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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: April 02, 2014, 01:30:02 AM
Why should I buy 1 BTC of this coin instead of Mastercoin or Ethereum? Huh

Compare the Valuations of MasterCoin and Counterparty.

Counterparty has a working product. A Distributed Exchange and Ability to issue assets. Mastercoin has a distributed exchange but the assets and betting functionality is still being developed.

MasterCoin
Price: 34$
MarketCap: 21 Million

Counterparty
Price: 2$
MarketCap: 6 Million. (30% of Mastercoin)

To me Counterparty seems undervalued relative Mastercoin.

Ethereum - The concept only exists on paper and there is no working prototype till Q4 2014 (which might get further delayed).


I'd go with Counterparty.
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos - Scrypt-Jane) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage on: April 02, 2014, 01:28:49 AM
looks like interesting, but more like a scam!
I don't want to ipo.
Based on what? Have you even looked at the coin yet? I was firstly doubtful, but then after seeing their website and the IPO process on their site I invested immediately.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - The Future has Arrived on: April 02, 2014, 01:26:50 AM
We have kept our identities unknown, mainly for privacy reasons. Please take a look at what we have posted first before prematurely making accusations solely based on the fact that we are offering an IPO.

privacy reasons? Unless you are Satoshi Nakamoto, there is no need for this. Are you planning on an escrow for the IPO? if there is no escrow, then you are a scammer, plain and simple.
We shall not be using escrow for the IPO, simply due to the fact we have no guarantee that the individual who is providing the escrow will keep the funds safely and not take the funds that have been raised and run away with them.

Come on that's bullshit, take it from me everyone. I'm part of the development team of an IPO based coin, escrow is an immediate priority.
I've taken a look at EdgeCoin. All I see is a bunch of screenshots. Numus actually has a whitepaper, a professional video and website and what seems to be a great designer/design team.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Here's Why You Should Invest In Numus Right NOW on: April 01, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
i believe it to be a scam. if Anon136 releases the bitcoins before the blockchain is released, thats wrong. I also believe that Numus is betting on the fact that some people won't even bother with Escrow.

you guys have been warned.
I don't think that's what going to happen. I think most likely Anon136 will give users their coins when the actual wallet is released.

45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Here's Why You Should Invest In Numus Right NOW on: April 01, 2014, 03:50:32 PM
Do they do escrow at all?
Yeah I think Anon136 is providing the optional escrow.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Here's Why You Should Invest In Numus Right NOW on: April 01, 2014, 03:11:58 PM
Does it even exist? I had the impression there is not even so much as a proof of concept you can download and test, look at the quality of the code of and so on...

For example I see no github nor sourceforge nor gitian nor google code etc URL among the URLs you posted...

-MarkM-

It seems not, probably don't want others to steal their code.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Here's Why You Should Invest In Numus Right NOW on: April 01, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
So I heard about this coin recently and since I've been hooked on it. I've invested in their IPO myself and here's why you should too.

1) They have an Introductory Video - https://vimeo.com/89947268
Which alt-coin have you EVER seen with an introductory video to even begin with?

2) They released a whitepaper - http://numus.org/whitepaper.pdf
Their whitepaper details every nook and cranny about the coin. They even have blueprints for a Decentralized Exchange

3) They have some really innovative proposals for features - ^^ In the whitepaper

4) Their marketing and website are top-notch
I have never, seen an alt-coin with such a good website or marketing team to promote their coin as well as this.

If you want to invest you can do so through their site : http://ipo.numus.org in or in their thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=543503.0
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos - Scrypt-Jane) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage on: March 31, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
110% certain Numus is BCNext. 

Who's BCNext?

BCNext is the guy who created NXT : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.0
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos - Scrypt-Jane) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage on: March 31, 2014, 08:37:59 PM
Hey why not change to X11 or SHA-3 Keccak? I thought X11 was a bloated algorithm, but after doing some research turns out I was wrong.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos - Scrypt-Jane) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage on: March 31, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
Hi there

I heard about this recently on overclock.net and invested in it today through your website. I registered here because I'm not sure whether I need to be a Bitcointalk member to receive my NMS.
If you also invested through the website like myself, then all you need is your Investor ID and Key I believe.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos - Scrypt-Jane) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage on: March 30, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
Why not keep the Lotto System? It would be the first of its kind.
Why not just rebrand it, under a new name so that w]people won't think of it as "gambling"
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on Numus' Features? Decentralized Exchange and more on: March 30, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
Invested 0.1 BTC in it, lets see where this goes
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on Numus' Features? Decentralized Exchange and more on: March 29, 2014, 12:31:53 PM
Wasn't NXT the one that lied about how long one had to buy into the IPO, suddenly closing the IPO before its announced closure date, thus screwing maybe the vast majority of people who were considering buying it by closing the buying unexpectedly?

