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41  Economy / Reputation / Re: The science behind Poker Player, Vod, and JollyGoods Destruction. on: June 06, 2024, 12:22:56 PM
Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are skeptical of UMG. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're trying to pass off your opinions as "science" without providing any credible evidence or research to back up your claims. That's an insult to the entire scientific community, fam. There's no science behind your attack, just a bunch of empty words and personal attacks.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without evidence, but you're doing the exact same thing to others who are promoting a different platform. You're accusing them of being biased, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform. That's just hypocrisy, bro.

You're trying to defend UMG by saying it's an all-in-one platform that allows users to trade, gamble, and play the lottery at the same time, but that just sounds like a recipe for disaster. And your "luck-based system" explanation is just a bunch of nonsense, dude. It's not a real system, it's just a way to make people think they have a chance to win.

And let's not forget, you're accusing others of participating in drug activity and having impaired judgment, just because they're skeptical of UMG. That's a low blow, bro. You're not even trying to address the concerns people have, you're just trying to discredit them.

I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think UMG is a scam, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. Instead of trying to attack me or others, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do.

But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website. You can't just silence critics by attacking them, bro. That's not how it works.


I am glad you made this thread! Good now we can get to the bottom of it!

Likewise, here let me post something to really put the nail in the coffin, bro!

I acted out, because this user keeps abusing his DT, and no one will do anything about.

He cannot abuse DT; that is a paradox.  PP abuses DT.  PP is no longer on DT.  PP no longer abuses DT.   PP is back on DT.

Default Trust is a politics game.  Unless you are protected, you cannot continue to do disagreeable actions and not face consequences.   Therefore, most people must agree with his feedback.   Try changing your attitude.

It's not about my attitude.

You and I were on good terms, until you negatively rated me, without asking any questions.

I don't understand, how users can expect to evolve, if they don't allow the flowers to blossom.

You all are bees, so spread your pollen.

Don't be wasp's and sting everything you see.

Likewise, I still don't understand, how you can negatively rate, and disagree with, someone about a topic without having any experience in the field whatsoever.

I'm talking about you Vod.

What gave you the say so, to call a professional gambler, a liar, when you have never gambled before?

I am a professional gambler, because I work in the backend, and know how gambling software works, likewise, I know how to improve gambling software as well..

This is not on me, this is on you vod.

You never asked me any questions, to prove you had a reason to negatively flag me.

And when you did ask me questions, it was never that of any showing you were trying to give me a chance, to explain my reasoning, to the guaranteed way to win, in my software.

The questions you asked me, prove that you were inexperienced in the subject, and were challenging, an experienced user about claims you could not prove were wrong.

When you asked me questions, it was never you trying to prove, your point was valid.

When you asked me questions, you were never trying to prove, that your negative trust against me was valid.

Because you did not know the correct questions to ask in the first place, to prove your point that your negative rating was true.

So if you cant prove your negative rating is true because of inexperience, why are you negatively rating someone in the first place, damaging them? You can't prove your claims. (Abuse of DT) You don't have evidence to back your claims. And you have never been a solid figure in this field, so stop damaging the field for users who have been solid figures.

You have no place, to call me out, and ruin opportunities for other gamblers. You are not a gambler. You just need to monitor my activity, and ask questions if you are interested, as a veteran member, who is trusted. Don't go inserting yourself, into complex equations, you don't have the capability to solve. Likewise, while starting a whole nother project, and leaving me to deal with all the chaos you have caused. You don't even have time to prove that what you are saying is correct... Why even put us both in this position in the first place?

So now, you as someone who is not a gambler, making claims, for a gambler, in awe of you not knowing the severity and the magnificence of the project you are viewing, you are making irrational claims, like I am deluded, and delusional, convincing other users this is true, as you are a trusted person in the community. This is moving people away from UMG, back into the casinos. When in reality, I am the leading pioneer of the gambling and trading market and users need to be interacting with UMG, for safer, more lucrative options while gambling.

(Moral of the story, is, you are already inexperienced with gambling, what makes you think you can make assertations, about something complex in gambling, when you have never even gambled before... You shouldn't tell me or others what is possible and impossible, when you are completely unaware of what is possible and impossible.)  This is the equivalent, to you trying to skip to college, and you have not even made it to high school yet. You are not ready! To discuss these things! You are not educated enough!






Enjoy that science!

Furthermore, it is 2024.

Nobody is going to try and scam, you with the name Unlimited Money Generator.

I don't think there is anyone dumb enough to do that, in general.

WOW

WOW

If it was an actual "unlimited money generator" then you wouldn't need customers! You'd just be using it yourself, make a pile of money, and then retire without bugging us. It would make life a lot easier for you and everyone who has to read your words.

Nobody here is going to be your customer. We've seen it all, a hundred times before, and we're not interested. Just accept that and move on.


Unlimited Money Generator, is an Unlimited Money Generator for a user, inserted into a booming economy.

Just like your job is an Unlimited Money Generator....

You can not generate the money without them giving you a job, and you having value, in the field versus other players.

In essence, me giving you all the platform, to trade in, allows you to profit in an economy. This is normal world things.

Unlimited Money Generator, modern term, now evolve, and adapt!

GluttonyY, are you literally kidding me with your latest response? You're trying to justify Unlimited Money Generator (UMG) by comparing it to a job, but that's a literally laughable analogy. A job provides value to an employer in exchange for a fixed salary, whereas UMG promises an unrealistic rate of return with no clear explanation of how it generates value. Literally, it's like you're trying to spin straw into gold.

