Wa alaikum asalam dear cheema02. apki post padhi lekin kush smj nhi ai. kya ap asan lfzo my smja skty hain please. Mai crypto field my beshk new nhi hoon because pichly kuch 1 2 mah sy kuch time spend kiya hai forum pr or crypto ky bary my kafi kuch seekhny ko bi mila lekin agr community ky bndy hi smja dain to badhi help ho jati hai.

Thanks for sharing this news, yeah apki news and batain kafi achi hain lekin, mai baaz okat khud heran ho jata hoon ky loog khulam khula asy chori kr kaisy lety hain. matlb ky un ky diloo my na koi khofe khuda chlo pakistan ky bary my hi souch lain. Or zayda tr cases main jo log chori kr rhy hain wo belong bi kisi achi family sy krty hain asa nhi hai ky un ky pass paisa nhi hai to wo chori ki trf chl diya.

Bs logo ko haram khany ki adat padh jati hai or wo chori kr ky haram khay bahair sakoon sy nhi rh skty.

Umeed hai mazeed crackdown hongy, even ky utility store pr log phly hi sari cheezain book kr ky bethy hoty hain or apny rishtedaro my taqseem kr dety hain. Or gareeb bnda hath malta rh jata hai. baat wesy total herangi wali hai ky ky sirf 323 cases sy itni badhi amount my chori pakdi gai.


Kya yaha koi saraiki member bi hai?

Are you using the term died metaphorically? I mean BTC did not really dies (become zero) I think you are using it to explain that whenever big dumps came people thought of it as dead. If that's the case, then I am agreed with you. And I will try not to be a part of dumbest people who sold at loss.

Ok, I got the answer here. Well, all I can say is no one can actually time the market. As you said you will be in more profit if you would have bought BTC at the price of $500 instead of $1000 (average). And I am glad you were save from all the scams occurred with those mentioned exchanges. I think you are a man of not become a scam victim to exchanges instead only to yourself or your decisions.
I thought you will not share how much BTC you have because people will start to judge you but I think you do not care about them. Well, I hope you will get the target of 1 BTC soon.
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I would love to hear the plan but I doubt if anyone here having 21 BTC would care to act on that plan but still by sharing plan you might get to know a lot more from other members and members like me could also learn from it. But the invetment is huge here (21 BTC). There must be huge number of people here who might have 21 BTC or dollars worth 21 BTC at the current price.

Talking about BTC price... BTC is going to touch $28k but what it matters for long term holders we are zombie here who do not go after such short meat instead we go after big piece of meat but until then we have to pretend as we are dead as zombies. hehehe.

Wait let me share the graph I am talking about (This reply) and to this reply I posted this

You are saying you made 26x and still saying I have made mistakes along the way. I mean are you even expecting more? Or what I just missed here.

I mean even if the buying of 1 BTC cost you around $1k at an average rate then I think that's a good buying. But still, it really matters how much BTC you have. Not asking just saying.

PS: and did you remember the graph which wind-fury shared, the link of which I gave you, by searching it on the google lens. I found the source to that topic, and it was not intentionally found instead I was reading some topics and one of the OP made a topic by the name of Here is a tight slap to bitcoin haters

Well, that chart was about, all the times in past when many big authorities talked bad about BTC and then BTC turn out to be a charm instead of failure. The thing is BTC really disappoints many people who believed in its failure. The real link to that source is here https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/bitcoin-is-dead/

You are right. At least one person who takes part in it will be free from FOMO. and I do not really think the rich have benefited from the BTC and the poor have not. Because once the poor (with lesser knowledge) came to know about such opportunities, they tend to ignore them, but when the same poor see another fellow poor making his or her life better with that knowledge, which he refused before, they tend not to ignore it but instead gain that knowledge and expect the same results as their fellow poor.

And that's the audacity of the system here. People do not take actions based on others gains; instead, they even do not tend to think before making investments, and another downfall of the poor is that they do not have savings, which means they do not save some money for emergencies. Once they know some other dude made huge profits, they will jump into the market with all of their asses, and at the end, when the market does not go as they have planned, they will have financial problems, and then they will try to survive the trade even with a loss because they will think that saving something rather than losing all is beneficial.

