members are converting to slobbering groupies.
People need to be part of the in group. Pathetic weasels.

Since the conniving cat is likely  to be facing a long stretch on cell block C,  or some such karma has struck lauda.

I see we have a lot of asslicking plebs and her chief ball washer aka nullius  creating a bunch of bogus eulogies about laudas great and illustrious past here. All based on a complete fantasy when you consider the real history of this dirt bag.

So I tried to inject some truth, but since these goons obviously have some mod on their pay roll or who just likes their salad tossed regularly they went and deprived the reader of those truths.

Being the standup honest fellow that I am I will repost those truths here .
Selflessly and without concern for nullius's feelings.

Likely that shit stained fat slob suchmoron reported them and who the fuck knows which skank of a mod deleted them,  since nothing is transparent here.





I may quote some more funny replies from the slobbering turd army so I can comment on their comments later.
Since the truth is obviously not welcome on that thread.


Anyway the good news is conniving cat is hopefully in jail soon.
Next all the other scammers

Great replies from my friends here.

It's better to deal with specifics.

Let's get down to some.

Now. You see the poor scammer lauda was forced to leave the forum.
So now all the slobbering turds here run to laudas thread with eulogies of all his great works and pretending he was so net postive for the forum... oh what a sad loss.

I mean 4 pages of this bogus provably false shit and that weird creepy pervy gimp nullius basically admitting he loved lauda and is now all heartbroken that lauda pulled an Alia on him and left him with blue balls no cyber sex like he was hoping for after slobbering around debasing  himself making excuses and pushing clear double standards and hypocrisy to impress her (him)
Anyway all of that is contained in that thread and in previous admissions from nullius the guy is a scary hannibal like pervy ghoul.

So a thread full of lies and shit.

I come along and post a link to a thread that proves lauda was a lying deceptive scamming piece of dirt.
He was also a proven trust abuser.
Was implicated in an extortion scheme and was a proven sneaky intentional plagiarist.

You know... sorry for furnishing the reader with the truth.

So yes those posts are deleted.  What they are off topic and irrelevant ??

But all the lies and bogus blowing smoke up lauda the scammers ass were not off topic and irrelevant at all?

So you can be off topic and tell lies but not be off topic and tell the truth.  LOL
Maybe in such a case you can only be on topic and relevant if you tell lies.
Then we wonder why people question the credibility of the forum.

I mean Im saying my goodbyes too :*(

That's the kind of bogus moderation we are dealing with.
The mods have no interest in seeing the reader furnished with the the truth they prefer to delete the truth and push bogus lies on the reader.

Now anyone that wishes to debunk the statements I have just made about lauda can do so right now.
I challenge anyone here.


Next - you see that dumb fuck suchmoon. You know the same stupid twat that was screaming for ages that CH was crazy to suggest the top merit earners were not making the best posts here, and suchmoon was insisting that merit was a great indication of the members posting value? A great base for the trust system lol

Going as far as to make claims such as

All pre merit legends are spammers

And it was entirely stupid and incorrect to suggest that some of the 99.97% of the forum could make posts as good as some of the 0.03% of the top merit earners?

Then to be found saying the terms good poster and bad poster are meaningless terms without strict criteria and definition.
Debunking all crap she had been spewing for months.

So, yes that such moon. Is now stalking every thread I make and slapping pictures demanding the debates are halted.
Imagine that mods have not deleted a single one that I have reported. All marked bad.

Now of course this is clearly not permitted.
If I were to make a picture of saying don't feed the fat slob suchmoon and follow her to threads and slap that in them over and over again.
They would be deleted instantly.

This is mod bias.

1. Suchmoon has never even once been able to demonstrate I have been incorrect about anything I have said. I have challenged her many many times to bring even 1 probably false piece of information that I have presented as true about another member or the systems of control here or any bones of contention suchmoron has with my posts.  She has failed and always run away.

2. I have debunked her crap over and over. She has never even won one argument with me or anyone I support over anything.
She is a proven troll and scammer protector. So if anyone should be posting pictures demanding her threads are abandoned it should be me.

