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41  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinizy.com a scam? on: May 17, 2017, 06:31:41 PM
WTF is this service ?

My card is credited but it is refused everywhere I tryed it. Despite what's advertised it doesn't work where it should. And last but not the least, no support and no way to get Bitcoin back.

Consider it a SCAM.
42  Economy / Digital goods / Re: 💳 Virtual VISA Card ✅ 0.50$ 🚀 Instant delivery 🅿️ PayPal-ready on: May 17, 2017, 06:29:57 PM
WTF is this service ?

My card is credited but it is refused everywhere I tryed it. Despite what's advertised it doesn't work where it should. And last but not the least, no support and no way to get Bitcoin back.

Consider it a SCAM.
43  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: April 24, 2017, 05:46:52 PM
Just a few words to say DirectBet is very reliable. Support is faster than light.

Thanks
44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: February 11, 2016, 08:38:41 PM
This is a SCAM Smiley

"This parrot is no more. It has ceased to be!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

Genesis Mining sells you dead hashrate...
45  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: February 11, 2016, 08:32:54 PM
Final thought: No they are selling the service to make money, NOT to be your friend or care bear pal.

You don't get it, once again. They are a SCAM not because they are not profitable but because they don't sell what you paid for. In fact they sell you nothing, wind, ghost... do you understand ? You pay for nothing, your contribution does not even increase the global hashrate, you contribution is nothing, the hashrate IS NOT. Do you understand or are you a cultist ?

If you satisfy to pay for a non service, I tell you once again, I can provide you as many TH/s even PH/s you want and can guarantee 99% ROI. If there are people like you then tell me, I will start my business tomorrow Smiley
46  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: February 11, 2016, 08:23:11 PM
So I guess that means I can call antminers a scam company because after power cost, shipping, hardware costs I won't ever break even? Really.. Come on man.

When you buy hardware to Antminers, you receive the hardware you paid.

Now you buy HASHRATE to Genesis Mining but do you really get it ? How do you know you really paid for a share on a real machine doing real hashing ? You can't because GM refuse to show their stats. I can sell you hashrate dude, I told you, if you don't ask me for proof I CAN BE THE WORLD BIGGEST HASHRATE PROVIDER with the best ROI. Gimme your BTC you will receive your payouts everyday as long as...
I can offer a certified 99% ROI, because I'm less greedy than Marco Streng Smiley
47  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: February 11, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Why is it a SCAM ? Easy : they sell hashrate they don't have. They always refused to provide blocks found stats, something every honest pool does :
https://www.antpool.com/poolStats.htm
https://btcdig.com/stats/blocks/
http://eligius.st/~gateway/stats/recent-blocks
etc

Every pool not aiming noobs do it. It is the first thing you must provide when you pretend to mine cryptocurrencies. It has no technical difficulty and it does not compromise the security. They always refused to do it because they are dishonnest.

I can sell hashrate too without providing proof, and best of all, I'm able to pay more than GM lol. I would steal you but not a lot, I promise 99% ROI (1% is ok I'm not greedy  Grin ).

It is a SCAM.
48  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam alert : Do NOT INVEST in Genesis Mining on: February 10, 2016, 10:52:43 PM
Anyway why should they really mine ? It is cheaper for them to just pay dust for months than real mining. They don't have to buy expensive hardware with a low lifetime, pay electricity, maintenance... No, a clever company just sell ghost hashrate because it is more profitable. Customers don't ask them to prove their hashrate and they satisfy dust payouts for months. Once contract closed they realise they lost 75% what they paid but during these months Genesis Mining spam for news contracts with lower fees, new coins (X11...).

Whatever they pretend they know they will earn at least half what you pay. There is nothing behind this company, just a web site, some pictures for noobs that's all.

What you pay is a login and a password in their database and the certainty they will keep 50% to 75% what you paid forever.

It is a very profitable business.

