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41  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: exchanging Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - lowered price on: June 10, 2013, 01:34:24 AM
bump
42  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: exchanging Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - lowered price on: June 06, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
bump
43  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: exchanging Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - lowered price on: June 06, 2013, 01:08:02 AM
lowered price. updated OP. bump
44  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 27 Direct ASICMINER Shares. No Minimums! on: June 05, 2013, 11:45:31 PM
Payment provided for 25 shares @ 2.61 plus a 0.50 btc fee.  Awaiting acknowledgment and further instructions.
45  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: swapping 3 Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - details inside on: June 05, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
bump. any interest?
46  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: swapping 3 Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - details inside on: June 05, 2013, 03:36:19 AM
Estimated combined return from the 3 units.

Okay so,  500 * 2.45 = 1,225 BTC - ((400+500)/2) = 775 BTC.  So, if you find an AM shareholder willing to take a 775 BTC hit on the current market value of the shares they hold let me know because I too would like to buy some from them.

I lowered it to 450, and i'm lowering it even more for people genuinely interested. If you are such, please PM. this is a serious offer.

Cheers.

 
47  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
Quote from: delaria link=topic=99497.msg2374198#msg2374198
I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
Quote from: delaria link=topic=99497.msg2374632#msg2374632
Market value maybe around 250 btc / unit right now, but on eBay they are going for much more. I'll have to resort to ebay that shitty site if no one takes the offer.  

I don't think this is the right place to discuss such deals.

But just let me point out why nobody is interested in your offer:
Market price of 3xAvalons: Approx. 750 BTC
Market price of 500 ASICMINER shares: Approx. 1200 BTC

Yeah and i apologize for going off topic i've just thought this thread would be the best place to gather interest. The point is that it may not be easy to obtain Avalon devices right now. Andy many others i made in my previous posts. But i think it's time to cut off this discussion here. PM me if you are interested in further discussion.

Cheers
48  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: swapping 3 Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT full shares - details inside on: June 05, 2013, 03:13:12 AM
Is your estimated  400/500 BTC the combined return on the 3 Avalon units, or your estimate per unit?

Estimated combined return from the 3 units.
49  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 03:10:06 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

I really do hope you find someone to trade for yor devices and soon. Peopl are staring to realize just part of the potential of AM shares. Because if you're buying into AM shares, you're buying a percentage of all mined AM blocks for the next couple years.

I am very biased towards AM right now because hardware right now seem like mining bonds (diminishing returns), whereas ASICMiner is a sustained, scaling source of income (barring Armageddon/govt intervention). The only way Avalon/BFL could match is to send a module every couple of months to upgrade your hardware. (flawed analogy but you get the idea). Plus you get a cut of profit from hardware sales, pretty sure Avalon/BFL isn't doing that.

Thank you, but don't forget that the AM share price can go down as well, and there are a ton of other risks to consider, primarily rampant competition ( in the medium/long term i believe serious ASIC operations will see the light ), plus you can invest (wisely) the proceeds of mining into buying new hardware, possibly bulk Avalon chips, and get them mounted, thus keeping up with the difficulty increase.

All valid points also but I guess I'm willing to take my chances with friedcat.

See my edit above, are you a large shareholder ? if that's the case, consider the possibility of hedging your risk.

Actually, minor shareholder (less than 300) here.

Still cool, i would be up also for a partial swap, not the three whole units, maybe only 1 ? are you interested ?

Excuse me I can swap 50 shares for one black avalon, thats my final offer.

Sorry, that's absolutely out of tune. My last offer for un unit is 150, both direct or BTC-TO full shares.

Thank you anyway

EDIT Sorry for going off topic.
50  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 03:03:58 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

I really do hope you find someone to trade for yor devices and soon. Peopl are staring to realize just part of the potential of AM shares. Because if you're buying into AM shares, you're buying a percentage of all mined AM blocks for the next couple years.

I am very biased towards AM right now because hardware right now seem like mining bonds (diminishing returns), whereas ASICMiner is a sustained, scaling source of income (barring Armageddon/govt intervention). The only way Avalon/BFL could match is to send a module every couple of months to upgrade your hardware. (flawed analogy but you get the idea). Plus you get a cut of profit from hardware sales, pretty sure Avalon/BFL isn't doing that.

Thank you, but don't forget that the AM share price can go down as well, and there are a ton of other risks to consider, primarily rampant competition ( in the medium/long term i believe serious ASIC operations will see the light ), plus you can invest (wisely) the proceeds of mining into buying new hardware, possibly bulk Avalon chips, and get them mounted, thus keeping up with the difficulty increase.

All valid points also but I guess I'm willing to take my chances with friedcat.

See my edit above, are you a large shareholder ? if that's the case, consider the possibility of hedging your risk.

Actually, minor shareholder (less than 300) here.

