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41  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 11, 2018, 03:00:35 PM
>A month ago they were telling the world on Reddit that they were a registered company in Belize. Currently on their website "About Us" page they are listed as being registered in Netherlands.

Where did you find that they are registered in Netherlands?

Registered in Belize, office in Netherlands. What's wrong? It's a normal practice in the world.
42  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 11, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
>Do you expect people to meet your team members at blockchain conferences but they will keep their full names hidden?

Have you ever visited any blockchain related conference? Have you ever participated in any blockchain related business? I guess no. The same troll as ni23457 is

> You sound like a bunch of scammers to me by not giving out full names because you are not a public company!

Do you think every company in the world would disclose you its employees? Really? Emotions (or money) clouded your mind

>CHANGENOW HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF SELECTIVE SCAMMING IN WHICH A USER LOST A MASSIVE 11 BTC. PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM CHANGENOW AND USE CHANGELLY INSTEAD.

Hahaha, you are the one we should trust
43  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 07:36:55 PM
There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto.
I doubt any legit company would share information about which law enforcement agency requested customer data.
Oh god what law enforcement agency?  what legit company?

this is their "company"
https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t (the page was removed a 5 weeks ago)
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/ (the founders were changed 3 weeks ago)

and this ChangeNOW.io Evercode Lab - Scam. Defamation. Abuses. Threats - Russian Business


I see you have no more arguments and can not maintain a dialogue
44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 07:10:48 PM
>The evidence points to selective scamming

No evidence also, just suspicion


> but giving them the benefit of the massive doubt they need to clarify the whole situation with the AML/KYC and the threshold that makes it mandatory to send ID to them.

Agree. Will be waiting for their clarification
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 06:38:56 PM
Next time please mind your previous "stories" when preparing the next lie  Wink
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 06:28:08 PM
OMG another lie from ni23457

This is the evidence of the second attempt of the document forgery:

Yes, I made a mistake that at the very beginning I sent a picture with someone's passport from google.images (but I sent the picture just to the fameless anonymous guys with no real address, company name or even phone number: they can be anyone, even gangsters). But then I still sent the real documents and now I wait 10 days from the moment of sending documents, and they say that they are conducting an investigation.

47  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
> What are your opinions about changenow scamming Privcoin? Do you think it is not a scam?

I do not have enough information on that case. But I know that now lots of stolen from bithumb and nicehash coins are being transacted all over the crypto services. And most of the crypto services are informed about that. I'm not sure that privcoin incident is related to that it's just my guess based on the fact that mixers are often used to launder coins.

And the biggest problem for crypto services here is the fact they can not disclose the real reason of blocking such coins cos they were "kindly asked" by interpol

>How can they force someone to send ID after a trade has been initiated when they never made it clear that they would ask for ID in the first place?

Agree. Transparency is the key. Personally I think that changenow have made a mistake of not clearly specifying the conditions of AML/KYC procedure.

> they scammed him because they wanted his coins.

I don't think that 70k usd is such a big amount for them Grin
48  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 04:53:07 PM
It's a pity that the user was robbed 100 BCH.

Personally I have used change now, however after reading this I no longer believe in using it again, since apparently "change now" I use what is called "selective scam"

At least you were not robbed just like the OP was. Glad to hear you will stay away from scammers changenow. Please continue to spread the word about them.

It's funny how you ignore my facts here  Grin

I'm sure everybody understands why
49  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 04:21:05 PM
https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-explains-our-stance-on-aml-kyc-d11e7f08123f



I think these scammers take everyone for idiots.

What can these Russians complain about? In what do these miserable cowards accuse me? The fact that I call them Russian scammers who fled their St. Petersburg office and changed their founders? It sounds insulting, yes, but unfortunately this is true and police do not deal with such things  Sad

What did I just on their Medium post? So pathetic conduct by changenow, they stated:

"We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities, along with the info we have on the client and the cold wallet address on which the funds are kept for the time being. After that we are going to wait for their official reply. In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves."