You're literally confusing a platform with a magical money-making machine. In a real economy, value is created through innovation, hard work, and competition. UMG's promises literally defy these principles.

And let's not forget, you literally supported the flag that labeled UMG as a scam. It seems you're now trying to backtrack and justify it with flawed economic arguments. I urge you to literally get a grip on reality and understand the differences between value creation and unsustainable get-rich-quick schemes.
42  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 06, 2024, 12:16:03 PM
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Ditec, nobody can even have a normal conversation , with you your just spamming. I just explained the provably fair on your thread, what the hell are you talking about. Go read, because your not reading, your just ranting. So I am not going to read anything your saying, until you read what I said. You just spamming while I am sleep with a whole bunch of bullshit, bro.

Literally just explained everything on your thread, gotta be joking, kid.

I am not reading anything you are saying bro, I promise you.

GluttonyY, are you kidding me? You're accusing me of spamming and not reading your posts, but it's clear you're just trying to dodge my scam report. I've read every single one of your responses and I'm still not buying what you're selling.

Your "explanations" are just a bunch of vague promises and buzzwords. You're not providing any real evidence or transparency, and it's obvious you're trying to distract from the real issues with UMG.

I'm actually pretty angry that you're falsely accusing me of not reading your posts. I've taken the time to carefully read and respond to each of your points, and it's clear you're not interested in having a real conversation.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not backing down from saying it. Your platform is built on false promises and misleading claims, and you're trying to take advantage of people's trust. Stay away from UMG, folks, and support my flags against UMG owners and promoters!

Who are you to tell anyone what to do. You are just an account with 10 posts, all regarding me on the Bitcoin Talk Forum..

Your posts hold no weight, but I am still hearing you out.

Your just screaming though, your not really providing anything relative.

I mean at the bare minimum, you have not proven your opinion is that of substance.

I have created a crypto currency, exchange, and a gambling platform, that is a competitor to the leading crypto casinos, all in the timespan of 6-8months, I mean bare minimum, my word holds more weight than yours.

Users just wanna see what you say, and how I handle it. And if I am legit/
 
But I will have to show them, if you act like a idiot, there is no hope for you.

Users, just want to see if UMG, is real or not. Once it is confirmed, I mean, you have gambling X10 at your fingertips, Mate.

I am hearing you out, and I was trying to hear you out. But your responses make it hard, 'Hey Gluttony, you are a liar', 'Hey @Gluttony, Your deflecting your lying'

Like mate. Who the hell are you talking to? Cause you aren't talking to me.

Might be the other Gluttony.

I gotta say, your response is a whole lotta sidestepping and not a lot of real talk. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to discredit me because I only have 10 posts (btw, it's 27, but who's counting?). Newsflash: the number of posts doesn't determine the validity of someone's argument. If that were the case, spammers would be the most credible people on the internet.

And speaking of posts, you only have 99 posts yourself. Not exactly a veteran of the forum, are you? But I digress.

You say my posts hold no weight, but I think any sane person would disagree. I've provided a detailed report on why UMG is a scam, and you've responded with... well, not much of anything concrete.

Now, you claim to have created a crypto currency, exchange, and gambling platform in 6-8 months. That's quite a feat, if true. But where's the beef? You can't just throw out a claim like that and expect people to take your word for it. Show us the goods, dude.

And let's be real, if UMG was legit, sane people wouldn't bother trying it out. It sounds too good to be true, and we all know what they say about that.

Lastly, I gotta say, you're literally a glutton for trying to scam people's time and money. It's like you're addicted to taking advantage of others. Get a new hobby, dude.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

Says the user, who starts and ends his passages, the same way everytime, 'fluff'

Anyways, uh, you going on delusional rampages now, here is my crypto currency exchange allowing users, to deposit bitcoin and withdraw , their winnings from umglitch to bitcoin - unlimitedmoneygroup.com

Here is my website, allowing users, to gamble with 99.9% RTP unlimitedmoneyglitch.com

There are two websites, so users can play without KYC.


GluttonyY, instead of attacking my writing style, let's focus on the substance. You've provided two website links, but they don't address the concerns about Unlimited Money Generator (UMG) being a scam. You've failed to provide credible explanations or evidence to support your platform's legitimacy.

Ironically, you previously supported the flag that labeled UMG as a scam. It seems you're now trying to backtrack and distract us with claims of allowing users to play without KYC verification. If you're confident in your platform's legitimacy, address the specific concerns raised by the community and provide transparent explanations. Until then, your attempts to deflect attention will only further erode your credibility.
43  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this guy allowed to constantly break the rules? on: June 06, 2024, 12:06:57 PM
Bruh, spamming ain't okay anywhere, whether it's this forum, TikTok, or anywhere else. Saying UMG is 'complex' is just a way to hide that it's a scam. And let's be real, your platform doesn't 'save lives' unless you're referring to people saving themselves from suicide after losing money and time on UMG. Stop the nonsense
In other social media where they don't check more often with the way people post and share information, spamming might be said not to be allowed, but it exists in there since there are no real human moderators going through those spam posts. 
 
With the way that guy is talking, it is clear that all that he is looking for is a way to attract people to his scam site. There is no one going to be saved there, whether he is trying to scam gamblers all in the name of promising them redemption or just attracting them to his fake money generator site for traffic shake.


Shutup, idiot. Yea crypto battles are a scam! Traffic shake, diamond milkshake.

Cyrus, I am asking you please ban me from the forum.

I have abused several, rules, and cannot contain myself, from these filthy users, degrading my platforms.



