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41  Economy / Services / Re: Think I found a huge exploit on: March 23, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
Why don't you either play the hero and fix it (or work privately with those who can), or play the villain and secretly exploit the crap out of this?

Oh, yeah, it's because you're playing the scammer as you've got nothing.

Nice try though.
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Forum now hosting the Bitcoin Wiki on: March 23, 2014, 02:48:24 PM
Unexpected thread turn.

Lol damn I remember this is some old crazy shit https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin
Luke does version numbers in tonal, too. It has caused some surprises... Cheesy Great, queer guy - does a lot of good work.

Smart people usually have mental illness.  See flappy bird, autistic savants, etc.

Wonder why bfg doesnt have tonal version numbers


because cgminer didn't....  Roll Eyes

lol.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi was a "genius", then why do BTC transactions take so long? on: March 22, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Retailers get risks in all payment forms.

Bitcoin is slow if risk is 0, and so are other payment forms. Actually bitcoin is better to handle risk and processing time.
The retailer can do something like this in his Point of Sale system :

if value < $30 , conf = 0
if value  > $30  conf = 1
if value > $100 , conf = 3
if value > $400 , conf = 6


If you're willing to accept purchase with 0 confirmations, then we should hook up... I have a lot of micro-purchases I'd like to conduct with you.

Sure, just don't forget to smile for the camera as you check out, we already have your license plate since you parked in our parking lot.

This not-so-serious post is just one example of ways B&M merchants can feel confident selling goods for 0 confirmations. They could even require you to show them your ID unless you wanted to wait for a confirmation.

There are other ways as well. You could make a transfer to the store upon entrance, and you get confirmations while you shop. Upon check out, the merchant adds up your total and subtracts it from your deposit, sending you the change.

There are reasons most merchants stopped taking personal checks, and this is one of them. The merchant would rather eat a 2.9-3.9% CC fee and process a transaction with little risk, than have to fight dead beat check writers in court. Despite the law being on the merchant's side, it usually turned out to be a losing proposition due to having to track them down, file court documents, and appear in court.

I, personally, view Bitcoin as a better ACH, but it's just ripe for someone to build a credit card network on top of it.
44  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [PSA][All BTC Miners Requested] or... say good-bye to the Bitcoin Network on: March 22, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I mine at Slush's pool, so can't blame me if things go badly.  I have no idea why people keep piling onto large pools; I get paid exactly what I am supposed to get paid at Slush's.


How can you be so sure?

Did you check it somehow?

All pools, (assuming equal fees, pays Tx fees, isn't using a wonky made up scoring system, etc) will pay out the same over time. That's just how mining works.

The large pools reduce your pay outs, but payout more frequently. The smaller pools increase the payouts, but pay out less frequently. It all works out in the end.
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi was a "genius", then why do BTC transactions take so long? on: March 22, 2014, 10:54:39 PM
Retailers get risks in all payment forms.

Bitcoin is slow if risk is 0, and so are other payment forms. Actually bitcoin is better to handle risk and processing time.
The retailer can do something like this in his Point of Sale system :

if value < $30 , conf = 0
if value  > $30  conf = 1
if value > $100 , conf = 3
if value > $400 , conf = 6


If you're willing to accept purchase with 0 confirmations, then we should hook up... I have a lot of micro-purchases I'd like to conduct with you.
46  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investors - LTC vs BTC - Mathematics on: March 22, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
What is the mathematically rationale for increased ROI ( LTC vs BTC ) ?

Many people think much larger proportional ROI for LTC is a mathematical certainty?

Is there any truth to this?

Many thanks

There are no certainties in investment other than there will certainly be uncertainty.
47  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [6000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: March 22, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
Could block winning shares be malleable, to make a block witholding attack viable.

If you are asking if a share can be stolen (withheld) by a miner for the purpose of "redeeming" on their own, then the answer is "no". That is not possible, each share is hashed such that the pool is the payout address.