If you don't mind losing money (some people say they don't care), so give me your bitcoins and I promise to pay you back 90%. It is a good deal, because you will just lose 10% Smiley
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: How many BTC do you win/lose with Genesis Mining on: February 09, 2016, 12:56:14 PM
From my experience from October 2014 til now, it is impossible to ROI. I saw scrypt payouts until close : 30% ROI, then SHA256 : 25% in a full year and will be closed soon.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / How many BTC do you win/lose with Genesis Mining on: February 09, 2016, 12:05:51 PM
I am trying to evaluate how many people really win with this SCAM.

I invested about 0.8 BTC in october 2014 (scrypt) and they closed my contract in january 2015. I get back about 0.25 BTC, so I lost 0.55 BTC.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / How many BTC do you win/lose with Genesis Mining on: February 09, 2016, 11:59:02 AM
I am trying to evaluate how many people really win with this SCAM.

I invested about 0.8 BTC in october 2014 (scrypt) and they closed my contract in january 2015. I get back about 0.25 BTC, so I lost 0.55 BTC.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 09, 2015, 05:23:14 AM
Right. And all current GM contracts will be underwater when block halving occurs next summer and fees > revenue at current bitcoin price range. Buying any bitcoin mining contract at GM right now is high risk. You are placing a bet that bitcoin price will double by next summer. The trouble with that type of bet is GM is the house and the house always wins. You need to look for hosted bitcoin mining with daily fees that are half of what GM charges if you want to give yourself any type of edge.

Don't need to "invest" in cloudmining if Bitcoin price double, you just have to buy Bitcoins now and you will have twice the value next summer.
Cloudmining is a monkey business, the winners are GM and its HUGE%DISCOUNT dealers.
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / first X11 mining contracts on: October 03, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
https://www.genesis-mining.com/pricing

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Now World's leading hashpower provider! is offering us rare opportunity to make money with X11.

I personnaly lost few hundred dollars in cloud mining (Scrypt and SHA256), so what about X11 ?

Do you think it is a risky investment ?
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 03, 2015, 08:09:01 PM
Bought 1 MH/S X11 hash from GM - received payout: 0.00015965

Set to BTC (AUTO)

That payout is small, perhaps you got your contract half way through a mining day when you purchased it.


How much did you receive for 1 MH/S X11?

0.00030651 BTC But that was for a full 24 hours as I purchased my contract on the first day it was out so a few days ago now.

Thanks Ian. I will post another update again once I receive the next payout. If it is a constant 0.0003, it will be about $25 per year.

Don't expect to receive this amount for a year. Difficulty will obviously change because now the World's leading hashpower provider! is going to mine X11 and a lot of clever customers will buy this contract. This is systematic, just look now for Startcoin hashrate : 24.81 GH/s. Let's see how it will increase over time.
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

I promise to give you $25 next year if you reach ROI..
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 03, 2015, 07:58:39 PM
How much Average daily Profit per 1 MH/s. X11 ?
I do not know how to calculator

X11 Asics does not exists. I don't believe Genesis Mining bought GPU, and even if they did they are unable to be profitable.

So today ROI is 400 days but it is a ponzi scheme and I bet with you in 6 months your contract will be off, you final ROI will be 50% at best.
As usual they offer larger payouts first weeks to attract noobs.

This company is now an obvious scam machine.


First of all, thanks once again Cruez for your kind comments.

Let me answer some of your thoughts.

X11 Asics does not exists
Yes that is true, at the moment we do not see any X11 Asics on the horizon so this is good for X11 mining in general.

I don't believe Genesis Mining bought GPU, and even if they did they are unable to be profitable.
Well unfortunately for you, it is true. We have the largest GPU farms in Europe. Infact our GPU farm has been running for a long time and we now are offering users the chance to cloudmine X11 using it.