It's ironic that you previously acknowledged UMG's scam nature by supporting the flag, yet now you're lashing out at others. It seems you're the one struggling to contain yourself. And let's be real, nobody's bothering to degrade your platform because most people either avoid it altogether or run away after seeing how fucking ugly and shady it looks.
44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Alert: "Unlimited Money Generator" Website on: June 06, 2024, 12:00:34 PM
Shoutout to everyone supporting the flag against Unlimited Money Generator, it's great to see the community do something to warn others about these scams! Even the owner/promoter themselves are acknowledging it's a scam, lol.
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Alert: "Unlimited Money Generator" Website on: June 05, 2024, 08:48:41 PM
Can you use this scam report format, and update it in the first post?

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

Also, post the website address. I can't find for sure which site you mean. It makes things even more difficult because the user you are pointing to is on ignore for me, which is also invisible to me.
It is quite possible that you are right and that it is a fraudster, but we cannot tag someone based only on assumptions and without clear evidence of fraud or at least the intention of fraud.

Thanks for the suggestion on the scam report format! Appreciate it, dude. I've already included the website address in my original report: unlimitedmoneyglitch.com. You can check it out and see the red flags for yourself. Hit me up if there's anything else I need to do.
46  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:40:17 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.


Oh, you wanna slap me? Well, let me tell you, there are plenty of people who'd love to slap you too - for promoting this UMG scam and taking advantage of innocent people. You're not the victim here, dude.

And btw, if everything I say goes in one ear and out the other, that's because you're too busy counting your dirty money to actually listen. You're not even trying to defend your scam with actual facts, you're just getting mad because you're getting called out.

So, go ahead and get mad, but at the end of the day, you're the one who's promoting a scam and making a fool of yourself. And I'm gonna keep calling you out for it.

Keep calling it out, your a new account, and your only posts are directed towards me.

You could be a competitor, trying to default my business..

Who says your word holds any weight?

Likewise, if you don't want users to be quote on quote 'scammed' Then stop bringing me attention, by spamming all of my threads.

If I am a scam, you are only helping me.

Dude, you're still stuck on the fact that I'm a new account and I'm focusing on UMG? Like, who cares? If I'm exposing a potential scam, that's a good thing, right?

And, let's be real, if I were a competitor trying to take down UMG, I'd be going after the big dogs like Meta Win, Stake, BC.Game, or Bitsler. I wouldn't waste my time on literally rural service like UMG.

Only you think my word has no weight, bro. The community can see the evidence I've presented and make their own decisions.

And, newsflash, me calling out UMG doesn't help you scam people. If anything, it warns them about potential risks. You can't blame me for trying to protect people from getting scammed.
47  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 05, 2024, 08:26:59 PM
Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.


Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not copy-pasting my messages, I'm sharing my concerns about UMG with the community. If you actually read my statements, you'd get it. Instead, you're trying to discredit me with personal attacks.

You say I'm confusing everyone, but it's you who's creating smoke and mirrors around UMG's shady stuff. I've pointed out clear red flags, and you're not addressing them.

You think I'm inexperienced, but that's not an argument. I've done my research and raised valid concerns about UMG's "Provably Fair" system, their unpro website, and their unrealistic promises. You're the one who's not providing any evidence.

And btw, 99.9% RTP rate is not how it works. That's just crazy high, and you know it. If you're gonna defend UMG, at least be honest about their practices.

I don't need to learn how to spot a scam. I've done my homework, and I'm warning others about UMG. You're the one who needs to step back, reflect on your actions, and think about the harm you might be causing by promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

And then, it's like your a robot, every message, is the same format, without you properly, digesting the information.

Yes the RTP is crazy high, but there is nothing illegal going on.

Like I said, maybe the rtp will go down to 99%, but I have designed the system in a genius manner, to where it can operate with 99.9% RTP, and be sustainable.

You are significantly behind, theoretically, you are not able to digest these concepts yet, it may take a couple of days, for you to completely get your head around it.

But in pvp games, the rtp can be whatever you want, and it will not affect you, unless you have to pay for your website or something.

I mean, of course, the rtp is high as hell, it wouldn't be called Unlimited Money Generator if the rtp wasn't so high, and it couldn't function that way longterm.

Why do you think its called 'Unlimited Money Generator' - That's the point, its an impressive application hands down, don't try to trick yourself, into thinking its a facade.

We can within 5 minutes, tell this is something special.

Likewise, the website is not special. The backend is special. Versus casinos, where the website is special, and the backend is not special.

So which would you rather have, something that looks like shit, allowing you to do great things.

Or, something that looks great, but screws you over in the end.

Your choice.

There is nothing wrong, with your concerns, you just need to approach the situation better, and stop spamming in all angles to get your point -across, like I made this mistake of doing in the past.

and I am UMG, I am being honest about everything. It has a 99.9% RTP.

I gotta say, I'm impressed by your confidence in defending UMG, but unfortunately, your arguments just don't add up.

First off, let's talk about that crazy high RTP of 99.9%. You claim it's sustainable, but I've got news for you: it's literally impossible. In any gambling system, the RTP is a measure of how much money the house expects to make in the long run. A 99.9% RTP means the house is literally giving away almost all the money, which is absurd.

Think about it like this: if a casino had a 99.9% RTP, they'd be losing money hand over fist. They'd literally go bankrupt in no time! And yet, you're saying UMG can maintain this ridiculous RTP without going under? It defies basic economic principles.

Now, you might say, "But wait, UMG takes a 0.1% fee from all the money available!" Ah, nice try, but that's just a clever way of saying they're still making money off users. You can't just magic up a system where everyone wins and the house doesn't lose. It's a zero-sum game, my friend!