The only reason a miner would withhold a block solution is to cause financial hardship on a pool. They gain no direct financial gain from this.
48  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How can 0% fee pools make money? on: March 22, 2014, 02:46:19 PM
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Re: How can 0% fee pools make money? "Not even the dog wags its tail for free"

1. Loan BTC to speculators/governments who want to short the Bitcoin market/keep the exchange rate stable.
2. Delay payouts and use other peoples BTC to speculate on Bitcoin price moves (Currency Arbitrage).
3. Keep all the transaction fees for yourself.
4. Secretly merge mine an alt coin and keep them all for yourself.
5. Create a payment system that doesn't pay miners for all the found blocks.
6. Create a payment share system so complicated people don't realize they are paying a hidden fee.

My advice, never mine anywhere you can't be paid daily! If payments are delayed, get out fast!

P2pool is a distributed network of pools so cost is shared between many nodes, and the most popular node, P2Pool.org, does actually charge a 2% fee!


Very true! I can think of a pool that fits this category, lol.
49  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I loaned you 1 bitcoin today, how could i expect you to repay if value rises? on: March 22, 2014, 10:47:05 AM
Debt is slavery, if you give me a dollar, don't ever expect it back. There's a reason bitcoin transactions are one-way, just like cash.

If I'm so poor that I need to borrow money to meet my needs, my society has FAILED at both equality and solidarity.

http://strikedebt.org/

Did I mention fuck capitalism?

Because fuck capitalism.

You've fallen off the deep end! Don't get me wrong, I think consumer debt is horrible, but not all debt is the worst. Judging by your response I'd say it's probably safe to say that you do not own real estate, if you did you'd probably have first hand experience in at least one situation where debt can be at least a neutral force in someone's life.

Circling back to the OP's question; in the case of real estate loans (and certain other long term loans), it's not uncommon for them to be priced at (+/- 1%) of inflation. For example, I have a 30 year home loan priced at 3% interest. Once you factor in inflation, is the bank really making much or anything? In fact, as the debtor I would be foolish to pre-pay such a loan. Ignoring the interest write-offs (as that's a very country and loan specific thing), the fact that the loan hovers around the inflation rate means any pre-payment carries an opportunity cost risk without a large (any?) financial benefit.

So, this really all comes back to an ROI calculation against opportunity cost. If a BTC loan's interest can be justified by having access to BTC today verses tomorrow then re-paying at (or slightly above) inflation could be justified.

Obviously a smart consumer is going to run the calculations in both fiat and BTC, so you'd want to keep the duration of such BTC loans lower... Say 12 months, as to mitigate this.

So, in short; yes, BTC loans could work (even at 26% interest), but you'd have to keep them short and probably have them be very specific purpose loans (e.g. Loans specifically for purchasing mining equipment where you could keep physical possession of the hardware as collateral). "Personal" loans where the debtor can do anything with their BTC or Multi-year loans are probably way too risky given the current inflation rate.
50  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: PPLNS on: March 22, 2014, 05:25:04 AM
The correct method is as follows.
1. Choose a parameter X, which represents multiples of D to include in the window when difficulty is static. X=2 is a good choice.
2. When a share is submitted, assign to it a score of 1/D, where D is the difficulty at the time the share is submitted.
3. When a block is found, pay (sB)/X for the last share (the one before the winning share), where s is the share's score and B is the block reward. Continue backwards, paying each share based on its score, until you reach a share which brings the total score of the shares counted above X. Pay that share the amount (sB)/(tX) * min (r,t), where r is the score required to bring the total to exactly X and t is the score of the winning share. Don't pay any older shares.
4. If the pool has just started, and a block is found before there are shares totaling a score of X, there will be leftover rewards and it should be decided what to do with them. It doesn't matter much, but I recommend that the operator keeps them (in a macroscopic view, if the pool ever changes, this is compensation for the funds needed to cash participants out). Other options include donating to charity, or distributing among the miners.

