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41  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 10:15:37 PM
So here is what the hashtards are saying :

"Assume it was a scam. What a difference does it make now? Price is already low.... Lets move forward... Dont care"

So apparently they're not in denial stage and moved to delusional stage.....

Lol here is a funny senario: they know the ship is a fake and can never float but they refuse to jump because well.... Lets build the ship right now..... While already sinking....


The level of stupidity of these retards are beyond human.
42  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:10:59 PM
WOW, fucking money bags Homero, his poor mother in all her emails begging him for money every few minutes. That's some bad shit right there. Big fucking paycoing 250 million dollar man, and the woman has to borrow money to visit him and get her teeth fixed.


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On Dec 4, 2014 10:11 AM, "Hope Vowels"  wrote:

    Good Morning Son,

    I need to ask if you could possibly help us financially with our trip up for Christmas. We will need to rent a car. We may have the money but we are not the kind of people that have money in the bank or a credit card we can run up. Matt is working this Sunday (overtime) and we can put that towards it. I believe we plan on leaving the evening of the 23rd and then we will come back the 27th or 28th. That is not set in stone. I don't think Matt has to be back at work until Jan. 5th. I am not sure how that works with a car, in regards to telling them one date and keeping it to another.

    Regardless, I wanted to throw that out there because I know we can not drive his truck or my car. Just let me know when you get a chance. Thank you honey. And I am very grateful for the opportunity to work at gawminers and I am so amazed by you and all that you do!! I truly am.....I could go on and on. Basically you blow me away!!

    Love you  ~Momma

Simple Matt is his step father who fucked him in the ass when he was a child. His mental illness has to come from somewhere right?


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. I am asking you now to help me out of this bad dental spot. I had a dentist that I was not aware of that was not qualified to oput on my veneers. I have been paying every since. They do need redone and once our insurance renews at the beginning of the year the cost will be about $2,200. I currently have $700. Is there any way you could possibly loan me the remainder? I believe Matt will get a bonus check in March/Apri
43  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:03:02 PM
Something interesting here. I know that the initial Email from Josh came out a while back, but I do not recall seeing the replies that are here. Josh states flat out the the $20 Floor was a promise made to sell Paycoin and that it can not be honored, yet they intend to proceed anyways. FRAUD, plain and simple.





I think there are more emails related to this one, I will continue to chase these after the next coat of paint here.

I cant believe the gawtards are still in denial......where can i find such stupid bunch? I want to use them as my slaves....
44  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
Homero's spying on his wife.  Shocked

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GPS spy on her car and even monitoring her internet activity? sounds very dangerous...

When a person that lives by fraud and lieing ofcourse that person will never trust anyone. Altho Jessica and him had a history of kinky sex so .... Fked up all around
45  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 07:08:19 PM
Anyone come across anything about the Remember 911 Hashlets and the charity donation that may or may not have happened?

Bump!  I'm also interested in this.  
I've sent the memorial an email



Was the agreement to donate the first 10K in proceeds or all proceeds?  The emails above https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11108250#msg11108250 show 48K brought in total.  

I found this in the older locked thread.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg8799640#msg8799640

So $48,000 = $10,000

Isn't that a crime though?  To have a charity drive and then rip off said charity drive for $38,000?

Lol sure is. Its how GAW conduct business
46  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 07:06:37 PM
How soon do you think Jessica would dump Josh after hes arrested?

I think i want to hire her to do porn4bitcoin. Also telling the nerds while doing about the truth of the scam and her sex life with Josh. This would be a hit
47  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 02:34:51 PM
I feel so sorry for all you posters in here posting every 2 seconds, you guys are so caught up in this shit it's fucking funny as hell

And I'm sorry that you lost money.......Not
48  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 02:14:13 PM
Garza using Stuart Fraser's credit card, twitter, name for propaganda, name for legitimacy, name for withdrawing assets from GAW... All i can say is, does anybody know the current whereabouts of Stuart Fraser, and when was he last seen?