And let's not even get started on the "Unlimited Money Generator" part. Common sense dictates that there's no such thing as unlimited money. If it were possible, it would cause massive inflation, making the money literally worthless. Nobody would use it!

You also mentioned that in PvP games, the RTP can be whatever you want. Sorry, but that's not how it works. In any game or system, the RTP is determined by the underlying mechanics, not by some arbitrary number you pull out of thin air.

Lastly, I've got to say, your "backend is special" argument is just a bunch of fluff. If the website looks unprofessional and lacks transparency, that's a major red flag. You can't just wave your hand and say, "Oh, the backend is literally where the magic happens!"

Look, I'm not trying to be harsh, but as an expert in these fields, I've got to call out the flaws in your arguments. UMG just doesn't add up, and it's not because I'm "significantly behind" or need a few days to "digest" the concepts. It's because the math just doesn't work.

So, I'll leave you with this: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. There's no such thing as unlimited money, and any system claiming otherwise is likely a scam.
48  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:17:18 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

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Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.

I don't even know what to say to a person like you.

Part of me want's to reach through the computer screen and slap you.

Everything just goes in one ear out the other.

And then you will start harassing me on all topics, starting soon.


Oh, you wanna slap me? Well, let me tell you, there are plenty of people who'd love to slap you too - for promoting this UMG scam and taking advantage of innocent people. You're not the victim here, dude.

And btw, if everything I say goes in one ear and out the other, that's because you're too busy counting your dirty money to actually listen. You're not even trying to defend your scam with actual facts, you're just getting mad because you're getting called out.

So, go ahead and get mad, but at the end of the day, you're the one who's promoting a scam and making a fool of yourself. And I'm gonna keep calling you out for it.
49  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 08:07:03 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.


My friend, if I put you in a booming economy, with a source to make money consistently. What the hell, do you call that? An Unlimited Money Generator!

My friend, you having a job in an economy is an UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR. I.E ditec, got a job at mcdonalds, all he has to do is go to work everyday and he gets paid. You do that for free. it is an unlimited money generator, and it cost you your time, which is free. There are many Unlimited Money Generator's you just don't realize it.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IS AN ECONOMY. BECAUSE.......

THE RTP IS 99.9%, THIS MONEY IS NOT LEAVING THE PLAYERS, IT IS GOING BACK TO THE PLAYERS..

You are acting like the money is leaving the game, no the money is still there, you just have to find a way to get it.

Likewise, creating an economy, where users keep investing, because they are getting paid!! MAKING THE ECONOMY EVEN BIGGER!

99.9% RTP, is allowing users to get paid, allowing users to profit. The money is not leaving the system. It is going to different players.

Align yourself, with the rewards of the system, you will get paid consistently.

I tested these theories for months.

There are no shady practices.

UMG, is a way for you to make money.

Whether you do it, gambling, trading, or playing the lottery, or both. Or staking. Or pvping. Whatever you wanna, do just know there is no limitation or rules.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR IN SO MANY WAYS.

ONE WAY - THERE IS NO MAX WIN, BECAUSE THE MAX WIN IS DETERMINED, BY HOW MUCH MONEY WAS PUT IN THIS SYSTEM.

HENCE - XINF MAX WIN

THERE IS NO MAX WIN.

THERE ARE NO RULES, BEAT PLAYERS HOW EVER MANY TIMES YOU WANT.

SELL PREDICTIONS TO OTHER USERS.

UNLIMITED MONEY GENERATOR.

I should say, your response is a whole lotta car spin and not a lot of real point. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to redefine what an Unlimited Money Generator is. Newsflash: just because you have a job and get paid doesn't mean it's an Unlimited Money Generator. That's just called having a job, dude. And yeah, it costs you your time, but that's not the same as getting free money out of thin air.

And then you start talking about the RTP (return to player) being 99.9%. Okay, let's assume that's true (which I highly doubt). That doesn't mean the money is just circulating back to the players. It means the system is designed to take a cut of the money, and the rest goes back to the players. That's not an Unlimited Money Generator, that's just a fancy way of saying "we're gonna take a commission".

You keep saying that users can make money by investing and getting paid, but that's not how it works. If it were that easy, everyone would be rich by now. You're not creating a sustainable economy, you're creating a Ponzi scheme where early adopters get paid by later adopters.

And what's with the "align yourself with the rewards of the system" thing? That sounds like some kinda cult speak. You're not offering a legitimate way to make money, you're offering a way to get caught up in a scam.

You claim to have tested these theories for months, but where's the proof? Where's the data? You can't just throw out claims like that and expect people to take your word for it.

And let's be real, if Unlimited Money Generators were real, wouldn't governments be all over it? I mean, wouldn't they be promoting it as a way to boost their country's economy? But no, you don't see any government reports or initiatives on Unlimited Money Generators, even when their economy is booming. That's because it's a myth, a scam, a way to take advantage of people's desperation.

Lastly, you're trying to make it sound like UMG is some kinda utopia where people can make money however they want. Newsflash: that's not how the real world works. There are rules and limitations for a reason, and it's to prevent people like you from taking advantage of others.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff and not a lot of substance. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.
50  Economy / Reputation / Re: Addressing 'Suchmoon' Allegations, on: June 05, 2024, 08:00:22 PM
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Ditec, nobody can even have a normal conversation , with you your just spamming. I just explained the provably fair on your thread, what the hell are you talking about. Go read, because your not reading, your just ranting. So I am not going to read anything your saying, until you read what I said. You just spamming while I am sleep with a whole bunch of bullshit, bro.

