Testing of a core component for OneMarket will begin today:
Anyone who wishes to participate or watch is free to join #OneMarket on freenode IRC. |
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Daily Reminder:
Please don't quote, interact or respond to the trolls such as Drkman.
Will look weird after the posts have been cleaned up. |
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Reminder: Resist temptation of quoting the mindless fudders and trolls.
Makes keeping the thread clean allot easier. |
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PoSA tx when final public version is released, has some advanced features to allow those "extra paranoid users"  a way to raise and lower certain key parameters.
For example.
Bob wants to send 1000 Cloak to Alice but is concerned that despite the fact it cannot be traced directly from A to B it can still be "speculatively" followed with blockchain analysis because it is a large amount.
Bob can choose how many nodes he wishes to split his 1000 cloak, could be 10 could be 15, PoSA does a check to see if the balance is available in these nodes before the tx is permitted and can randomly split accordingly. He can also, if desired, select the amount of blocks he wishes to split the tx out. The higher the values he inputs the more spread out the tx becomes.
For everyday smaller amount this type of advance selecting would not be necessary.
However, for a VERY LARGE tx of say 100K Cloak. An ideal scenario would be to input even higher inputs to the parameters allowing it to take a longer time and being split over many more nodes and blocks. |
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Please help us by reporting FUDDERS and TROLLS to the mods.
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Dearest Cloak Supporters.
Don't quote the trolls.
We'll delete them all day if necessary and report to mods.
All their questions have been answered, they think this is the way to do business.
It's not, hence they are probably in loosing coins with an uphill battle against us  . |
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This is the scamcoin anyway...delivering only centralized features...
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The only thing they would be able to see is Cloaksend 1.0 on public github. Rest assured it has nothing to do with PoSA. |
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We're going to make another diagram to explain this better with visuals. The key is things are being sent to temporary addresses. I'll come up with something better soon.
Think of it like this.
You -> PosA Node #1 -> Receiver (temp address) -> PoSA Node #2 -> Actual Receiver Address
PoSa Node #1 and #2 knows its safe to send to the Receiver temp address because of block escrow, a new transaction in the blockchain that is verified by all peers just like how normal transactions are.
It's ANON because PoSA Node #2 uses different 'cloak' then what he received to send money to you breaking the trace.
You could think of it like this.
Bob has $50, wants to send $50 to alice. All his dollars are tainted with the letter B. If you send the money to alice you can see the B's and you know it's from Bob.
If the money from PoSA Node#2 came from someone else (different traces) and was sent to the receiver it's Anon. Essentially Alice see's money with different letters on it, say C or something.
This is what is happening in the final steps, this does require that the PoSA Nodes actually have the money to send so balance checks would be in place.
Right, if Alice gets her coins from say, Charlie, and the coins have C's on them, this hides the fact that these originated from Bob. But how do you prevent people from following the chain and figuring out who sent coins to Charlie just before he sent some coins to Alice, and finding Bob this way? PoSA anon breaks the chain that you would expect to be able to follow. You just arrive at a dead end meaning it can't be followed. |
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Update:
There's been quite a lot of pressure for us to release in greater details, information about our finished anon product.
The whitepaper was deliberately made sparse to avoid attempts at copying from an early stage.
Cloak PoSA is well advanced now so we can now reveal a more indepth paper that shows how our finished Proof of Stake Anonymity system works.
PoSA is entirely trustless and solves the Byzantine Generals problem.
A first look at CloakPal coming tomorrow. |
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There were over a dozen private beta testers confirming it worked, public beta tests also. Your claiming its a php script or api thing do you have even a tiny piece of proof? No!
They were looking at some code from CloakSend 1.0 which is visable on public githib... We stopped working on that weeks ago and moved onto PoSA. |
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If there are any darkcoin holders in here, please stop fudding and trolling, there is no need for this, lets behave as adults, instead of aggitate cloakcoin holders..
Darkcoin and Cloakcoin aim for becoming anonymous, both in different ways, and whoever chooses what, doesnt matter, the reason people invest in diffferent coins comes from, whichever coin they feel has the best features / future..
I would like to extend an appology to cloakcoin holders / devs for the fud/trolling..
CHAOSiTEC
Appreciated and same the same in return. https://twitter.com/CryptoPioneer/status/493731773805649921 |
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Reminder.
Don't quote the trolls.
Makes keeping this thread clean ALLOT easier. |
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Please stop quoting Drkman, he's been reported to the moderators several times with 100% success rate.
All posts of his posts and anyone quoting him will continue to be removed due to his insistence on trashing talking this thread.
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As so kindly requested, here is a pastebin of the IRC #Cloakcoin chatlogs today. snoopy and MrKK were banned, control F those names and follow the logic as to why that occured. http://pastebin.com/QLYy2uLj |
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I guess there is a trade off with everything.
To be honest, I have not read what drkman has said, so I am not able to come to my own opinion about whether it should have been deleted or not.
This is your thread, so it is in your right to do whatever you want. You are a better mod than 99% of the other ones in the ANN section. You are responsive, thorough, and do not bullshit around.
I am just letting you know that it makes people like me feel uneasy when we read about post deletion.
However, if you feel the negativity caused by it outweighs the uneasiness felt by anons like me... then by all means.. DELETE!!
If you want to see for yourself the kind of posts that get deleted I think https://bitcointa.lk/ keeps a delayed log of everything. Nothing to hide. Just keeping thread clean rather than unfounded trash talk. |
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Hello fellow Cloakcoiners
I hold a lot of Cloak, and I am continuing to buy more during this bull run.
I am extremely optimistic about the future of Cloak, and I believe it will knock Drk off its throne.
However, I have a problem with the post deletion in this thread.
If the product is good, it will win out over time, no matter the FUD. The FUD will only rid Cloak of weak hands, and allow believers to buy in cheaper.
Long term, this FUD will not effect the price. Post deletion, on the other hand, will raise suspicion to future coin holders. What reason do you have to delete the post if you are confident in your product long term?
I for one am a little uneasy about it.
Btctalk has controls in place for flooding, and if someone does anything to outrageous they can be reported to the mods... just please do not delete theirs FUD posts.
One reason. It's makes a terrible read for people looking at our thread. Constructive criticism is always welcome. Deliberate and childish trolling is not. |
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Refrain from quoting the trolls. They are being reported to moderators and posts deleted. Head over to https://bitcointa.lk/ to see the posts we've deleted and decide for yourself. |
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Guys, please don't quote trolls.
Deleting all messages, just as in the past that have secondary and unfounded motivations and reporting to mods.
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Update:
Windows wallet 1.9.7.25 with installer.
Extra debugging has taken place on CloakTrade 1.0 to prevent those unexpected crashes.
Please resist temptation to use PoSA until further notice:
We are still trying different parameters for PoSA node broadcasting.
Reason for making this public atm is that having extra nodes running with 1.9.7.25 on the network can help us to better evaluate in private testing.
1.9.7.25 is very much a beta wallet and should be treated as such.
https://mega.co.nz/#!JMV1gQDC!Nm_b59BYUgNee9OKqXhw2VOHBY8jHQGVfjJsMFvpllo
Note, there is now a new tab in the wallet. |
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