When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com.
I see nothing of the sort in your terms. I'm with tysat on this one. As no terms are explicitly defined, your terms are this: Currently you could earn 22.77 mBTC for one visitor! Only 2% service fee Free to use Earnings paid automatically to you! Let me direct you to http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/tos.php which is on the top right of every page on the website. I saw those. None of them pertain to how funds are dispersed and when they can be dispersed. They mention that you can terminate the contract at any time, but there's nothing about you being allowed to keep the funds. Thus, the implied terms overrule, and those imply that the earnings are paid automatically for each and every click. When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com. The advertiser pays for clicks and they got what they paid for.
Imagine an estate agent/escrow who sells your house and then tells you "I sold your house but it was crap, so you will not get paid. The purchasers got what they paid for though. So the deal is closed, I do whatever I please with the money I received for your crappy property, and you are BANNED" LOL
@Andrew Bitcoiner Sounds like what you're doing. No that doesn't actually translate at all because every ban to a partner occurs to protect the investment each advertiser makes who retain their remaining clicks to legitimate sources of traffic. There will always be fraud in CPC advertising and I take diligent actions to stop and preempt click fraud so that advertisers get legit traffic to their site and earn new customers. I cannot tell 100% what is click fraud and what is not but I can make reasonable assumptions about web traffic which is a tried and true industry. It's not easy to do that and it takes a careful judgement of the pros and cons each partner offers to our advertisers and I take that responsibility very seriously. As an advertiser on BitcoinAds myself I want my advertising bitcents to be the most effective as possible and future versions of the site will have better analytics for advertisers and partners so that they can legitimately earn bitcoin for using the service. I see none of this in your terms. Even then, why aren't the funds returned to the advertisers? If the clicks are clearly fraud, then the advertisers shouldn't have to pay for them. You should get the scammer tag for that alone (unless it was in the terms, but it clearly wasn't). Next time, get a lawyer. Are you a lawyer or providing legal advice? Your whole statement doesn't amount to anything with Section 5 of the TOS. |
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When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com.
I see nothing of the sort in your terms. I'm with tysat on this one. As no terms are explicitly defined, your terms are this: Currently you could earn 22.77 mBTC for one visitor! Only 2% service fee Free to use Earnings paid automatically to you! Let me direct you to http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/tos.php which is on the top right of every page on the website. |
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When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com. The advertiser pays for clicks and they got what they paid for.
Imagine an estate agent/escrow who sells your house and then tells you "I sold your house but it was crap, so you will not get paid. The purchasers got what they paid for though. So the deal is closed, I do whatever I please with the money I received for your crappy property, and you are BANNED" LOL
@Andrew Bitcoiner Sounds like what you're doing. No that doesn't actually translate at all because every ban to a partner occurs to protect the investment each advertiser makes who retain their remaining clicks to legitimate sources of traffic. There will always be fraud in CPC advertising and I take diligent actions to stop and preempt click fraud so that advertisers get legit traffic to their site and earn new customers. I cannot tell 100% what is click fraud and what is not but I can make reasonable assumptions about web traffic which is a tried and true industry. It's not easy to do that and it takes a careful judgement of the pros and cons each partner offers to our advertisers and I take that responsibility very seriously. As an advertiser on BitcoinAds myself I want my advertising bitcents to be the most effective as possible and future versions of the site will have better analytics for advertisers and partners so that they can legitimately earn bitcoin for using the service. |
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I doubt you'll read or respond to this, but..... TOS it is very clear that users have a limited license to use the service and that it may be revoked at any time for any reason. Revoking service is a lot different than taking money they were owed. Still sounds like you didn't tell them what they had done against your TOS. When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com. Partners sign up of their own free will and at no cost to them. We do not gather contact information for followup communication with partners and as implied in the TOS we are under no obligation to inform partners of when or why they are banned. If they contact us I am happy to discuss the matter with any partner that feels they have been unduly suspended and have a couple cases where we have happily worked things out. This is all industry standard accepted practice. Uhh... what about the advertiser? Why shouldn't he get his money back for what must be fraudulent clicks? So he is paying you to donate to a charity for him? What is this shit? The advertiser pays for clicks and they got what they paid for. |
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I doubt you'll read or respond to this, but..... TOS it is very clear that users have a limited license to use the service and that it may be revoked at any time for any reason. Revoking service is a lot different than taking money they were owed. Still sounds like you didn't tell them what they had done against your TOS. When a partner is banned any bitcoin value accrued in the bitcoin address they provide is forfeit to BitcoinAdvertisers.com. Partners sign up of their own free will and at no cost to them. We do not gather contact information for followup communication with partners and as implied in the TOS we are under no obligation to inform partners of when or why they are banned. If they contact us I am happy to discuss the matter with any partner that feels they have been unduly suspended and have a couple cases where we have happily worked things out. This is all industry standard accepted practice. |
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 Selling one of these, used like new for 42btc. Bottom offer. |
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but I can't think of a corresponding similar prejudice on the "right," do right wingers love banks, big oil, and Wall Street? The Lew Rockwell variety
Lew Rockwell is one of the major libertarian names... he's definitely not "right wing"... I would say he's definitely right wing libertarian. The major difference between left and right libertarianism that I can tell is hating white people, Cindy Sheehan is a case in point. |
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I wonder if they'll move the whole thing to BlueSeed when it's ready  Well, IMHO blueseed could be one expensive mistake. It isn't a cheap way to run a startup (minimun rent 1600 USD in a shared room, if I remember right). If you want to build a successful company, it doesn't hurt to look at the costs as well. If blueseed works out it will be a floating tax haven, near SF. It would be good for many companies, not only startups. Actually, I don't know why they focus so much in startups. Maybe it's a marketing thing... people in general (and leftists in particular) tend to hate startups less than big companies. It is indeed an interesting observation that "corporate" = bad (Google), startup = "good" (Twitter?) to the "Occupy" scene. I think it more of an observation of SWPL prejudices but I can't think of a corresponding similar prejudice on the "right," do right wingers love banks, big oil, and Wall Street? The Lew Rockwell variety doesn't and they seem to be completely ambivalent towards Twitter-like startups. It is almost certainly an economic indicator of who has whom's stock options. I also think blueseed is an awesome idea, Snow Crash becomes reality. I for one would love it if blueseed would accept investment in bitcoins as that would be huge. |
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Hey just get ready for when you get this speech in Congress you will get asked a lot of the same questions  |
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That's the most epic article I've read in ages, thanks. |
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Bitcoins for allowance = awesome parenting!
I merely suggested it, but I think I have created a monster.. you should hear them complain when they have to spend them low and receive them high. Often I (jokingly) threaten to take their Bitcoins away if they don't get As and Bs or something and they start screaming NOOOOoooo lol Good stuff! Just curious, what do they spend their bitcoins on? When I was in 4th grade, I wanted things like foam airplanes, and candybars.  We must of been raised differently I wanted an AK |
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Sheesh are you the coolest mofo around or what? Inspiring |
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PROMOTION: I will be giving away 1btc worth of free advertising to a charity or non profit of your choice, preferably bitcoin related.
Please submit your suggestions on this thread, I will close the promotion and make the ad sometime Sunday.
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