Literally just explained everything on your thread, gotta be joking, kid.

I am not reading anything you are saying bro, I promise you.

GluttonyY, are you kidding me? You're accusing me of spamming and not reading your posts, but it's clear you're just trying to dodge my scam report. I've read every single one of your responses and I'm still not buying what you're selling.

Your "explanations" are just a bunch of vague promises and buzzwords. You're not providing any real evidence or transparency, and it's obvious you're trying to distract from the real issues with UMG.

I'm actually pretty angry that you're falsely accusing me of not reading your posts. I've taken the time to carefully read and respond to each of your points, and it's clear you're not interested in having a real conversation.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not backing down from saying it. Your platform is built on false promises and misleading claims, and you're trying to take advantage of people's trust. Stay away from UMG, folks, and support my flags against UMG owners and promoters!

Who are you to tell anyone what to do. You are just an account with 10 posts, all regarding me on the Bitcoin Talk Forum..

Your posts hold no weight, but I am still hearing you out.

Your just screaming though, your not really providing anything relative.

I mean at the bare minimum, you have not proven your opinion is that of substance.

I have created a crypto currency, exchange, and a gambling platform, that is a competitor to the leading crypto casinos, all in the timespan of 6-8months, I mean bare minimum, my word holds more weight than yours.

Users just wanna see what you say, and how I handle it. And if I am legit/
 
But I will have to show them, if you act like a idiot, there is no hope for you.

Users, just want to see if UMG, is real or not. Once it is confirmed, I mean, you have gambling X10 at your fingertips, Mate.

I am hearing you out, and I was trying to hear you out. But your responses make it hard, 'Hey Gluttony, you are a liar', 'Hey @Gluttony, Your deflecting your lying'

Like mate. Who the hell are you talking to? Cause you aren't talking to me.

Might be the other Gluttony.

I gotta say, your response is a whole lotta sidestepping and not a lot of real talk. Let's break it down, shall we?

First off, you're trying to discredit me because I only have 10 posts (btw, it's 27, but who's counting?). Newsflash: the number of posts doesn't determine the validity of someone's argument. If that were the case, spammers would be the most credible people on the internet.

And speaking of posts, you only have 99 posts yourself. Not exactly a veteran of the forum, are you? But I digress.

You say my posts hold no weight, but I think any sane person would disagree. I've provided a detailed report on why UMG is a scam, and you've responded with... well, not much of anything concrete.

Now, you claim to have created a crypto currency, exchange, and gambling platform in 6-8 months. That's quite a feat, if true. But where's the beef? You can't just throw out a claim like that and expect people to take your word for it. Show us the goods, dude.

And let's be real, if UMG was legit, sane people wouldn't bother trying it out. It sounds too good to be true, and we all know what they say about that.

Lastly, I gotta say, you're literally a glutton for trying to scam people's time and money. It's like you're addicted to taking advantage of others. Get a new hobby, dude.

So, to sum it up, your response was a whole lotta fluff. If you want to be taken seriously, try providing some actual evidence and substance to your claims. Until then, I'll keep calling out UMG for the scam it is.
51  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:51:47 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

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"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, let's get to the point.

You're still trying to deflect and attack me personally, but I'm not afraid to speak out against a potentially fraudulent platform.

You ask me to inform you about the real issues of UMG. Um, didn't I already do that in my original post? You can check it out here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097

I pointed out several red flags, including their unrealistic promises, lack of transparency, and shady claims. But I guess you didn't bother to read it or you're just trying to pretend like you didn't see it.

You say a lottery can pay back everything without going bankrupt. Okay, cool. But that's not what UMG is claiming. They're saying they can generate unlimited money with a 99.9% RTP rate. That's just not possible.

And yeah, I'd be happy to enlighten you on the shady practices of UMG. But I already did that in my original post. You can go read it again if you need a refresher.

So, no, I won't be backing down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.
52  Economy / Reputation / Re: Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! on: June 05, 2024, 07:45:13 PM
Hey everyone, I found this thread through a Google search and hope I'm not doing anything wrong by posting here. I wanted to reach out to the community for support in flagging those who own or promote Unlimited Money Generator (UMG). I've done my research and believe it's a scam, and I'd like to ask for your help in holding them accountable.

You can find the flags here:

Flag 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3312
Flag 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3313

If you're interested in learning more about why I think UMG is a scam, you can check out my original report here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.msg64173097#msg64173097
53  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:38:35 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

Quote
"I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong.
Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.
54  Economy / Gambling / Re: Unlimited Money Generator (16+)(99.9% RTP)(1.0.3) on: June 05, 2024, 07:31:58 PM
Bro stop copy and pasting your messages, and leaving it everywhere, just put in one thread, your confusing everyone, you just saying a bunch of random shit everywhere dude.

Smoke and mirrors, where have you even tested the system? Dude? What are you talking about, 99.9% RTP, rate, That is exactly how it works.

You are inexperienced, so, step back. Educate yourself, then come back, and we can have a more logical conversation, thank you.


Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not copy-pasting my messages, I'm sharing my concerns about UMG with the community. If you actually read my statements, you'd get it. Instead, you're trying to discredit me with personal attacks.

You say I'm confusing everyone, but it's you who's creating smoke and mirrors around UMG's shady stuff. I've pointed out clear red flags, and you're not addressing them.

You think I'm inexperienced, but that's not an argument. I've done my research and raised valid concerns about UMG's "Provably Fair" system, their unpro website, and their unrealistic promises. You're the one who's not providing any evidence.