But at the end, we all know patience is also necessary, and that's why we should have funds in case of an emergency. I also learned that from an expert with more than 20 years of experience.

But if we try to teach the kids only same language or try to change the curriculum at big level for example in different tribes then they all will go against this idea. Just like many people who support Pride flag while some not so many schools try to promote it but when parents got aware of it, they went against it. I did not mean to go against any group either it's supporting pride flag or not. I am just using it as an example to make my words clearer.

I think instead of making a unified language to solve tribalism, the best way is to teach children at schools or at any social event that we all are equal, and we all have equal rights, and we should support each other, and we should not make decisions (biased) on the basis of tribalism. I have a slight idea as tribalism is not something old many countries have faced it and they have overcome it too, but many countries are facing old and new tribalism events.

I think it will be way better to teach them about equal rights and self-awareness and how they could grow if they back each other up.

PS: I do not belong to this board but dear Oduho I have read many valuable posts of you on thread, so during a visit to your profile I saw this thread and I could not stop myself to share my ideas but If you guys think I should not have interfere then I am more than sorry as this is a local discussion and I am not a local here so I hope I will be forgiven.

I think we should begin to think like adults now. As giving ideas and then pointing the flaws out of them are not going to help the OP. And to be honest I do not think OP is going to read all the replies but still he is doing then, he should search for a lawyer or a trust party whom he can give the responsibility of dividing heir in his Childs. But the best practice is (if the children are adults) to divide the heir by himself.

But if they are still child as in your examples then he should hire a middleman or a trust lawyer whom he could give the responsibility of diving the heir equally. But sometimes those middlemen turn up as the biggest scammers and they do not do as they are agreed. So, to avoid that, buy a Hardware wallet and give it to that middleman and tell him it is a USB which contains my last message for my kids. You have to give this USB only when I am gone, and they have become adults. To back this story up and put some extra spice he could buy 1 Hardware wallet and 1 real USB and market USB as 1 and HW as 2 and could say the middlemen that he has to give my Childs the instructions that they should play the video by USB first and in that USB, father could save the Video. Now there are many problems to this method too as if middleman watched the video, he will know what is going on here and that middleman might become greedy. So, find a trustworthy man to handover the heir agreements of BTC.

PS: I think now I began to think like child here. But the real problem is when the Childs are young and not old enough to receive the funds, so the best thing is to lock them even the Childs have to wait for 4 extra years. As it will be a good point for the child as in next four years a halving will came and those BTC will have even more value.

Totally agree with both of you. I mentioned before that a friend in my circle have some money and he asked me either I should take entry or wait for the market to come down. I suggest him to take entry but what he did waited more and now he things market will come down more. But the problem is he wanted to accumulate for longer period of time.

So I said if you really wanted to book profit when BTC will near to new ATH then you should not worry about the current market situation instead you should jump in. Well, I am also not an expert and I have told him that, maybe that's why he is not listening to me.

I learnt few new things like DCA, Lump sum and buying at dips and what actually DCA is and which is more beneficial under which circumstances (like Having big amount of money means you should do Lump Sum with some of your money and then use some of the amount for DCA and some for the dips). And I had not told him yet about my new learning. I will try to teach him what I learnt but the point is I got sad and angry too when he ignores me.

Although we all have the mentality of my friend, as we all wanted to take entry at the lowest point possible at which market could go by market, I mean BTC. I hope he will eventually understand the opportunities he is missing but I do not want that for him.

I'm happy that the website I shared will be of use to you. And really, the website you was using has only options to select only years in accumulation tab.

Calculations really were difficult but basically you were trying to explain three stages which you explained before first is buying at dips, doing DCA and lump sum. And based on different factors like what are the goals of one person to achieve with his investments and how much he is trying to hold and how much savings he has at the start. Such factors will drive him to select any of the two options (DCA or Lump Sum) and in you example he had $6k out of which he lump sum $2k and DCA $2k and saved $2k for dip. Thanks for all the explanations.

