They were meant to be having a tour with a bitcoin media outlet-anybody followed up with this?

How many bitcoin mags are there in the US?-which ones are based closest to multiverse's location?

Has any publications said anything about multiverse? Has anybody asked?

Are they going to invent their own tour group?

where did you find the pictures? URL? If more info doesn't come out it will quickly get labelled as another scam.

If they put two chips on a USB3 stick and we could add a cooler that could be interesting. BFL limits the jalapeno to 4.7ghs because of power requirements. But then I'm guessing if they only clock these at 2.5ghs they might be at 90Nm and hence use more watts per hash.

Still if they sold that for <$50 I might be interested. Plug them straight into the side of a powered USB3 hub.

try doing a search for the forum. You'll find the last few years are flooded with info on FPGAs. They are now last generation tech with ASICs entering the market

BFL, Avalon, and Tom were all bitcoin hardware providers prior to launching ASIC programs. It makes sense that when the market leaped ahead in tech one by one they would also announce they were taking the leap. Because they were known to be legit bitcoiners people trusted them.
OK Tom took the leap but didn't know how to either execute and failed to nail the landing. That is just a failed business venture he wasn't trying to steal. While I can understand people frustration it seems he is trying his best to pay people back. He should not be called a scammer.
BFL are also not scamming people because they have full intention of delivering. However they will definitely have the label of unreliable given they are what 6 months late now?
Avalon-well of the three have done 90% of what they said they would. I don't believe they ships any more than the first 2 or 3 before CNY, and the rest left afterwards.


The issue with these new "players" is
-no history of doing business in the bit coin world
-very little proof
-very little back ground info on the product (I've provided more details on "my" asics than they have)
-ASICs are not cheap to develop and don't just grow on trees

Until somebody we know and trust gives a review and can show pictures/videos non of these new players should be taken seriously

Not taking local pickup any more?? WTF?? Local pickup is easier to do than shipping.

PRE-SALE SCAM UPDATE

I have had an over whelming response to my call for deposits to convince the bank to fund me for my proposed 8x 32ghs chip bit mining boards boards. So far I have received deposits from 75 excited suckers customers and only need another 25 to commit before I close this off and get on with my holiday in the Bahamas securing funding from the bank and starting to create masks etc.
Remember I am only asking for a 10% deposit now and the balance once the test wafer and sample boards have been produced.

I have been working with the PCB supplier discussing some of the ideas from customers for the mondo miner and mini mondo miner.
The mini mondo miner will have 32x32Ghs chips=1Ths, and the mondo miner twice that at 64x32Ghs=2Ths in groups of 4 for easy fitment of off the shelf coolers. They will also have full Intel I3 socket support with north and south bridges. This means each board can be user built up with coolers of your choice, ivy bridge processor of your choice (on board graphics enabled), hard drive/SSD of choice, SATA ports and plenty of USB ports. Each board is therefore completely stand alone, with OS of your choice, and will be able to act as host to other external miners.

So please I need another 25 suckers customers to throw money away deposit in my scam project so I can deliver the most non-exsistent awesome products in your dreams the next few months

Please give me your bitcoins
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SCAM PRE SALE UPDATE
I have been flooded by inquiries about the mondo miner. The feed back is that 16 boards would push the price above that of a mini rig, and most want something with less investment.
So instead I will do a mini mondo miner first which will have 4 boards and a cheaper water cooling system. Units will mounted to each other with standoffs and a radiator which would be easy to bolt into a rack case, or stack-able as a desktop/shelf top system. Projected price with water cooling but no PSU (to allow you to cater for your own expansion needs) will be under ~$12,000AUD and with the top shelf cooling clocked well over 1Ths. Power usage including cooling should be around 300w.
Hang on? Half the power of an Avalon producing over 1Ths? Is this too good to be true? Yes for a while anyway....28Nm ASICs are coming in the second half of the year but got nothing to do with me (other than buying some!)

DEPOSITS TIPS
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Who said anything about being Australian? I'm a totally trustworthy Kiwi!!

BTW I'm leaving Australia in a few weeks to go to Shanghai (true story)
to make it easier to supervise the completion of this ASIC project (not true story)

tips are non refundable - thankyou 

Told you that customers would want to to be scammed for many boards each- I mean order many boards each. CHaan Noi would you like to beta test the mondo miner which has 16 of these boards in a rack mount or desk mount case? It will have a 1500w platinum PSU and integrated water cooling. I don't want to announce final specs until fully tested

Wow this scamming thing is easy! That didn't take long to write but I included more fake details than anybody else!