This is clearly mod bias.

I mean even if you debunked someone's claims 1x before you cant just demanded they never make a thread again and if they do you will demand their threads are halted and the debate cease. I mean suchmoon has been debunked and I don't even do that to that fat dumb slob.  I would go to her thread and publically and transparently pull it apart if I chose.

That fat slob has zero shame. It runs from debate and just spams this demand to cease discussion on my threads. I don't even care she does that. What pisses me off is the mod scum that colludes with her to break the rules.
That is off topic,  irrelevant, low value spamming but they mark the reports as bad. Lol


There is no point saying it is a matter of opinion. It is a clear double standard and clear mod abuse.

If you knew who the mod was you could call them out personally to answer. However how to find out? No way?

This hiding away is cowardice and treachery.

The forum will lose all credibility since already prominent members of the crypto community are correctly claiming that the narrative here is tightly controlled. Free speech exists until you want to present evidence that spoils what they want to convey as being true about something they really care about rather than allowing free and open debate.

Banning, tagging,  flagging is all just a joke. The undeniable independently verifiable truth is impossible to thwart.

Now as to those still farting on about IP and emails etc .. this is proof you don't read the thread.  Try again.

To the others asking what benefit would transparency have ...well we can run through all of the benefits soon. I mean some should be immediately self evident.  However I know I clearly over estimate the types I am dealing with on meta board so we can run through those nice and slowly step by step and debate it.

Lets deal with the probably not mod bias and just a case of being over touchy or paranoid first.
I mean those examples alone are clear cut. But there are even greater extremes of mod bias.

There is no way to tackle mod bias whilst the mod is hiding and you don't even know who the scumbag is .

Quick big news ...

You will find it in rep...

2020 was saving the best until last...

A scammer is gone.

Well that is good to know. A sensible requirement. I would make all of my own polls transparent anyway.
If others didnt wish for their polls to be transparent then fair enough. It would be good enough to point that out as a challenge for when you suspect the results are bogus.

For jademaxsuy

Yes, there are no demands. We should all be grateful to have found bitcointalk. I certainly am.
However there is no harm debating improvements. If there was a clear case they would not be improvements that is fine.

We must remember you can demonstrate there are some undeniable negatives to a plan of action but still that plan of action would remain optimal. People can't say well there is this potential negative terminate the idea when there would be far more potential positives.

Knowing the mod is essential. It is strange meta board has no assigned mods. Then when you enquire about a very strange delete or even stranger refusal to delete they hide up. I mean you only need to hear the explanation 1x for permitting a member to stalk your legitmate threads and post pictures demanding the debate to cease. Obviously that must be applicable to all members so would be a very useful explanation. The specifics would be more than interesting.

Sadly most people run away when you start to drill down to specifics.

I understand that some people will always put selfish gain above doing the right thing.
They are not the type of members I would seek to encourage here anyway. We're all stocked up with those.
There will be some sensible and credible reasons that people could voice against the reporter being transparent.
That could remain transparent if the moderator handling was transparent and the reported was given some indication that the same reporter was reporting x number of their posts without revealing the username . You have to understand that hiding the reporter encourages targeting and vindictive behavior.


However yes the post is either relevant, on topic , useful and credible or it is not.
Perhaps there should be a mechanism to discourage vindictive and false reporting?

Either way the mod must be transparent.  The reporter if DT should be. Surely they would not put selfish interest above doing the best right thing. But at a minimum the mod. I would like to see a connection or collusion or vindictive pattern of action if it exists.
That type of thing being visible or detectable would discourage it in the first place

What about the polls ?

Those imbeciles attempting to conflate this with RL transparency like kyc are clearly morons.
Feel free to fuck off to threads that cater to retards on your own level.
Read the OP. There is no mention of attempting to DNA map you mutants.

Full transparency on the forum. Aka your username is tied clearly to your actions here for all to observe. Nothing more.