One more thing which I have learnt from your explanations is "Emergency Funds" are necessary like aggressive investing in BTC will definitely end up investor in bad situations. So, I will also keep the Emergency fund allocation in mind. Thanks a lot for all the details dear.

ha-ha, No No, I will not blame anyone because I am/will be the one who is responsible for my own acts. As I am a conscious adult, and I do know (to some extent) what might be good and what might be not. And One of my cousins used to say: "Only Listen to what other says never act upon their words instead use your own mind to make decisions." And I am using that formula in my life from very long ago.


Got the point dear, as you said, you do no need to do rebalancing because your portfolio is increasing (means you do not intend to keep your portfolio constant instead you just doing DCA and increasing it).

Got it.

I am happy you achieved your targets but after reading your reply I began to think You must be one of the top 1 richest people in the world as you have such an entrepreneur mindset, and you must have gained a lot from BTC and other diversified portfolios. One of my friends have that investing mindset, He always says do not rely on one investment or one source of income, instead we should expand our income sources. And I was like Ok, to be honest I even motivated by him to some extent. But after seeing how much you must have gain even not knowing your age, not knowing your agendas etc. etc. I am really inspired by the way you think to enhance money. And you must have a lot of patience too because many just wanted to become rich overnight.

Then you should really read them back as I will be very honest with you here, that you use a lot of words to explain things while you know could be done in lesser, but I can understand the optimism and love you have for others to learn. I pray you will grow more with that mindset.

PS: I did not read the Thread you provided till now, but I have bookmarked it and will go through it. Thanks for that too.

Got the point here, As JJG also tried to emphasize the same thing before, and I got this point from there already but thanks to you too as conditions are not same for everyone as I do not know what the conditions of your country are but the conditions here in mine are too bad. Political leader are next lever corrupt people and those who raise voice are put in jail even our Ex-Prime Minister is put in jail and those who went against that case also put in the jail. TBH things in my country got out of hand. But still, the party which put all of them in jail are now enjoying in UK.

Enjoying their time with girls, point is they could do whatever they want but at least they should provide a voice of freedom. Not to mention media is their pet. Well, I think things are going off topic here as I do not know if I should discuss that much about my country. But my main point was to say things are not easy here and as JJG was saying he has done aggressive accumulation back in 2014 and 2015 and If I was aware of the BTC at that time then it would be easy to accumulate them in compared to this time.

Overall, I did get the point that Lump Sum need big money while DCA could be done using small amounts too, but DCA took long time to book profit while in Lump Sum we could also make instant or quick profit in shorter time.

Ok I got that, and I did not get into accumulation yet as I shared my situation before with you on this same thread. Well, but if I compare the mindset I had back when I was new here with the mindset I have now, I am more confident about BTC thanks to this thread and specifically to you. (not buttering as members started to criticize in humorous way in WO). And I will start to accumulate BTC soon and I will share the stats with you. But to clarify, I got your point here and from maintenance, did you mean rebalancing? Like first you did aggressive accumulation and then you started to maintain your portfolio is that what you mean by maintenance.

Well, if those normies are taught by a person who have the 20 years of experience then those normies also hold the 20 years of experience. Well, technically that's not possible and I know that but metaphorically a normie who taught or got lessoned from a person having 20 years of experience at least say that I have that much experience but still I am really impressed that you are into investment even before BTC and I think that's why you must came to know about BTC too.

PS: Well, if you do not mind how old are you? You can ignore the question too and I really wanted to know how you got into BTC.
I mean you are talking with many members on different topics and writing that long replies to everyone, even if forget sometimes what I have said to someone so before reading the replies I try to read mine first. Hehe. TBH, I have short memory and I can bet you don't have that problem. And that's a good thing. But still repeating is Ok for me and I appreciate as you could also ignore it as it could save you time but repeated it.

Got the point and of course when I used that tool (calculator to calculate DCA) I select the frequency first to week and investment to $10 only and I was on lose according to that tool when I set the start date of 2 months ago. Well, the point is the frequency of investing in BTC by doing DCA do provide us the benefit that if we do not have enough funds to invest all at once.