Their relationship doesnt look normal. From the emails, it seems Josh is Stu's secrect lover. No other explaination for why Stu would let Josh balantly robbed him...
49  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 01:43:32 PM
thanks for admitting you have multiple families  Grin maybe do not fuck everything that moves? specially your customers



OK get your point but some sick cunt who obviously lives in his mothers basement and is a pedophile wants to make threats against a 7 year old girl is just fucked in the head.

Even surely this community must be sickened buy that! If not then you are all a bunch of cunts!!!!!!


Got any proof of the threat? Or you're just that dumb?
50  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:40:25 AM
i agree the attitude they give free us from having too much sympathy. they are willing marks. its their money, they can donate it to Mr. Gonzo if they want to.

not everyone is so fking stupid tho, its mostly people who have only invested few grands and hope to spend their tiny xpy on coinstand or some other crap. its not very interesting
i agree the attitude they give free us from having too much sympathy. they are willing marks. its their money, they can donate it to Mr. Gonzo if they want to.

not everyone is so fking stupid tho, its mostly people who have only invested few grands and hope to spend their tiny xpy on coinstand or some other crap. its not very interesting

Few grand each of a hundred is enough to buy a Ferrari....lol

However some of them actually puts tens of thousands into this. Like retard with a Porsche in his profile.... Probably his dream car that he think he can have if this thing "work out".....
51  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:32:42 AM
Garza just confirmed the mails are not fake.

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MrCEO
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MrCEO
 Admin
Moderator
Industry Innovator
@Legionarul said:

While I was buying all those "cheap" & "gift" paycoin, like many of us, Josh was dumping daily. Plenty of other evidences where it is crystal clear that Josh&GAW were dumping XPY, thus tanking the price day by day.
Josh, you are a disgrace for all the people that believed you.
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https://blockchain.info/address/1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm
this is just getting silly. Going through my personal emails? You guys disgust me.

Every waking minute I spend trying to help payoin. This is getting old.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36585/josh-withdrawing-a-total-of-544-6948-btc-after-dumping-on-cryptsy/24



Im so happy they call this FUD. It only  confirm why i have no sympathy whatsoever to these "victims". Calling them victims is an insult to all other crypto scams in history.


They aren't victims. They are perpetuating the scam.

Thats true. The fact that they try to censor any post negative to the scam...means just that.

Do you guys know Herbal Life? Very popular pyramid scheme in Asia. All of the members know its a scam but they still lie and find the next victim ...even among friends and family!...
52  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:24:44 AM
Garza just confirmed the mails are not fake.

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MrCEO
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MrCEO
 Admin
Moderator
Industry Innovator
@Legionarul said:

While I was buying all those "cheap" & "gift" paycoin, like many of us, Josh was dumping daily. Plenty of other evidences where it is crystal clear that Josh&GAW were dumping XPY, thus tanking the price day by day.
Josh, you are a disgrace for all the people that believed you.
3125.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm
this is just getting silly. Going through my personal emails? You guys disgust me.

Every waking minute I spend trying to help payoin. This is getting old.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36585/josh-withdrawing-a-total-of-544-6948-btc-after-dumping-on-cryptsy/24



Im so happy they call this FUD. It only  confirm why i have no sympathy whatsoever to these "victims". Calling them victims is an insult to all other crypto scams in history.
53  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 09:18:13 AM
Definitely a kick in the head to the realities of investing so how much sympathy can you have? It can however be salvaged depending how they do it, it would probably be quite a while before people could make any ROI, if they could make it back.

Salvaged? As what?

Honestly, what do you see this altcoin ever being perceived as anything other than a harsh lesson in what scams to be on the lookout for in crypto?



There is a large community around it and they still have things partially done that can work if redesigned to benefit the holders and not just one or two people. Lots of dumb people but they still have a large amount of funds they could draw from and if you took the bad actors out then they might even see some returns.

The fuck? Have you gone full retard? You cant take thr bad actors out if they already hold millions of  coins. Beside the whole system is flawed its nothing but a pyramid scheme.

"Even make some returns".... Fuck i bet if you found paycoin at launch you would have been one of these gawtards.

I did find PayCoin at launch, I said it wouldn't work.

This site seems to be managed by a try-hard. They are posting lies and then going step by step, supporting them with another lies.
Want a proof?