Still cool, i would be up also for a partial swap, not the three whole units, maybe only 1 ? are you interested ?
51  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 27 Direct ASICMINER Shares. No Minimums! on: June 05, 2013, 03:01:40 AM
25 @ 2.61

Please ignore my previous bid, i can't remove it
52  Economy / Auctions / Re: [AUCTION] 27 Direct ASICMINER Shares. No Minimums! on: June 05, 2013, 03:00:09 AM
10 @ 2.55
53  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 02:52:22 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

I really do hope you find someone to trade for yor devices and soon. Peopl are staring to realize just part of the potential of AM shares. Because if you're buying into AM shares, you're buying a percentage of all mined AM blocks for the next couple years.

I am very biased towards AM right now because hardware right now seem like mining bonds (diminishing returns), whereas ASICMiner is a sustained, scaling source of income (barring Armageddon/govt intervention). The only way Avalon/BFL could match is to send a module every couple of months to upgrade your hardware. (flawed analogy but you get the idea). Plus you get a cut of profit from hardware sales, pretty sure Avalon/BFL isn't doing that.

Thank you, but don't forget that the AM share price can go down as well, and there are a ton of other risks to consider, primarily rampant competition ( in the medium/long term i believe serious ASIC operations will see the light ), plus you can invest (wisely) the proceeds of mining into buying new hardware, possibly bulk Avalon chips, and get them mounted, thus keeping up with the difficulty increase.

All valid points also but I guess I'm willing to take my chances with friedcat.

See my edit above, are you a large shareholder ? if that's the case, consider the possibility of hedging your risk.

EDIT : i'm willing to lower the price to 450 shares.
54  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 02:47:19 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

I really do hope you find someone to trade for yor devices and soon. Peopl are staring to realize just part of the potential of AM shares. Because if you're buying into AM shares, you're buying a percentage of all mined AM blocks for the next couple years.

I am very biased towards AM right now because hardware right now seem like mining bonds (diminishing returns), whereas ASICMiner is a sustained, scaling source of income (barring Armageddon/govt intervention). The only way Avalon/BFL could match is to send a module every couple of months to upgrade your hardware. (flawed analogy but you get the idea). Plus you get a cut of profit from hardware sales, pretty sure Avalon/BFL isn't doing that.

Thank you, but don't forget that the AM share price can go down as well, and there are a ton of other risks to consider, primarily rampant competition ( in the long term i believe serious ASIC operations will see the light ), plus you can invest (wisely) the proceeds of mining into buying new hardware, possibly bulk Avalon chips, and get them mounted, thus keeping up with the difficulty increase in the medium term.

EDIT For someone who already has got a bunch of shares purchased at lower price it might be a very good way to hedge
55  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 02:28:21 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

What's the market value of the three units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2)?

Market value maybe around 250 btc / unit right now, but on eBay they are going for much more. I'll have to resort to ebay that shitty site if no one takes the offer.  
56  Bitcoin / Hardware / exchanging Avalon units with ASICMINER-PT or full shares - lowered prices on: June 05, 2013, 01:59:23 AM
I am exchaning 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 300 ASICMINER-PT or full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 170 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 6.77 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or for escrow with a hero member of your choice, preferably John.K.


EDIT  : Lowered to 90 ASICMINER shares  direct or PT on btct.co for 1 unit. PM me if you are interested

Cheers
Delaria
57  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 05, 2013, 01:13:38 AM
Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Edit : offer reduced to 450 shares

Cheers
Delaria
58  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 01, 2013, 11:47:18 PM
I'm looking to swap Avalon hardware (at least 2 units) for AM shares, direct or PT, any big holder interested? offers?

P.S. I have the hardware in hands so pickup in Europe is possible

Where in europe? And how many shares are you asking for? Smiley

We can meet anywhere in Europe, i am willing to move. For 3 units i'm looking for 1000 shares.

You need to evaluate better your offer.. in hand Avalon sells for 220BTC.. why anyone should give you 2500 BTC of shares?

Can you point out to someone selling an avalon for 220 btc right now that isn't totally a sham or the likes ?
Also, the share price can fluctuate, tomorrow 2500 btc could be 2000, or 1000.

Well by your logic Iam gonna take your offer for 7 shares because tomorrow the price can be at 5000 could be 10000 or six jillions

well, this is also correct, i guess nobody will take up on the offer.
59  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 01, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
I'm looking to swap Avalon hardware (at least 2 units) for AM shares, direct or PT, any big holder interested? offers?

P.S. I have the hardware in hands so pickup in Europe is possible

Where in europe? And how many shares are you asking for? Smiley

We can meet anywhere in Europe, i am willing to move. For 3 units i'm looking for 1000 shares.

You need to evaluate better your offer.. in hand Avalon sells for 220BTC.. why anyone should give you 2500 BTC of shares?

Can you point out to someone selling an avalon for 220 btc right now that isn't totally a sham or the likes ?
Also, the share price can fluctuate, tomorrow 2500 btc could be 2000, or 1000.
60  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: June 01, 2013, 09:12:42 PM
I'm looking to swap Avalon hardware (at least 2 units) for AM shares, direct or PT, any big holder interested? offers?

P.S. I have the hardware in hands so pickup in Europe is possible

Where in europe? And how many shares are you asking for? Smiley

We can meet anywhere in Europe, i am willing to move. For 3 units i'm looking for 1000 shares.
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