I forgot to include fear as well as greed in my pitch- if you aren't one of the 100 customers to place deposits then you may not be in the first production batch of boards since many customers will want many many boards at once

NOTE THE ABOVE IS FAKE I HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT BE SELLING ASICS

but feel free to tip me at
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I have news for everybody-

While I have been watching and commenting on these new "releases" from other "vendors" my contractors have finished the design and simulation on a 28Nm ASIC chip!

Since the chip is half the size of a BFL chip we were able to have 64 hashing cores not 16 (4x a BFL) but the chip is the same size and should have approx the same energy consumption of 8w for 500mHz once mounted to a board with fairly standard cooling. We haven't taken any short cuts and everything about this design is top end for speed, stability, and cooling.

Yes that is right - 64 hashs x 500mhz = 32ghs per chip!

I have funded all this development myself

The PCB design will have 8 chips for a total of 256ghs at around 64w!!! That is just simulation and will depend on cooling etc

On that front to cut costs the board will actually be 2 block of 4 chips, spaced so you can use standard CPU coolers. But I will not be providing these coolers. This allows you to choose your preferred cooling method- cheap coolers, high end full contact heat pipes- or even off the shelf water cooling systems!!
I also won't be suppling some crappy PSU- you can source one to your taste. I recommend getting adapter cables which would have one power jack off the 12v line of a 4 pin molex, or 2 coming off a 6pin PCI-E plug, or 3 off an 8 pin. This would allow you to use efficient power off your host computers PCU

That means that 256Ghs at $2950AUD. That is 2.25 times the price of a BFL single but giving you 4x the performance, and nothing wasted you didn't want as you can do your own modding. The heat sinks can be as little as $40 each and you already have the PSU.

Now my issue is I have funded all the design work on the chips and boards to here, but I need to secure bank funding to develop masks and do test wafers (the test wafer will only be used for test boards which will be kept in house for testing-and sent out for independent verification)
The bank doesn't really understand bitcoin or ASICs or the fact that this product will have HUGE demand. They will not approve the loan until I have at least 100 different customers prove they want to buy at least one board each.
So I am asking for deposits of 10% which is $300 in bitcoins to convince the bank to allow continued progress.

Sorry no images at this point because we have only just finished the chip design and simulation, and I can't confirm shipping dates. All the chip manufacture will be done by one company, and handed locally to the PCB maker and assembler-so little delay once testing is complete

To confirm your deposit please send $300AUD worth of bitcoins to:
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just include your email address and name to secure your place. I will confirm final dates and shipping options when boards are ready. Shipping will be directly out of Taiwan even though I am based in Australia.

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who said they won't? They could easily be one of the two experienced integrators that might be picking up the 28Nm ASIC being made in europe

Has anybody called the police??? Fraud is a crime. If these people are found to be trying to con others out of thousands of euro surely the fraud squad would be interested.

nice macro

really needs to be a respectable 3rd party. Send one to bit coin foundation etc. Avalon hand delivered theirs for testing and videos

If you have the money to develop something like this for real, you must be able to do better

*IF* anything gets sent - make an opening video at the post office or in front of the delivery man!!!
Paypal can be a bit dense at times-if they provide a tracking number which states they sent and delivered something the right size.....

send them here
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it has vents on the face of the case remove (according to the other half of the photo). Sure doe look like 4 boards out of an Avalon. Any body contacted them to see if they have business dealing with these guys? They could have just bought a couple of Avalons then butchered them to make this one model. But Avalon boards have the fins running length wise along the boards because they have the boars laying down with fans at each end don't the?

For race mounting you could way lay the case on its side with exhaust at the top. Front to rear like an Avalon is better in that way because you aren't blowing hot air onto the intake of the one above etc.

Assuming you ever get the first one to then worry about what will happen if you got a second one....

or just click on the ebay link the OP provided....

its not an Avalon- it isn't stand alone- so they say.

Clearly not read any of this thread or they would be doing more to salvage their name than posting some pictures of a box with fans....

Has anybody contacted the Hungarian police to confirm this isn't a scam. Fraud is illegal there right?

Speculation- (I've had no information about this, just guessing)

The Mammoth Miner 280k will be a board running 64 chips producing 4.4ghs with small heat sinks and maybe fans. COuld be one big heat sink like Avalong with cross flow (but then the chips on one end will be warmer than the other end)
Would probably only need 300w to run and give a total of >280ghs
Pricing would hopefully be closer to $4500 than $5000 for a full system
Available as a naked board with no case/psu (cheaper) or mounted into a desk or rack mount case. Actually would be cool if it were a board with 1 large heat sink etc-wouldn't look as clunky as all those naked FPGAs! You could stack them with stand offs and just point a desk fan at them!!
would not be stand alone
power would come off 2-3 PCI-e 6 pins