-MarkM-

The same one.
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage, Lotto System on: March 29, 2014, 10:50:30 AM
Too small percentage per annum with PoS...
A very high percenctage would discourage users from actually using the currency.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage, Lotto System on: March 29, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
I've read the whitepaper, but the only thing that really concerns me is regarding the Decentralized Exchange. Though I see no current flaws in it, there may be ways to sort of abuse it.

In the end I see one of three ways abuse would be attempted:

1) [John claims he did not receive $200 but actually did. John declines.]
John = +$200, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

2) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually did not. John declines.]
John = -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

3) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually sent $100. John either accepts or declines.]
This is a mutual destruction scenario in which some interesting game theory may end up coming into play.

3a) John declines (mutual destruction)

John = +$100, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -$100, -0.1 NMS

3b) John accepts (John realizes that either way he will lose 2 NMS but this will save him the collateral 0.1 NMS)
John = +$100, -2 NMS
Jenny = -$100, +2 NMS
John and Jenny don't have any prior knowledge of each other. When posting the trade order on the exchange only the traders Numus addresses are shown (banking details are transferred once the payment has been initiated) thus anonomity is ensured. The network automatically links to two open trade orders from Jenny and John, so they have no possible knowledge of each other besides their Numus address and thus no prior incentive to scam each other.
Okay thanks for the answer
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on Numus' Features? Decentralized Exchange and more on: March 29, 2014, 10:02:36 AM
The way I see it is that John and Jenny don't know each other since only their addresses would be shown. Therefore there would be no reason for them to stab each other in the back.
[emphasis added]

This actually tends to have the opposite effect.
How so? If anything it should decrease the effect.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage, Lotto System on: March 29, 2014, 09:14:13 AM
I've read the whitepaper, but the only thing that really concerns me is regarding the Decentralized Exchange. Though I see no current flaws in it, there may be ways to sort of abuse it.

In the end I see one of three ways abuse would be attempted:

1) [John claims he did not receive $200 but actually did. John declines.]
John = +$200, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

2) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually did not. John declines.]
John = -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

3) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually sent $100. John either accepts or declines.]
This is a mutual destruction scenario in which some interesting game theory may end up coming into play.

3a) John declines (mutual destruction)

John = +$100, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -$100, -0.1 NMS

3b) John accepts (John realizes that either way he will lose 2 NMS but this will save him the collateral 0.1 NMS)
John = +$100, -2 NMS
Jenny = -$100, +2 NMS
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts on Numus' Features? Decentralized Exchange and more on: March 29, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Okay I've read the whitepaper. The only thing that really concerns me about the Decentralized Exchange is that though I see no current flaws in it, there may be ways to sort of abuse it.

In the end I see one of three ways abuse would be attempted:

1) [John claims he did not receive $200 but actually did. John declines.]
John = +$200, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

2) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually did not. John declines.]
John = -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -0.1 NMS

3) [Jenny claims to have sent $200, but actually sent $100. John either accepts or declines.]
This is a mutual destruction scenario in which some interesting game theory may end up coming into play.

3a) John declines (mutual destruction)

John = +$100, -2.1 NMS
Jenny = -$100, -0.1 NMS

3b) John accepts (John realizes that either way he will lose 2 NMS but this will save him the collateral 0.1 NMS)
John = +$100, -2 NMS
Jenny = -$100, +2 NMS
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage, Lotto System on: March 29, 2014, 08:32:28 AM
lol, great username
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Numus (Pow+Pos) - Decentralized Exchange, Cloud Storage, Lotto System on: March 29, 2014, 08:08:50 AM
Love your marketing. Will be investing pretty soon.
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