Means, let's say if the investment become $5k by doing DCA and if we have enough funds at the start then we might have preferred to do Lump Sum. But as I do not have that much money at the start so I should prefer to enter the market with less too. I totally got the point here too. And also, I think one might not like DCA while other could.

You have abled to pound the whole definitions and differences nicely in my mind because now I totally understand what makes DCA strict one and fancy one. Totally got the idea and thanks for the easy explanation too. Really appreciate.

PS: just thinking the advice like the three options you mentioned in the second scenario which are Lump sum, DCA and buying on Dips. I mean no offense, but do you also follow these same norms of investing. Means, aren't you are sharing VIP tips to everyone.

Got it.
I already got this point as you explained it with examples in this same reply, Now I understand what strict, soft or hybrid DCA means.
Yeah, I was also looking for an article to read more explanation about the graph but sad I did not find any so I think sharing it might help but still some explanation is must for people like me. Thanks a lot, to you for helping for solving confusions.

Basically, what you guys are discussing here is, either an aged person should learn new skills, or adopt new technology. We tend to have these types of thoughts because we know they are at the end of their age and who knows how many days they have left. But I have a strong belief about we should not think that because even we do not have the full surety that either we are going to live another day or not. But still, we wake up and try to make efforts to make a good living for ourselves and for our loved ones.

Point is it does not matter either one person is aged or just a young one they should learn new skills; they should adopt new technologies like BTC. Meaning in the journey of experiencing new technologies people always started to make money so there is not point remains of discussing either one enters BTC to make money while lesser enter BTC to experience it. TBH, who enters it once and experience it then it must have become difficult for them to leave it.

I just experienced an example of such young and aged people, I actually taking some course of online money making and in one of the curse two people one is around 17 years old, and one is 75 years old, and they both are learning the skill from the same teacher. Means sometimes it looks so strange but those who have passion to learn new things should not worry about their end days. I mean to say they should not think we will die tomorrow so left the option of investing in BTC as we might not be there to get benefit from the profit. Ok if you want to get benefit then donate the profit to any charity made from BTC. How will one do that. He could write a will or anything similar or could hire a Lawer for that.

Got it, We should do DCA for the long run and for the short term we should do lump sum because I have found one calculator to calculate what results we might get if we have done lump sum or DCA. Well, here is the site Not trying to promote it here instead sharing for info only. https://dcacryptocalculator.com/bitcoin

Well, I have got some results by entering some dates and in the last 6 months we make profit only if we have done lump sum but by doing DCA we might lose the asset's value. The thing is, accumulating is all matter as you said so I think I am agree with you.

Means We both are on the same page regarding to this knowledge only. And I hope to get more valuable resources to read like these from you. Do you have any good resources to know more about BTC Blockchain infrastructure like the main components. I know the video in the article is also good, but I am more interested in reading instead of watching.

Agreed to the point that DCA method is not same for everyone even I can say for sure one might be following the same rule which you shared but they might not be aware of the fact that other are also aware or at least have name for such methods. Like the "order size" and "deviation multiplier" etc. And thanks for shedding light on my question.

What factors makes one DCA strategy strict one and fancy one. Are these two mentioned ways of DCA are strict or Fancy one. Because from what I have learnt in the short period is in DCA we do not put all of our money at once just like we do in lump sum instead we try to time the market or at least to increase the profit on our holding to get our hands on more Satoshi.

And I read some articles too about DCA types, but I did not find any, but I do find an advice that we should do DCA only in those assets or in only those investments which are for longer period of time.

Understood your points here. In short, I understand that every situation has different DCA strategies. Like when we have more fiat, less fiat, price is on it ATH in some specific time period etc. And thanks for the assistance too.

https://zurichcryptojournal.com/how-many-time-has-bitcoin-be-called-dead/

I do not know if dear Wind_FURY has downloaded the image from the following website or not, but I found it using google lens and google lens helped me a lot in giving online tests. Even in the assignments of making apps in java they gave us diagrams and all I do is use google lens and then upload that image to find out that from which website they have picked the picture and once I able to find the source then it became super easy for me to copy the code. I know that's not a good way, but assignments take huge time and while we have our hands on full of assistance then i do not hesitate to use them Hehe.