First sentence from the linked article "PayCoin (XPY) an altcoin backed by GAW miners, which is believed to be a scam," leads to another one: "Currently they are being investigated by the SEC for their questionable business model and their operations." Which is a lie. Somebody (probably the author of this "article") even made a fake screenshot of the site with scheduled GAW investigation, but there's no trace on the real site. http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin.shtml
The question you should ask is why would anyone try to make people think they are being investigated.

People hold grudges, people don't like seeing things succeed that they themselves do not agree with, people believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.

People do what people do...

Give it a year or so and I'm sure you will think differently. It looks like you jumped on the IPO and are defending it because you are worried now that the price has dropped about 50% Typically IPO's with a very large buy-in tend to drop in price within the first month. You need critical analysis in order to make an informed decision otherwise you are trying to base your decision on hype and what the largest holders will tell you, which will always be through rose tinted glasses.
Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 2000000000 * COIN;
static const int STAKE_START_TIME = 1418470264; // Sat 13 Dec 2014 06:31:04 AM EST
static const unsigned int POW_START_TIME = 1418403600; // Fri 12 Dec 2014 12:00:00 PM EST
static const unsigned int POW_END_TIME = 1419181200; // Sun 21 Dec 2014 12:00:00 PM EST

2,000,000,000 total coins with 12,000,000 premine, current total coins 12,375,656. Means 375,656 POW but we have to minus the large POS blocks and early POW blocks (ill get to that).

Now I dont know the specs but I seen 500,000 XPY was the apparent POW supply which was incorrect and deliberately coded incorrectly to allow less POW blocks then indicated. If you were to allow a certain number of blocks you would allocate the POW change to block height, no time. By using Ntime you will usually a) confuse users as you are only estimating and b) always get it wrong. Block times are averages and using time instead of height is a deliberate method to reduce total coins. Now if we look at the stake start times, once again should be based off height not time, POS kicked in the day after launch. This then ensures less POW blocks are generated and more POS blocks, once again reducing total coins allocated to POW as more POW blocks are mined before the POW cut off time. Now even if total coins for the POW stage are not pre-announced, this method is what most devs use to allocate a greater % of total coins vs what they advertise.

Now 375,656 POW coins is fine I guess until we look at the POS blocks generated. So between block 9180 and 9229, 13,000 XPY were generated through POS. Between block 14200 and 14000, another 18,000 XPY were generated. When POW was disabled, we had a total count of 12,343,000 or 343,000 coin POW phase. Since that POW phase has ended a total of 33,800 XPY have been staked with all 32,700 XPY going to POS on premined coins and addresses, with only 900 XPY to the 341,000 POW owners. This is based on the code below and looking through the block explorer.

Stake Min and Max Age
Code:
static const int STAKE_MIN_AGE = 60 * 60; // minimum age for coin age
static const int STAKE_MAX_AGE = 60 * 60 * 24 * 5; // stake age of full weight
Primenode Requirements.
Code:
static const int64 NUMBER_OF_PRIMENODE = 50;
static const int64 MINIMUM_FOR_ORION = 50 * COIN;
static const int64 MINIMUM_FOR_PRIMENODE = 125000 * COIN;
Primenode Rewards.
Code:
if (primeNodeRate == 0)
        nRewardCoinYear = 5 * CENT;
    else if (primeNodeRate == 10)
        nRewardCoinYear = 10 * CENT;
    else if (primeNodeRate == 20)
        nRewardCoinYear = 20 * CENT;
    else if (primeNodeRate == 100)
        nRewardCoinYear = 100 * CENT;
    else if (primeNodeRate == 350)
        nRewardCoinYear = 350 * CENT;

Now using the previous figures, lets take a look at the yearly projection using the base that POS stage is 10 days old.

Primenode yearly POS XPY count 32,700 XPY * 36.5= 1,193,500 XPY (Total (BTC)51797.88806500)

POW nodes yearly POS XPY count 900 * 36.5= 32,850 XPY. (Total (BTC)1425.68967150)


As long as these match up to the projections and pre announcements, who cares I guess. These numbers are not 100% accurate, check the block explorer for an exact amounts.