And btw, 99.9% RTP rate is not how it works. That's just crazy high, and you know it. If you're gonna defend UMG, at least be honest about their practices.

I don't need to learn how to spot a scam. I've done my homework, and I'm warning others about UMG. You're the one who needs to step back, reflect on your actions, and think about the harm you might be causing by promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.
55  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:25:13 PM
Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are promoting a different casino platform, META WIN. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're accusing these members of having an "underlying motive" to bash your platform and promote META WIN, but that's just a weak attempt to deflect criticism. If you're really confident in your platform, you should be able to address the concerns people have raised about it, rather than attacking others.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying that people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without proper evidence, but that's exactly what you're doing to META WIN and its affiliates. You're accusing them of being biased and trying to promote their own platform, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform.

And let's be real, I think your website is a scam. I think you're trying to take advantage of people's trust and make a quick buck. I think your "Unlimited Money Generator" is just a fancy way of saying "give me your money and I'll promise you the world". I'm not buying it, bro.

In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.

So, instead of attacking other members and trying to deflect criticism, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website.

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In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.
Good, a user finally capable of making an intellectual move, to stop all of this drama.

Well done.

You're congratulating me on making an intellectual move, but you still haven't addressed the concerns I raised about your website in my thread, which is what really matters.

See your running through the messages, late not even knowing, im applauding you for taking this step.

That's why you don't spam me on multiple threads, about what you wanna say, because then your not able to see my responses, and you push forward in virtue of not knowing, i am applauding you for taking this extra step to do your due diligence.

I mean, I am trying to address the claims, you won't give me a chance, you just spamming me bro. I don't understand where I can find an opening to fill you in, if you won't let me.

You want me to tell you, but anytime I tell you some, its always, 'As you can see hes trying to deflect'

When I am giving you my perspective, or opinion.

That shit is uncalled for bro, and I am not dealing with that shit.

I am responding, showing you hey, you can ask questions.

You coming back with 'Nah, you lying, lol thats a scam, ima continue pushing that you a scam, I dont care' 'You deflecting, you a scammer, nahhhh you a scammer'

Like bro, I am not gonna have a conversation with you like that.

Dont ask me questions, if your not gonna have an open mind.

Fix up.

Hey @GluttonyY, your response is mostly off topic. I gave you a chance to address the concerns about UMG, but instead of answering directly, you falsely claimed it's not a scam. Take your time to respond to my statement, I'm not in a hurry. My action is called for because I don't want anyone to get scammed. And btw, saying "I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong. You're the one who needs to fix up, not me.
56  Other / Meta / Re: Why is this guy allowed to constantly break the rules? on: June 05, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
I said my spam is needed, I never said I was spamming the forum.
You said you were leaving the forum but in the end you did not.

Likewise, like I have said before, even if I am spamming, there is a purpose.
There is no purpose to your spamming yet you continue to do it.

Unlimited Money Generator, requires me to have a relationship with users on the bitcoin talk forum, it is extremely complex system, I have to explain, so users understand.
What happened after you posted your goodbye post? We were all hoping we had seen the last of you but you returned and (to our disappointment) you never posted about going away again. Ever since that time you have been a troll and a nuisance, that cannot be denied yet you will continue to protest your innocence.

There is no extremely complex system yet you spin this non-argument.

Jolly Good, if you wanted me to leave then you should not have got so excited. Lol.

Why would you get excited about me leaving the forum, now I am only going to stay.

Likewise, UMG, is so complex, someone like you wouldn't be able to understand.

So much purpose in spamming, we gotta get these gamblers away from the casinos into the Unlimited Money Generator, with 99.9% RTP!

I'll say it again.

Spamming on this forum, is okay, only for me. Unlimited Money Generator. Why? Because my platform saves people lives. The casino don't save nobody life!

They can't spam! Only I can spam!

Spamming, is definitely okay, if you are saving people lives!



'UMG is so WRong' Yea fucking right, my platform with 99.9% RTP, and an algorithm helping gamblers profit, is wrong.






 

Bruh, spamming ain't okay anywhere, whether it's this forum, TikTok, or anywhere else. Saying UMG is 'complex' is just a way to hide that it's a scam. And let's be real, your platform doesn't 'save lives' unless you're referring to people saving themselves from suicide after losing money and time on UMG. Stop the nonsense
57  Economy / Reputation / Re: Poker Player, loser who only knows 5 words. (SCAM, OMG SCAM, CRUDE, SCAM) on: June 05, 2024, 07:11:04 PM
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

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That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.

To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.

It was an accident Holydarkness, please forgive me!

But I messed up. And you misinterpreted.
 
We both gotta own up, because you keep calling me wrong, for inventing a gambling luck based system, when nobody ever did this before, bro.

So we both gotta start, owning up to when we wrong. Because nobody is right all the time.

And what the fuck is this guy ^ up here talking about, shut the fuck up and go 1v1 somebody already, stop bothering me with that shit.

Looks like you're dodging the convo because you can't debunk the UMG scam claims. Insults ain't gonna cut it, buddy. Address the concerns or admit UMG is a scam
58  Economy / Reputation / Re: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation on: June 05, 2024, 07:04:17 PM
Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are promoting a different casino platform, META WIN. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're accusing these members of having an "underlying motive" to bash your platform and promote META WIN, but that's just a weak attempt to deflect criticism. If you're really confident in your platform, you should be able to address the concerns people have raised about it, rather than attacking others.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying that people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without proper evidence, but that's exactly what you're doing to META WIN and its affiliates. You're accusing them of being biased and trying to promote their own platform, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform.