TBH, I did not realize DCA have types. Because I have been advice by legendary members that we should do DCA to get more Coins. But I never heard about types of DCA. And after reading these, I can say, each person can come up with their own DCA strategy which might suits them best. Like if to some person this DCA deviation multiplier is not working fine then they go after the second one. But One thing I did not understand there is what does the meaning of "Base order" here. I hope someone would shed a light on it please.

Means he knows the difference between Trading and Holding Because at first case he is holding which will provide him good results IMO. I think you should ask your friend to share the stats of 2 years trading and Holding in BTC. And you should compare which was profitable. In my thoughts, the holding will be more profitable.

I read your previous discussions and after reading the reply of Furious in previous page, I began to think should we even do DCA in dumps like these because we knew this is the lowest BTC could go. But if we do not know either it's the lowest or not then it is always a good strategy to save some fiat to enter to buy more Satoshi in dips. But still, I think DCA is not something a strict rule which we should follow like we could make decisions of taking entries with the sensitivity of market.

Let's say we have still $1000 in savings even after doing the DCA when the BTC is at $20k and after some bad news or whatever reason BTC again touches $17k or $18k then I think the wise decision would be to put all $1000 into the market instead still doing DCA at that moment.

I read the whole article and it was super interesting and informative too. The result of that article which I concluded is: Anyone could make transactions, anyone could make blocks, anyone could do mining, blockchain does not care either those transactions or blocks have anything to do with good or bad purpose or use cases. All blockchain's nodes matters is of transactions is invalid then they will not send it to the next 8 peers and if one keep making invalid transactions then that address will be banned automatically to avoid spamming. And same mechanism goes for Blocks. Like people could make only heading or header name for a new block but to proof that either the work has been done or not the Proof of Work (POW) is confirmed by confirming the hash number with special numbers (special numbers that are used in the YT Video included in that article).

If the work is done, then the block is validated by nodes and the data is send to others for validation otherwise if it is invalid then it is not shared in the network. Overall, there is no single entity could judge why the transaction is being made but all that matters here is either the transaction or blocks are validated or following the rules or not if not then they will not be added if yes then they will be added. Please correct me if I took the conclusion wrong here.

Exactly, why they stand still while people with unique IQ (unique means high) tend not to live a life of dumb one obviously. Everyone wants to make new innovations, startups, new technologies will keep coming until the end of life. That's what I am saying, because everyone has some desire some purpose.

I would love to read those studies and looking forward to your reply with data. And that's for sure that only the elites have filled their bags with money while only the middle ones suffered because I watched a video on IG, in which a long hair dude was explaining how the big organizations like the medical ones made billions of dollars.

That's true even in the race of becoming rich people do bad things they do not care about the work or words they make could put which type of impact on others. All they care about is Money and to live a life they dream of. TBH, i have no dream of buying sports cars, living in big houses in fact i fear big houses because there is so much loneliness in them. But i love games, love to sit in friends, love to talk with them how we can become rich one day (hehe) yeah but without dreams. Other than that, i am just passing my time here. Well, we should care about others because not everyone living the same life as we are.

I am happy that BTC changes your life and helped you a lot and i think it will help me too because it really opens many doorways not only to finance but to innovation too. And i do know about sin and the biggest factor behind SIN is also desired to do things. You mentioned Adam and EVE, i have belief on them. DID you know what was the first murdered in this world it was the child of Adam and Eve one killed another for desire of girl if i am recalling the story right? Sorry if i did not recalled it right because i read it a long time ago. And in the last paragraph you talked about Atom bomb like you just watched Oppenheimer movie. Hehe i did not watched it but i think the answer is relatable because what urges Oppenheimer to make Atom bomb and what actually urges Nolan to make that movie which will work as salt in injuries for those who have bear pain and lose a lot. I did not watch the movie but from short clips on social media accounts i can say, they manipulated movie in a way that Oppenheimer did not actually want to make and instead he was forced. I might be wrong here too as i said i did not watched the movie.