How does this (specifically steps 2 & 3) change when a pool fee is involved? Is B simply reduced by the fee amount (e.g. B is only 99% of what it otherwise was in a 1% fee pool)?
51  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: So, today, Is OpenRigs.com a scam or not? Finally the truth on: March 20, 2014, 03:17:19 AM
Is OpenRigs.com a SCAM or not??

If you have to ask the question, you probably already have your answer. When in doubt, trust your gut.

BTW, I know nothing about them... just speaking from previous experiences in general.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / NMC to BTC on: March 20, 2014, 03:09:27 AM
Where is the best place to trade namecoins to bitcoins?

Through merged mining I've gathered several namecoins and have no desire for them. I simply wish to trade them for bitcoins (or litecoins). Unfortunately the two places I've looked (Cryptsy and BTC-e) seem to have VERY shallow markets. I'm afraid unloading these there might be problematic.

What does everyone else do to unload these?
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BlockChain Size on: March 20, 2014, 03:00:14 AM
The whole  blockchain is not useful for personal usage.

You can use wallet online like blockchain.info instead

You also lose a LARGE portion of what makes Bitcoin, Bitcoin. The Bitcoin "core" app is the problem here, but resorting to having to trust a 3rd party with your money isn't a wise solution.
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nakamoto in Denial on: March 20, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
Why on earth does he want to cut his ties with Bitcoin? I don't get the problem...

Satoshi abandoned bitcoin the very same day Gavin Andresen informed him of his plans to visit the feds in Washington to discuss the project.

^^ this!
55  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What happened to Mt. Gox? on: March 20, 2014, 01:37:35 AM
Here you go: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/28/us-bitcoin-mtgox-bankruptcy-idUSBREA1R0FX20140228
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin + Litecoin = Nokia ? on: March 20, 2014, 01:08:12 AM
Bitcoin != Nokia

Paypal = Nokia

While bitcoin may not be a Nokia, it sure as heck could become a blackberry if it doesn't evolve.

I'm puzzled as to how the core BTC team sees Bitcoin working for most transactions. Last I checked I didn't have to wait 10 minutes at a convenience store for my Visa to pre-auth.

Many altcoins (Litecoin included) try to address this slow confirmation timeframe.

As it currently is, a Bitcoin is a better ACH not a better Visa.
57  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [500 TH] EMC: No Fee DGM. Anonymous PPS. US & EU servers. on: March 20, 2014, 12:07:44 AM
Yes that is correct. 1/2 percent.


Thanks!

Hope 1/2% doesn't sound cheap  Embarrassed
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block chain size/storage and slow downloads for new users on: March 19, 2014, 08:31:30 PM
There are ways to get around the stupid small size of the SSD's. Blockchain for some reason with the OLD Stupid stuff, seems not a issue at all.

I think most people here are either in IT or know there way around a computer. So, I know you know how to deal with this, as do I.

I guess my point really was that my father/mother/uncle/aunt wouldn't, and if we can't make bitcoin approachable for the non-techie then bitcoin has failed.

I'm hopeful since alternative clients exist, and hopefully they take off. But, the point still remains that Bitcoin-Qt is "marketed" as the "official" client and is the one most people start with. First impressions are very important.
59  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reasonable Price For A Hardware Wallet on: March 19, 2014, 08:22:49 PM
I voted for "< $50".

I like the basic idea, though I wonder if the details of a tablet with linux sidestepped your concept. I think if you had a device like Coin that worked with my phone and somehow the two together ensure a greater security for my wallet, then "heck yeah".

But, like Coin, it'd had to be small enough to fit into my regular wallet.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Rig that honestly works - a recommendation on: March 19, 2014, 08:13:05 PM
to mine asic resistant coins in addition to my s1 miners and my gridseeds - that's why

there are more coins out there than just bitcoin and litecoin and you might be very surprised to find out the profitability with the right equipment, but that's good for me since there are so many mining lemmings chanting the bitcoin and litecoin mantra.

LOL


My point was that you were in the wrong forum section, but it looks like this post has already been moved.
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