Well, they are preparing legal claims to send to "Interpol, Europol, and other authorities, along with the info we have on the client". I wonder exactly what they will claim against the OP?

They will send the OPs details such as the date, time, IP address and wallet address they received the funds from. Then what?  They have taken this issue so far for no real reason at all and now want to drag this out for as long as possible.

I'm sure they'll submit the fact that he've sent fake ID 2 times and the fact that his transaction is suspicious because of "here should be the reason changenow should know".

For example europol have recently contacted one of my services regarding the nicehash hack. They've provided wallet addresses of the hackers and kindly asked to share all the information about transactions from these addresses to the service.
50  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 03:04:03 PM
https://medium.com/@changenow_io/changenow-explains-our-stance-on-aml-kyc-d11e7f08123f



I think these scammers take everyone for idiots.

What can these Russians complain about? In what do these miserable cowards accuse me? The fact that I call them Russian scammers who fled their St. Petersburg office and changed their founders? It sounds insulting, yes, but unfortunately this is true and police do not deal with such things  Sad



So it will be very interesting to see the result of the investigation.
51  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 01:32:12 PM
Sorry but I must repeat to you:

February: https://web.archive.org/web/20180208161956/https://changenow.io/
March: https://web.archive.org/web/20180317144910/https://changenow.io/  <--- no anonimity
52  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 12:21:05 PM
I think the smartest decision is to find someone to pass KYC instead of OP
53  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 11:32:39 AM
>You traded with them because they claimed to be "anonymous and limitless

Hahaha. Man I posted some facts for you about “anonymity” of the exchanger but are not interested in the truth. It’s always easier  to believe in Santa Claus, of course

February: https://web.archive.org/web/20180208161956/https://changenow.io/
March: https://web.archive.org/web/20180317144910/https://changenow.io/  <--- no anonimity
54  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 10:21:07 AM
Back on topic, I don't agree with the op's behavior, especially sending fake documents, and his lapse in judgment for sending that much to your exchange.

I did not send a fake documents.  I opened a Google images and sent them JPG file like this:

My young cute users, there is not one country in the world where JPG image sent by email could be called a document.



And it was absolutely the right decision. They are not a COMPANY, it's just a bunch of cowardly and dishonest people from Russia.

https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t

Only an idiot can take them seriously. Although I think it would be more correct if I photographed my ass and sent to them - maybe here was my mistake.

What about the second attempt of document forgery? Why don’t you mention it?
55  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 09:01:52 AM
What's wrong? Are you afraid of europol? It's normal reaction on 2 attempts of document forgery and lots of treats and lies in the internet from anonymous troll.

>1. create the impression of an anonymous exchanger

When you visited the site their was no mentioning of anonymity.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180317144910/https://changenow.io/
56  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 07, 2018, 08:18:50 AM
I agree that they could send him coins back before the story with fake IDs. But he has already sent fake ID 2 times! Now it's not a good time to release the funds without submitting the info to interpol.

Interpol? This is an overreaction.

The sender never wanted to send ID so he used an exchange (changenow) that made it clear they would ask for ID as they were "anonymous and limitless". They forced him in to a corner by asking for ID without offering to send his funds back if he did not want to proceed with the transaction. If they wanted ID they should have made it clear before the transaction took place.

I will not use this pathetic changenow exchange and will never recommend it to anybody either. They have ruined their PR by trying to steal the OPs money using a fake reason.

I totally thank and commend the OP for using his own money to buy ads on the thread to tell us all the changenow is a scam.

What’s wrong with you? There is no mentioning of anonymity at their website for a long time.
February: https://web.archive.org/web/20180208161956/https://changenow.io/
March: https://web.archive.org/web/20180317144910/https://changenow.io/  <--- no anonimity

Why are you defending document forgery? It’s a crime
If OP was sure in his rights why did he sent fake ID two times? Fake ID two times man! This is the crime.