And let's be real, I think your website is a scam. I think you're trying to take advantage of people's trust and make a quick buck. I think your "Unlimited Money Generator" is just a fancy way of saying "give me your money and I'll promise you the world". I'm not buying it, bro.

In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.

So, instead of attacking other members and trying to deflect criticism, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website.

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In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498951.0. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.
Good, a user finally capable of making an intellectual move, to stop all of this drama.

Well done.

You're congratulating me on making an intellectual move, but you still haven't addressed the concerns I raised about your website in my thread, which is what really matters.
59  Economy / Reputation / Re: Poker Player, loser who only knows 5 words. (SCAM, OMG SCAM, CRUDE, SCAM) on: June 05, 2024, 06:57:29 PM
May 30th,

Poker Player, called me out and said I was a liar, for inventing a luck based system, users could manipulate to alter their probability of winning, for a guaranteed chance to win, ultimately accomplishing a safer much more reliable and profitable system for gambling.

Let's give it another shot, this time through different way, a simpler one, kindly define luck according to your own words and what you have in mind when you create the platform and that "luck-based system".
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As established [or at least being in an ongoing discussion] on the thread which post you linked above, you're not inventing "luck" based system, it's "entry". So yeah, if I may borrow what I said previously --somewhere-- about luck, that you can't obtain more luck, i.e. manipulate them, isolating the case as described above, PP isn't wrong to be sceptical to someone who claimed he invented a luck based system.


I am inventing a luck based system in gambling users can manipulate.. This is what you don't understand Holy, no one has ever done this in gambling before.

It is a luck based system. Likewise, of course he isn't wrong. We never said he was wrong holy. We said, hey if your skeptical, you need to ask more questions. don't sting, me out of impulse.

Because everything I am saying is true, in my eyes, and is an accurate prediction.

I have invented the luck based system, showing you how many entries a user had to win the lottery.

I am the user inventing the luck based system, in gambling helping users manipulate their chance of winning, likewise, giving them a better chance of winning if they have not won.

So you are wrong.

In gambling I have invented this system.

And it will lead to gamblers being able to profit much more money, and much more consistently.

Although PP critcism, is needed, now he is holding the gamblers back.

You're still trying to spin your scam as some kind of revolutionary "luck-based system"? Give me a break. You're not inventing anything new, you're just repackaging the same old gambling scams and trying to sell them to unsuspecting people.

Newsflash: you can't manipulate luck, and your system is just a fancy way of taking people's money. You're preying on people's hopes and dreams, and it's shameful.

You're trying to justify your scam by saying that you're helping people win more consistently, but that's just not true. You're taking advantage of people's desperation and lack of understanding of probability.

And to top it all off, you're trying to silence critics like Poker Player who are calling you out on your BS. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to stifle legitimate criticism and concerns.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not going to let you get away with it. Stay away from this platform, folks, and don't fall for the owner's false promises.


Shutup idiot, you can manipulate luck if you make a system, with its own mechanics and its own rules, determining when someone wins. You fucking fool!

Trying to argue with the user who programs all day, and not join his side.

You fool!

Get on your knees, and pray I don't ban you!

Stupid mothef*cker !

Fancy way of stealing money my ass!

Your stealing the money motherfucker thats the whole point, you fucking moron/

PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM UMG, DUMB FUCK, PLEASE!

im begging you!!!!!!!

I do not ever want to help a user as dumb as you with support!

'Gluttony how do I check the balance of my bitcoin address' FUCKKKKK

Dude, I'm not intimidated by your aggressive language and ban threats. You're basically admitting that you can manipulate luck in your system, which is unethical almost everywhere. It's not just illegal in the US, it's morally wrong to rig games of chance and take advantage of people.

And honestly, if you're so confident in your system, why are you trying to silence critics like me? Shouldn't you be transparent and open to scrutiny? It's shady as hell that you're trying to hide something.

Your insults and personal attacks only make me more suspicious that you're promoting a scam. If you were genuinely trying to help people, you wouldn't resort to name-calling and threats. It's clear that you're more interested in lining your own pockets than doing what's right.

I'll keep warning people about UMG's shady activities and claims, and your attempts to bully me won't stop me. It's time for you to take responsibility and address the legitimate concerns raised about your system, rather than trying to intimidate and silence critics.
60  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam Alert: "Unlimited Money Generator" Website on: June 05, 2024, 06:49:56 PM
--snip--
I'm not impressed with GluttonyY's response. Instead of addressing my concerns and providing some much-needed transparency, he's getting defensive and trying to intimidate me. This kind of behavior is a classic sign of a scammer trying to cover their tracks.

And let's not forget, GluttonyY, you know as well as I do that this forum has a time limit for writing multiple posts. You're trying to rush me into responding to all your points at once, but I'm not falling for it. I'll take my time, quote your posts one by one, and address each of your weak excuses separately.

So, let's start with your first response. You claim that your system is fair and transparent, but you've yet to provide any real evidence to back that up. Until you can do that, I'll remain skeptical. And what's even more telling is that your attack responses so far haven't done anything to explain why UMG isn't a scam - they've only served to further raise my suspicions.

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And let's not forget, GluttonyY, you know as well as I do that this forum has a time limit for writing multiple posts. You're trying to rush me into responding to all your points at once, but I'm not falling for it. I'll take my time, quote your posts one by one, and address each of your weak excuses separately.
I am not doing that, I was not even aware that rule existed. Likewise please quote the posts, and let me know what does not add up.