Wow!

Talk about Ponzi!

With 5 days maximum age that means it limits all the smaller Blocks. The Coins from the premine will always push out the small players as those Coins that DO stake, compound with interest.

To limit the smaller Blocks can be good for the Coin, but you need a balance where the average person CAN stake their Coins.

This means that GAW has a nearly unlimited supply of Coins they can dump on the market.





So then dont lose your way and dont waste your time or have your name tainted even trying to contribute to the community. You know how this will end. The leaked emails are nails to its coffin. Evidence is too strong and media will blast the news every where.
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why One Bitcoin Core Developer Thinks Cryptocurrencies Have A Dreadful Future on: April 16, 2015, 09:07:57 AM
i don't see any other reason for his negativity other than buy cheap coins, a core dev should encourage the adoption(not but telling the false of course, we all know that bitcoin is in a despair phase) but a dev, should talking about addressing bug/problem related to btc, instead of "fudderising" it
He isn't your employee. He is writing new code for bitcoin for free, so he didn't take any obligations to us. Why do you think that you can speculate about btc future and he shouldn't?


Speculation is fine but dont FUD. The fact that he is core developer means he should have passion in his work..... Sounds like he is into cryptocurrency because it is a "trend" "big thing" so he can be known on interweb. Otherwise he is  just a programmer among millions.

He is ready to be hired for working on a new coin. Atleast go with dignity and keep your speculation to yourself.
55  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 16, 2015, 08:49:54 AM
Definitely a kick in the head to the realities of investing so how much sympathy can you have? It can however be salvaged depending how they do it, it would probably be quite a while before people could make any ROI, if they could make it back.

Salvaged? As what?

Honestly, what do you see this altcoin ever being perceived as anything other than a harsh lesson in what scams to be on the lookout for in crypto?



There is a large community around it and they still have things partially done that can work if redesigned to benefit the holders and not just one or two people. Lots of dumb people but they still have a large amount of funds they could draw from and if you took the bad actors out then they might even see some returns.

The fuck? Have you gone full retard? You cant take thr bad actors out if they already hold millions of  coins. Beside the whole system is flawed its nothing but a pyramid scheme.

"Even make some returns".... Fuck i bet if you found paycoin at launch you would have been one of these gawtards.
56  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 14, 2015, 06:09:19 AM
what the hell. This badbitcoin guy lost it / is in full denial. how do you trust a scam buster who's promoting scams? unbelievable...

Yes, if you read his statement about Gaw on the badbitcoin website, it is laughable.   Stating he does not believe Garza intentionally scammed or defrauded anyone is a huge lie.


This shows one thing : peoples integrity can be bought for cheap. The dipshit can literally eat dog shit while smiling and say its the best food hes ever eaten .... If you pay him a few coins.
57  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 14, 2015, 01:21:17 AM
After all these years reading this forum, this has got to be the most entertaining story in the crypto world ever. It is almost like a crypto novella, just without the hot Spanish women. The delusional posts on hashtalk.org are so entertaining, these people are on the level of Jim Jones no doubt. I find it so fascinating how these subjects continue to this day OFFER homero more money, he doesn't even ask for it! Can someone please explain the science behind this phenomenon?

Science ? No need.

Its all about greed.

Forget about econony, math and basic common sense, if they're promised to be rich, they will do anything. Its good that they only loose money. Given opportunity to do worse things, im sure they wouldnt hesitate
58  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 14, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
On the side note, is the girl and dildo pic real? I mean is it real Jessica?

Definitely her in this pic for sure. I must warn that this pic of Jessica and a big dildo is WAY NSFW. You are warned.


Lol i dont see a dildo. But a retard or something
59  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 14, 2015, 12:19:02 AM
On the side note, is the girl and dildo pic real? I mean is it real Jessica?
60  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: April 14, 2015, 12:01:37 AM
The fuck man? Nasty pics.... Dont do that again

Hey Allcock/Newbie - You don't get the joke, so just let Paul be Paul, and go get a sense of humor or two on the way back. Wink

Why do i have to get the joke to Not seeing nasty pics. Fucking my eyes isnt a joke. God....
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