"Do you have plans to randomly freeze accounts due to "suspicious activity" where the details are withheld from the account holders for the purposes of "security and fraud-prevention"?"
I am presently unable to answer your question ;-) however I would direct your attention to rule 162 of the standard contractual conditions, just under those providing various forms of indemnity, and "First Born Collateral".
I can tell you that this week I am providing a free badge to all new clients in recognition of their contribution to GDP and the employment given to countless numbers of otherwise unemployable fact-checkers, not to mention the launch of my new company Badge Builders Conspiracy Inc ...
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"regulations are the first step to legalising bitcoin"
I, for one am totally convinced by your logic. I am willing to provide the self regulation that bitcoinUK clearly needs. Just pm me with your proposed transaction, 0.1BTC fee, (I'm still working on the reason for that, this is a work in progress after all) private keys, family history, medical history, (you can't be too careful) current bank details and full details last year's transactions, (GCHQ knows this already and you have nothing to hide, right? so no problem there)
!!! Nearly forgot ;-) just in case I get accused of Money Laundering, I'll need your passport details and date of birth. I don't actually need these right now but they might come in handy later - I'll trust you to send them on if you don't have them handy.
Yes .. April 1st can't come soon enough ... ;-)
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"Anything that government is doing isn't really helping or wasn't intended to help anyone at all. The drug war and war on terrorism is pretty much pointless. But this comes down to the same subject, and we keep going in circles."
Somebody was left off the cc list ;-)
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I am surprised to see the report. I think I keep a reasonable eye on the bitcoin space, and I heard nothing about the Treasury consultation before its publication.
Reading the list of contributors suggests that the report will be heavily biased toward those who have no interest in bitcoin's success. It seems that HMG expects the bitoin community to be grateful that they are "only" being hit with AML and KYC regulations. The problem with their consultation is that many of the contributors think in terms of millions of pounds - for example the £10,000,000 for research would have bought every bitcoin on the planet a couple of years ago.
So, on the one hand KYC and AML regulation will do nothing to prevent another MtGox from happening, while ensuring that barriers to entry are raised. And don't get me started on the hypocrisy of state sponsored terrorism and criminality.
Let me make a suggestion : so long as the amounts in bitcoin are less than those handled by the UK's Small Claims Courts - currently circa £3000, no regulation is needed beyond that already in place. For amounts above that, and for example exchanges, quarterly reporting of the state of the accounts in addition to the normal company requirements.
And think about capital gains and bitcoin. If Bitcoins go to £10,000,000 ea, it will be because the UK government has totally failed in in its fiscal responsibilities. And They want bitcoin to bail them out?
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I tend to avoid public donations, for obvious reasons, but this is just wrong.
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@minermick, this story sounds incomplete. It probably does not matter which solicitor you pick, the search procedure will continue until it finishes. Your TDs may be more sympathetic, as they tend to be more business sensitive, so try contacting them.
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"anyone know if it could in theory be done?"
Just create promises to pay on demand, maybe called these Bitcoin Reserve Notes, and then create institutions that recognise all gains immediately while hiding losses for years. What to call these? Magic the Gathering is already taken, I hear, maybe Biankts?
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Delivery now overdue nearly a year.
Time to remind Bitmine that I am still here and they still owe me my refund.
The way bitcoin prices are going they are not going to last much longer.
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"So HSBC started somewhat like bitcoin "
Who knows what might have happened if DPR had opened a bitcoin bank and started trading bitcoin?
And yes, the Adam Smith thing sounded strange, maybe the text got mangled by Google Translate or something ...
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And you think that the KGB only found out about this by reading the newspapers? They probably had access to whatever they wanted for maybe a year. Thank you NSA (and the horse you rode in on)
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the origins and business model of HSBC http://greatgameindia.com/hsbc-bank-secret-origins-to-2611-mumbai-attacks/“As the opium and other trade with China expanded, Britain’s new territory of Hong Kong became a major imperial commercial center. The opium dealers gathered together to form a bank, the Hongkong and Shanghai Bank, as the financial flagship of the British opium trade. Over time, the bank—now known as HSBC—would extend its reach into the drug fields of the Middle East and Ibero-America, as befitting its role as the financial kingpin of Dope, Inc.” Enjoy reading while you can. All this can and will be censored.
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Is it not clear that his job depends on his not understanding, well pretty much everything?
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@crocko
no sign of any trust downgrades at your link?
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I have been waiting a long time for this to happen.
Bitmine has to refund me ~$5300 in bitcoin.
I will PM you. Obviously, I will need to make sure you are legitimate before you get anything :-)
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"He seems to be okay to me."
Totally not the point at issue. The US government's overreach now pretty much prevents Americans having an account in a foreign bank. These banks just do not want the hassle of dealing with US.gov, just by way of an example.
If the regulation goes through as presently proposed, there is no way I would buy or trade Bitcoin with any NYC company, and perhaps any US entity. You Americans are crazy to even think this can be done.
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Russia's mistake was to equate the blockchain with Bitcoin. Big mistake. Huge. And just to balance thing up for all those who owe the rest of us $10Tn ... ;-) and think they own their own home ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzSAoD2mzU
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@saxon9 "As you maybe already have noticed the Bitmine AG remains in serious financial trouble"
So declare bankruptcy and give us our refund or better still give us our refund and declare bankruptcy?
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It's easier to call a taxi to me. I don't know if it's more expensive, but I know I always prefer to hire the service of a professional, and nobody records my commuting.
You break into the taxi service office and wipe their computers?
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Whoever he is, hope the punishment stays as an example to the Bitcoin community.
I read recently that you should never pass a law unless you were prepared to see people die as a result. The thinking was that the State is authorised to use lethal force to enforce its laws, and eventually that will happen.
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