Imagine the situation: I come to buy apple in the supermarket and after giving a cash for it the cashier starts asking me for ID, "apple license" and other documents. I'm 100 sure that this action is illegal. I will just call a police or administrator of the supermarket. I will not brake the law myself. I will not fight with cashier, I will not treat the cashier with the gun. It's stupid and illegal.
57  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 06, 2018, 10:50:48 PM
What should the exchange answer? "We caught the user, asked him for KYC

Caught doing what, there seems to be a presumption of guilt with no basis on events or even reasonable suspicion.   We dont convict people of crimes by instantly asking them to prove us wrong in our prejudice against them.   Modern society stopped doing this as a form of justice back when the Witch trials ended and since then its been seen as a mistake to assume malice or criminality by lack of knowledge.   It ends up as nonsense with one section of society highjacking the other.

The exchange returned the funds to sender, simple as that and no further explanation is required as its a reasonable reaction.   They had no reason not to return something not belonging to them and they have no involvement in any transaction or any burden to prove themselves unassociated.    If any details were provided to correlate to a crime then doing otherwise would make more sense

I agree that they could send him coins back before the story with fake IDs. But he has already sent fake ID 2 times! Now it's not a good time to release the funds without submitting the info to interpol.
58  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 06, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
Hello, everyone. We're here to clear everything up. Our automated verification system deemed this user's transaction suspicious, so we asked this user to provide some ID and the source of funds according to KYC guidelines, which, as you might know, every service on the market follows. In response to that, he sent us a fake ID picture which he self-admittedly got off of Google, because he, quote, "didn't take the service seriously". He also failed to provide any coherent information about the source of his funds. He did send us a different ID picture after some more talking to our support, but only after an investigation had been launched.

We mention the fact that we might ask the user to provide identification in case of a suspicious transaction in our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy, which this user also failed to familiarize himself with before using ChangeNOW.

As for the coins that we supposedly "stole": they have been moved to a cold storage where they will remain untouched until the investigation is complete. It’s been a number of times that we actually prevented theft of stolen funds this way. We hope that you understand our tactics and realize that we aren't interested in ripping our customers off just like that. Besides, our support team has repeatedly stated to this user that he will get his funds back after the situation clears up. Good day.

on your website
''Receive your coins
ChangeNOW will find the best rate on one of the ten integrated exchanges, process the transaction and your Ether will be sent to you in a few minutes.
No emails or passwords. No lengthy sign-up process. No accounts. No limits.''
What are you after?


Well this really begins to point more to a scam as the days go by and the OP still has not had his coins returned.

100 BCH is a around 11 BTC and that is a lot of money. The OP did not want to send ID and changenow mad eit clear they would not ask for it (as stated on their website) but the moment the OP sent the coins they asked for ID.

They have a duty to send the coins back to the OP because they received the funds under false representation of their business.

As stated on their website? Really?? Man, they don’t have any mentioning of anonymity for a long time. What are you talking about? Did you see it yourself or you just believe ni23457 and his lies?
59  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 06, 2018, 06:49:27 PM
I've asked friends of mine from Interpol and Europol about this Company. They looked up cases related with this exchange but nothing shows up and this company address is fake. The Russians never ever corporate with Europol and Interpol that's what they told me. I've seen many Cases with russian exchanges and some of them reply Wallet onwer as Donald J Trump.

Hahaha - the most funny bullshit I’ve ever read. Funny shill.

Friends from interpol lol. My friends Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin just called me to conmirm you are the shill of ni23457
60  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). on: September 06, 2018, 02:39:34 PM
Crypto exchangers ask for KYC not because they want to seize someones money but because the really DO receive interpol and europol requests. Nobody wants to deal with interpol and europol.

In this case I think the best solution for OP is to find someone who is ready to pass KYC instead of him (if he is afraid to do it himself).
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