In our last webinar, CEO Marco Streng showed some video clips of our GPU farm and if you look around on the internet there are some pictures from 2014 taken at one of our GPU farms.
https://youtu.be/bwCDI4axuKg?t=8m12s

I bet with you in 6 months your contract will be off, you final ROI will be 50% at best.
X11 mining contracts can not end because the maintenance fees are paid upfront so unlike our Scrypt Lifetime contracts from the past and our Lifetime SHA 256 contracts there is no daily fees to come out.

This company is now an obvious scam machine.
Thanks for your opinion. I am sure others can look at what we post online, pictures of our staff, our farms, our videos and live streaming etc and judge for themselves.

"Infact our GPU farm has been running for a long time and we now are offering users the chance to cloudmine X11 using it." i.e. : we were mining for our own profit for a long time and now it is no more profitable we take chance to catch noobs cash. Why don't you continue to run them as you did ?

"X11 mining contracts can not end because the maintenance fees are paid upfront so unlike our Scrypt Lifetime contracts from the past and our Lifetime SHA 256 contracts there is no daily fees to come out." We know how you manage the payouts : no proof of anything. You did it for scrypt and SHA256. Your HUGE55%DISCOUNT guys tell us to look at coinwarz to check the non profitability. So today I tell you how are you profitable with X11, because CoinWarz show us it is NOT.
I want you to tell us how many you will pay per difficulty ratio because we know now how you are able to stop payouts.

No fees, ok, so, give us garantees if you are able to.

What I understand is that you need cash and know that you will pay less in lifetime contract (1 year) than what we will pay for.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: October 03, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
How much Average daily Profit per 1 MH/s. X11 ?
I do not know how to calculator

X11 Asics does not exists. I don't believe Genesis Mining bought GPU, and even if they did they are unable to be profitable.

So today ROI is 400 days but it is a ponzi scheme and I bet with you in 6 months your contract will be off, you final ROI will be 50% at best.
As usual they offer larger payouts first weeks to attract noobs.

This company is now an obvious scam machine.
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: September 24, 2015, 08:49:24 PM
Erratum, the current Return On Investment is 571 days (not 400 days)... worse and worse. That means that when you give one bitcoin to Genesis Mining today, if difficulty does'nt change for 571 days (lol), you will get back your bitcoin at the end of 2016 (may be for christmas who knows). If (likely) difficulty rise before these 571 days, you can consider you will never see your bitcoin again.

Good luck




And so 4 months later.. Smiley

I'm a genius (or it was obvious).

Now you can cry or try to find noobs to make this monkey business continue (ask IanFoxley and Zetaos, unofficial GM dealers Smiley).
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HOW CAN I GET MY LTECOINS AGAIN on: August 23, 2015, 07:30:02 AM
Never delete wallet.dat (litecoin, bitcoin or whatever coin) before having a backup or knowing the private keys.

Furthermore, I don't understand why newcomers don't use electrum-ltc Sad

https://electrum-ltc.org/
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: July 03, 2015, 11:45:05 PM
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Another point is that we would like to protect our business secrecies. Some competitors are very interested in getting to know how much hashpower we have and how much we sell every day. We are not publishing this kind of information for a reason.

Sorry you have to choose between transparency toward your customers and your so-called business secrecies. This is a false argument and the worst one, used by a lot of scammers before, so scam for scam we won't pay your more expensive service.

Keep in mind we are your business ; if you consider your hardware before your customers, don't ask us to buy your hashrate, mine for yourself.

60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: July 03, 2015, 11:33:32 PM
Anyway, to come back to your original question: we have decided that we will publish one of our BTC mining addresses within the next week (about 2 PH/s). Hopefully, it will give you some more comfort that we are very real.

Hi,

Finally !

Publishing one of your BTC mining addresses is a good start.

In the future, if you provide evidence that you are doing a real work I will be able to buy again from your company (even at loss). A real time list of found blocks on the web site would make Genesis Mining completely unblamable, this is what amateurs mining pools are doing, I'm confident you are technically able to have it. I accept to lose money for a real hashing power (because it is at least securising the network), but not for a fake service.

Kind regards.
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