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. And what's even more telling is that your attack responses so far haven't done anything to explain why UMG isn't a scam - they've only served to further raise my suspicions.
I am not attacking you I am explaining to you, why this system can have a 99.9% RTP, and still survive, likewise it not being a scam.

Comment as fast as you want, as long as you interact with me no admin, will bother you, because they know gravity of UMG.

'Classic sign of being a scammer', okay, but let's get to the bottom of my desires.

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You claim that your system is fair and transparent, but you've yet to provide any real evidence to back that up.
1. All payouts are reflected back to the screen. Each payout, will contain the username of the player, how much they won, and how much money they spent in order to win.

2.Market Cap, users can see how much money is available in each world, so they can make more wiser decisions, on if they want to bet their money.. Are the rewards worth it, essentially..

3. Fair.
  • Each world, has an algorithm setting each user at the same advantage, so even if they have the minimum amount required to participate, they still have the same chance of winning as everyone else
  • Each world, contains a fair system, showing you the numbers and winners, every 5 seconds. Bare minimum it would be extremely hard to rig this system, as there are multiple worlds, with lotteries occurring every 5 seconds, every 24 hours. (Scam Protected) I would have to be awake for 24 hours, to rig the system or I would have to have a dedicated team. Likewise on top of that, the system is already profiting without bothering you at all. Taking a 0.1% fee. So in virtue it is a 1% chance this is a scam. The only reason users, would call it a scam is because of the name. If everyone knew the underlying function they would know it's borderline impossible for the system to be a scam. Likewise it containing many benefits, that will help gamblers overall.

4. Users can add all the payouts on the screen and determine, if the money was distributed correctly, using simple mathematics.

5. The system can operate upon 99.9% RTP, because it is operating on the basis of a lottery in each world. So 99.9% RTP, only means that 99.9% of all the money in the lottery, will be returned back, there is nothing wrong with this.

6.Users can pvp, 1v1, in this lottery system, likewise, 99.9% RTP, not being an issue, since it is a lottery mechanism.

Hopefully, you are beginning to understand, there are no red flags, other than the poor website design.

This is not to say the rtp will always be 99.9%, but as of right now, it is and it will stay that way.

The lowest I see the rtp going is 99%

GluttonyY, I'm not impressed by your attempts to deflect and misdirect. You're still not providing any concrete evidence to back up your claims, and instead, you're trying to shift the focus to your supposed "transparency" and "fairness".

Let's break down your points one by one:

  • You claim that all payouts are reflected on the screen, but that's not enough to prove that your system is fair and transparent. Anyone can display fake payouts to make it look like their system is working.
  • Your Market Cap feature is just a fancy way of saying that users can see how much money is available in each world. That doesn't prove anything about the fairness of your system.
  • Your "Fair" system is just a bunch of vague claims about algorithms and equal advantages. You're not providing any real evidence or explanations about how your system works. And your "Scam Protected" claim is just laughable.
  • Users can add up payouts on the screen, but that's not a reliable way to determine if the money was distributed correctly. You're still not providing any real transparency or accountability.
  • Your explanation of the 99.9% RTP is just a bunch of word salad. You're not explaining how your system can sustain such a high RTP without going bankrupt. And your claim that it's a lottery mechanism doesn't make sense.
  • Your PvP feature is just a distraction from the real issues with your system.

You're still not addressing the concerns I raised in my initial report, and your responses are only raising more suspicions. I'm not buying your "poor website design" excuse, and I'm not going to back down from calling out your scam.

I also forget to say you should already be familiar with the forum rules, considering you were once a newcomer like me and had to learn them to participate in the community. It's surprising that you're feigning ignorance about the time limit for writing multiple posts, given your experience on this forum.


Bro, a lottery cannot bankrupt from paying all the money put into back.

What don't you understand. Remove your negative flags, you not comprehending bro.

Fucking word, salad. Did you learn that word, from my trust ratings.

Likewise, I don't care what you do ditec, you not backing down from your 'scam allegations' is you just saying hey ' I am a blind idiot, I don't know what the fuck I am talking heyyyy, scammmm even though there is no way the system can scam you, I just have not comprehended correctly and now I am spreadigggg falsee narrativeeess ah-ah -ah robot'

RObot chicken!


There are no issues with the system, a lottery occurring every 5 seconds, 24 hours, nobody has time to rig that.

'My attempts to deflect and misdirect' Like I am fucking lying to you, shut the hell up with that. You sound stupid.

Like I am putting all this damn energy in to scam you, like I am not putting in effort to help you understand.

Jump on that bandwagon, I'll make you look stupid, my intentions are pure, there is no way you can make me look like a fool.

You look like a fool, spamming me not giving me enough time to respond to you.





I'm surprised by your aggressive tone and personal attacks. Let's focus on the facts. You claim I don't understand that a lottery can't go bankrupt from paying out all the money put in, but that's not what I said. My concern is about the website's claim of a 99.9% RTP, which is ridiculously high and unsustainable in the long run. I asked how the system can sustain such a high RTP without going bankrupt, and your response was just a bunch of word salad.

You're trying to justify the system by saying it's a lottery mechanism, but that doesn't explain how it can maintain a 99.9% RTP. Lotteries typically have a much lower RTP, and it's unclear how this system can defy the laws of probability. My report raised legitimate concerns about the website's lack of transparency and suspicious claims, and I won't remove the flags just because you're trying to discredit me.

It's interesting that you're using pejorative terms like 'blind idiot' to refer to me. This kind of language only reinforces my suspicions that you're promoting UMG despite knowing it's a scam. If you were genuinely interested in helping people understand the system, you wouldn't resort to insults and personal attacks.
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